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This is the thread for /r/eligous debate and questions. Anything goes.
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>>22
Interesting, love to hear more on this.

>>59
First, total circumcision is Talmudic. Partial varies. and in the old days, see picrel.

After Christ, circumcision was deemed obsolete. See: 
>Circumcision
Fulfilled in Baptism. Was argued about and ultimately rejected. Why do you keep bringing up men's dicks?

Israelite became Christians. Edomites, Jews. These 'Jews' would go on to live in Greece, Rome, and Babylon. Rabbis realized that young Jewish men would start to grow back their foreskin with leather straps and weights, and were able to do so because not enough skin was removed. Therefore rabbis in Babylon in 200 AD updated the Talmud and mandated that circumcision must include every square milimeter of slack skin on a baby's penis. It had further instructions on how to apply suction with a mouthful of wine.

Frankly, the circumcision of those times is nothing compared to now. Furthermore circumcision was universally rejected by Christians before even the 1st century was over. The horse is so dead even Frankenstein couldn't revive it.
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>>20276

too the Jews the edomites are the descendants of Rome the Europeans. I personally don't give a shit about whether small minority of Chrisitans think the edomites are the Jews its all abrahamic pipul to me but this video is them calling Europeans Amalack or Edom ...I find it it interesting that a Chrtianity minority calls them edomites.  

Whos edomiting who ? 


Rabbies calling europe and America Edom and Amalack

https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/Edom-Finished:d?r=6ZXzqhsvUWSucpVyZLk75A9R9rqiqPMy&lid=1931bc35a8ba61e510293cce975f9e880e3dc442
>>1361
>I can never be a christian because that would require me to recognize converted jews as my brothers, which I will never do.

I don't think such a thing is even possible.  There were two kinds of, "jews" around in Christ's time.  Actual genetic descendants of Abraham.  And jews who say they are jews but are not.  Children of their father the devil, who do their father's work.  Jesus was not speaking in a figurative sense there.  He meant that literally.  

In his parable of the Sower, Jesus talks about a farmer who spreads seed in a field.  The seed came up and the wheat started to grow.  But soon after weeds came up amongst the wheat.  The farm workers went to the farmer and told him the seed he gave them to plant must have been crap and all full of weed seeds.  The farmer said no.  The seed was good.  An evil one came into his field later and spread the weed seeds around.  The wheat was God's people, the weeds were the devil's literal genetic descendants.  The farmer said at harvest time, the workers were to gather the wheat and take it into his barn.   the weeds they were to gather and burn.  He didn't tell the farm workers to go out and talk to the weeds and ask them to act less weedy.  Burn them, and that's it.  

The way Jesus tended to deal with them mirrors that.  With wayward actual jews, he was quite nice and patient.  he gave them advice, he told them what to do to get in God's good graces again.  Wished them well, encouraged them to be good.  But with the fake jews, he was nothing but stern with them.   he berated them, mocked them, told them to piss off and leave him alone.   He was not trying to convince them of anything.  He'd say things like, you are of your father the devil and you will do his work.  He was not telling them to try not to be less devilish.  He probably knew it was useless to even try.  That's why he didn't.   They're children of Satan, their minds and hearts can't be changed, any more than their DNA can be changed.  

It may be possible that in extremely rare cases, the odd one could come around and see the light.  God's children betray him  every day.  I don't see why a child of the devil couldn't flip his father off with both fingers either.  In which case, I'm fine with that.  I'm never going to trust that jew, but if he found a way out, good for him.  You're not going to have to worry about being surrounded by jews in the next life.  There won't be any there.
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>>1579
>The wheat was God's people, the weeds were the devil's literal genetic descendants.
And who is the devil? Or these descendants?
Neandethals? Some other hominids or sub-humans?
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Which of you baked this thread?
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/505186416#p505197817

>>1664
Nephillium, etc.
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>>1671
>Which of you baked this thread?
idgaf, screw me off from 4chan i visit it maybe once a week and for like couple of minutes, cant stand it anymore.
>>1664
Children of Enlil/Yahweh. Children of Enki are fine though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipuwer_Papyrus
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505722233/#505738504

Note. Useful as a collection of standard anti-deos arguments, refutaions, and implications to study. Also, glowshillery.
>>2261
Mods.
There are probably more sage posted.
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>>2264
Done!
>>1664
>And who is the devil? Or these descendants?
Satan. His children are jews(edomites/kenite/canaanite/serpent's seed who made up the term 'jew' to larp as Judahites under a carefully crafted misnomer for Judean) 

Read John Chapter 8. They were eventually granted status as Pharisees... long before that, they had been our Kenite scribes.
What is the most moral religion and why is it judaism? They really know how to stand for their own people.
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>>1373 (OP) 
Explain yourselves.
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>>66
>First, total circumcision is Talmudic. Partial varies. and in the old days, see picrel.
Have a look at your bible. According to the myth of moshe, his negress wife zipporah cuts off enough of the genitalia with a rock to be able to throw the flesh at moshe's feet.
But arguing about what exact amount of genital mutilation is acceptable to perform on your own son seems like arguing about how old your pre-pubescent son should be before it's okay to diddle him.
>circumcision was universally rejected by Christians before even the 1st century was over. 
In case you're not aware, the main author of your bible, the genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel jew from Turkey (Saul of Tarsus), genitally mutilates one of the adult apostles (the mischling Timotheos) to have him better fit in with a bunch of (presumably also genitally mutilated) jews. So the founding father of christianity is clearly not against the genital mutilation of people with at least partial jewish blood.
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forgot pics like a tard, so here's an effortpost
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>>2354
What do you want to know Danish bro? I made that banner because i liked the original picture of swastika and a cross a lot together, it perfectly connects Indo-European past with the influence it had on the world and the Christianity that arose later and led European men to explore the world and invent things even more, you know the philosophy to explore and know God`s creation.
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>>2361
>What do you want to know Danish bro?
Read the second picrel.
>christianity led European men to explore the world
Anon, I...
Whatever, one thing at a time.
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>>2362
>Read the second picrel.
I would if i knew how to read german, but its something about how Hitler wasnt fond of Christianity right?

>Anon, I...Whatever, one thing at a time.
Didnt it? It certainly did not changed the spirit of the Aryan man. It was heavily based upon Roman and Hellenic culture then Judaic as time went on and Jews arent homogenous people, so at the time of Jesus they werent Jews in modern sense. Both genetically and ethnically.
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>>2362
Interesting, and a dumb move honestly. Alienates a lot of people, you cant just remove a cornerstone of a nation and people like that.
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>>2363
>Hitler wasnt fond of Christianity
Correct. It seems pretty subversive to defy his explicit orders. The NSDAP sent priests to camps, called christianity a calamity, called Saul a subversive jew and was opposed constantly by christian organisation of all denominations for being obviously "pagan". Many, if not most, of the assassination attempts against him were by christian conservatives.
I would suggest you do not try to serve two masters. That's the one thing Hitler and the messiah of yahweh definitely agree upon.
>Didnt it? 
Not even slightly, unless you would also argue that it was marxism that put the first man in space, rather than Aryan genius. But I'm not going to get into all of that, it's off topic to my point.
>>2364
>Alienates a lot of people
Diversity is not our strength. Alienating that which is foreign is inherent to the NatSoc worldview.
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>>2368
>Not even slightly, unless you would also argue that it was marxism that put the first man in space, rather than Aryan genius. 
It did (the Aryan genius), thats what i said. Religion being downstream from race is obvious that for an example Islam under white people is not the same Islam under Arabs, take a look at Bosnia, they are barely muslim, its just a facade and mask they wear in time of needs, majority of Bosniak youth are overwelmingly atheist/agnostic.

>Diversity is not our strength. Alienating that which is foreign is inherent to the NatSoc worldview.
Dont spin it here now will ya? Diversity of European peoples is not diversity of Globohomo. 

There must be principles that unite as all and they are quite simple, if you cant adhere to these principles you are not White.

>High-trust
>Clean
>Orderly
>Respectful of boundaries

Your phenotype and background plays an important role in this and will show how much you adhere to them.
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>>2373
>It did
Thus, your previous argument is bunk. Europeans explored and invented because they were European, not because they were temporarily christian. Russians went to space because they were Russian, nto because they were temporarily marxist.

>Diversity of European peoples
Jews aren't even remotely European. They're semites, which are part of the Afro-Asiatic family.
You really shouldn't even consider touching the swastika if you're this fresh faced, anon.
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>>2373
PS.
>if you don't live up to my expectations, you're no longer a member of the race
That's not how race works. A bear that decides to live off of eucalyptus is still a bear. You confuse ideological requirements, social pressures and biological realities, which is somewhat understandable given the interplay between them.
There are lots of good books on race to recommend. I think I'll make a post with a list one of these days.
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>>2380
>one of these days
That day was today. Have a look at some of the texts on race listed here: >>2383  Then have a look at some of the texts on faith too, and you'll understand why the theological claims of some Levantine jews are completely incompatible with the Aryan worldview.
>"Für oder gegen"
>"No one can serve two masters."
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>>2377
>Jews aren't even remotely European.
What a strawman, i wasnt even mentioning Askhenazi or Sefardi and you thought of them as part of European family by this logic. So bunch of Chinese come and live in Europe and you will proclaim them European? Honorary Aryan is not a malicious term to use for some like Japs and other Far East Asians.

Also the video is funny because it turns out 1000 years was dedicated to crafting glorious and perfect art for Biblical figures who are supposedly immoral and should be wiped away from European memory. All the great work great men of Europe did in past century is practically shat on because to which they have dedicated it to. Also Levant was much different back in the day and you do know that Indo-European conquests stepped foot in the Middle East aswell. Jesus was not a Jew in the modern sense, heck not even genetically. He was very likely of Greek or Pontic descent or something. I might be pulling it out of my ass, but i swear i read it somewhere.
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>>2384
Wait, i will start over my argument.

How do you mean to overwrite entire history of Europe which was essentially built on the Biblical+Greco-Roman mythology in the past 1000 years? Thats like me advocating for Central Asians, Caucasians and Irani to stop being Muslim because thats not theirs because Arab brought it to them, so they should be Zoroastrian and Tengri again.
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>>2388 (checked)
>What a strawman
>you thought of them as part of European family
I think there is a miscommunication here, perhaps on my part. Let me explain my position clearly: the worship of yahweh under any form (including christianity) is foreign to Europe, both in the sense of the area and the people it comes from. One cannot "alienate" that which is foreign: "alienation" means to "make foreign", and "foreign" means "alien". If people have adopted alien ideologies, I may upset them by wanting to eject the alien, but I simply cannot alienate their alien ideology.
BUT, if you meant that I might upset some people who have a foreign ideology by advocating for the disentanglement of their foreign ideology with my people, then yes, certainly.
> funny because it turns out 1000 years was dedicated to crafting glorious and perfect art for Biblical figures
The word you're looking for is "tragic", not "funny".
>All the great work great men of Europe did in past century is practically shat on because to which they have dedicated it to
Nonsense. Yuri Gargarin is still an impressive and brave man whose actions are worthy of admiration despite whatever worldview he may or may not have believed in (officially at least). I respect the achievements of many great men whose official ideologies I wouldn't want anywhere near my family.
>Indo-European conquests stepped foot in the Middle East aswell. 
Irrelevant. Jews are Semites, which belong to the Afro-Asiatic family, which is completely distinct from any European and/or Indo-European family, both linguistically, culturally, geographically and most importantly: ethnically. The fact that some jews were more or less Hellenized (ie. conquered by Greeks and therefore able to speak Greek) doesn't make them any less ethnically jewish. French-speaking Africans are no less ethnically African for it. Neither of us is English or American despite using their tongue.
>Jesus was not a Jew 
>He was very likely of Greek or Pontic descent or something.
He's a midrashic character, but the character is undeniably jewish. He's explicitly from the tribe of judah, which is what defines the jewish identity. The otherwordly being for which he is the messiah is yahweh, the tribal deity of the jews. The prophecies he fulfills are from the tanakh (ie. the jewish religion). He is genitally mutilated at the exact age jews are (the 8th day), teaches the tanakh (ie. jewish religion) in synagogues (ie. jewish temples) and is rejected by his own people (jews). The main guy who tells you about him is a genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel jew from modern Turkey (picrels), and all of the apostles we know anything about are ethnically jewish (with Timotheos being only half jewish). The early christians were ethnic jews. The Greeks and Romans did not even differentiate between christian jews and non-christian jews until several centuries into the split, when christian jews went to court to argue that the legal rights that jews had been given should apply to them (ie. legally reinforcing that they were, in fact, jews) and be withdrawn from non-christian jews (ie. arguing that non-christian jews shouldn't be considered jewish anymore).
>in the modern sense
This is irrelevant and counterproductive to your point: modern jews are on average much CLOSER to being Europeans now than they were back then, since Ashkenazim and Sephardim have interbred massively with us over the past two thousand years of living among us, leaving only the Mizrahim mostly fully jewish. The average jew during the period of the Jewish Wars (ie. around the time of Saul) would have been what we now call a Mizrahim.
>advocating for Central Asians, Caucasians and Irani to stop being Muslim because thats not theirs because Arab brought it to them, so they should be Zoroastrian and Tengri again.
That would be beneficial for them and for any goy who has to interact with them, yes. It also would mean that they'd start worshipping God again, instead of the tribal deity of the jews (yahweh).
>I might be pulling it out of my ass
Well on this we agree.
>How do you mean to overwrite
Complete strawman. I've never said anything of the sort. This conversation is me arguing that you shouldn't mix the laundry, which both Adolf Hitler and the apostles agree on. So, I'll say it again: you should not pretend to serve two masters when both of those masters say that it is impossible to do so. Pick whichever one your soul favors: your people, or the tribal god of the jews.

PS. Since you're a Serb, I'm guessing that you're an orthodox christian. In case you don't know, most of the day to day practices of your religion have nothing to do with the bible, and are remains of your ancestral (ie. goyim and pagan) traditions. Check out the work of Stefan Cvetkovic for examples: https://linktr.ee/stefcvetkovic
The same goes for the "Roman" catholics, but we protestant peoples have discarded our own traditions and actually taken the bible more seriously (Americans being the purest example). That's why most of us are either atheist nihilists now, or hardcore zionist christians.
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>>2389
>BUT, if you meant that I might upset some people who have a foreign ideology by advocating for the disentanglement of their foreign ideology with my people, then yes, certainly.
>PS. Since you're a Serb, I'm guessing that you're an orthodox christian. In case you don't know, most of the day to day practices of your religion have nothing to do with the bible, and are remains of your ancestral (ie. goyim and pagan) traditions.
This is exactly where we might split, to me and rest of Southern Europeans Christianity is much closer than Nordic paganism is and we directly influenced its evolution in the early days, so no, it wasnt just the Jews who participated, thats why i brought up the point that Greeks and Romans played an important role in forming what it Christianity.

>Complete strawman. I've never said anything of the sort.
You didnt directly, but your attitude strongly implies something that could only work to an certain extent in Northern Europe and even there you would find opposition whether Christian or secular, despite the number of Nordic pagans over there.

Im far from a fully practicing Orthodox Christian, but i cant just disregard the huge impact it had on history of Europe and my nation, however i am in strong favor of more councils and conversations because every idea and concept needs constant human engagement and cultivation to reach its potential otherwise you are letting something to rot.

>Check out the work of Stefan Cvetkovic for examples: https://linktr.ee/stefcvetkovic
Thanks, but cant, i awfully much cringe at serbian pagans/fascists/NS. They are such gay posers, at least orthodox christian patriots are retarded in their own special way, but not ideal. 

>He's a midrashic character, but the character is undeniably jewish. He's explicitly from the tribe of judah,...
I dont know what he was in human form, there are many debates out there of his origin. What about the one where he is half Roman which is one of those blasphemous stories. Im not well informed on this specific topic of his origin to be frank.

>That would be beneficial for them and for any goy who has to interact with them, yes.
Yes of course, in our dreams it would. I would like to see it happen, but what i would like is not reality.

>but we protestant peoples have discarded our own traditions and actually taken the bible more seriously (Americans being the purest example). That's why most of us are either atheist nihilists now, or hardcore zionist christians.
Time will tell then where will the wind blow next and what new ideas and concept will Europe take up on after 2000 years of Christianity.
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>me and rest of Southern Europeans Christianity is much closer than Nordic paganism
New strawman. I've never suggested you ought to adopt Nordic paganism (although it is ethnically closer to you than christianity). I've suggested you choose between the cross and the swastika.
>Greeks and Romans played an important role in forming what it Christianity.
Russians and Chinamen played an important role in forming Marxism in practice. It's still a jewish ideology: all the doctrine is written by the son of a rabbi.
>your attitude strongly implies
You clearly have no idea, so I suggest you focus on what I'm writing, instead of imagining what I might be feeling.
>i cant just disregard the huge impact it had on history of Europe 
Continued strawman. I've never suggested you should.  I've suggested you choose between the cross and the swastika.
>i awfully much cringe at serbian pagans/fascists/NS. 
Then you absolutely need to stop using the swastika.
>Im not well informed 
I am, and as was the NSDAP. That's why they forbade the use of (and I suggest the disuse of) the cross and the swastika in combination. NatSocs are anti-semites. Christianity is created by a self described genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel jew. It's incompatible, and it is offensive to both worldviews to try to syncretise them.
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>>2392
>You clearly have no idea, so I suggest you focus on what I'm writing, instead of imagining what I might be feeling.
I apologize for my strawmans, emotions might lead me, not a good thing.

>I am, and as was the NSDAP. That's why they forbade the use of (and I suggest the disuse of) the cross and the swastika in combination.
Yet they still used it in speeches and public at least Hitler did, invoking Christianity because most Germans were either catholic or protestant. It was not genuine, but only for propaganda to gather people. That would then appear to be realpolitik and most NatSocs i see operate on a very black&white mindset and upfront honesty about things. 

>Then you absolutely need to stop using the swastika.
Swastika doesnt belong to the NatSoc only, it was used all across Eurasia even as a decoration on graves of Christian believers. There is one old graveyard site from 19th century in Eastern Serbia where many graves have swastika as a decoration. It represents the sun generally, what it became after WW2 is a completely different story. I dont excuse jeets for using it since they were given swastika by us 4500 B.C.
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>I apologize
Apology accepted.
>Yet they still used it in speeches and public at least Hitler did
No. You won't find a single example of it by the NSDAP and/or Hitler. It was used by an unaffiliated group, and their use of it was criminalized by the NSDAP as shown in the document I posted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Christians_movement
>most NatSocs i see operate on a very black&white mindset and upfront honesty about things.
Yes. I've had enough of obfuscating our identity and intermingling with jews.
>Swastika doesnt belong to the NatSoc only
It belongs to the Indo-European identity, of which National Socialism is the only meaningful carrier in modernity. It should not be mixed with symbols that are anathema to the Indo-European identity, such as christianity, islam or marxism. If a marxist Swede or a muslim Albanian started using it in combination with his usual symbology, simply because he is also of Indo-European blood, I would be equally offended.
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>>2400
Trying to keep conversation as close to religion as i can, but we ventured into symbology, but its not an issue.

>No. You won't find a single example of it by the NSDAP and/or Hitler. 
Wait, how is that? Dont some of his speeches contain mentions of Jesus and Christianity in a positive light in front of the German public?

>Yes. I've had enough of obfuscating our identity and intermingling with jews.


>If a marxist Swede or a muslim Albanian started using it in combination with his usual symbology, simply because he is also of Indo-European blood, I would be equally offended.
Why? Its like me being offended that Croats use the name Ustashe since it was once a universal name for rebels in the Balkans and even Serbs had organisations of the same name, last of those organizations was "Organization of Serbian Ustashi and Volunteers" which collected donations and funds for veterans of uprisings from late 19th and early 20th century, the organisation dissapeared just as WW2 began. Now Serbs screech and dont even know the original usage of the word. Same logic applies to swastika in this regard and how someone decides to use it, the one who gets the most out of it and the idea catches on, that will be the majority standard, its something that is out of your and mine control no matter how much we dont like it.

When i mix cross and swastika i look for the best of both worlds, simple as. Cant just disregard Christian backbone of Europe because some nosey fuck in Levant screeches 2000 years later.
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>>2413
>Dont some of his speeches contain mentions of Jesus and Christianity in a positive light in front of the German public?
I was talking about the specific iconography. But to answer this new question: there are some potential references in the kampfzeit up until 1933, but all the really explicit "I am a christian and will forever remain one" sort of quotes are extremely poorly attested, if at all. From 1933 onward, I have found nothing that suggests that Hitler was pro christianity at all, and numerous examples of explicit anti-christian propaganda being published by the NSDAP under his leadership.
>hyperspecific Balkan issues
I'll have to take your word for it.
>the one who gets the most out of it and the idea catches on, that will be the majority standard
Appealing to the majority is a logical fallacy. But even if I granted you your dubious logic, then it is Hitler who decided what the swastika is, and he said to keep the cross away from it.
>When i mix cross and swastika i look for the best of both worlds
Why not mix the cross, the swastika, the crescent moon, the hammer and sickle and the star of david then? If you're only picking the best anyway, there's no need to exclude anything. I'm not being facetious.
>Cant just disregard Christian backbone of Europe
European blood is the backbone of Europe.
>some nosey fuck in Levant screeches 2000 years later.
I have no idea what you're talking about here. I am only suggesting to not disobey Hitler's explicit orders regarding symbology. Are you calling him a nosey fuck in the Levant? Surely not.
The nosey fuck in the Levant was 2000 years ago. His name was Saul of Tarsus, he then switched to the goy name "Paul" and wrote most of the books of the new testament. Hitler and Paul are anathema to one another. It is a slap in the face of both (not that I care about the latter) to pretend to syncretize them, because you cannot do so without ignoring their fundamental messages, in which case you're just larping as both, but are neither.
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>>2356
>Zipporah was a negress
Both Moses and Zipporah had one origin and were of Abraham, Madianites were a related people to Israelites (before mixing with the autochthonous Canaanites). Abrahamic peoples are associated with the Amurru-Martu tribes documented in Babylonian and Egyptian sources, and as recorded, those were fair-skinned, light-eyed and blond-haired people. Archeologically speaking, Abraham's ancestors were those Bell Beaker maritime colonists who founded the Caliciform Culture in Northern Syria (where Abraham and his clan come from). Genetic data also testifies the presence of North-Western Europeans in that region. Neither Zipporah nor Moses could've been non-white.

>Egyptian frescoes depicting White Israelites
1) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Syrians_bringing_presents_in_the_tomb_of_Rekhmire.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
2) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1910-lithograph-tomb-egypt-thebes-menkheperraseneb-hieroglyphics-archeology-gift-169943-xghc5-028
3) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1910-lithograph-theban-necropolis-egypt-amu-neseh-hieroglyphic-asiatic-tribute-170477-xghc5-041
4) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1910-lithograph-amu-neseh-thebes-egypt-tomb-hieroglyphic-tribute-asiatics-gifts-169947-xghc5-032
5) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1910-lithograph-hieroglyphic-egypt-thebes-amu-neseh-horses-tribute-asiatics-vase-169948-xghc5-033
6) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1910-lithograph-hieroglyphic-amu-neseh-thebes-egypt-tomb-asiatics-tribute-gifts-169941-xghc5-026
7) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1910-lithograph-thebes-asiatic-egypt-tomb-amu-neseh-tribute-hieroglyphics-vase-170476-xghc5-040
8) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Syrians_Bringing_Vessels_and_Weapons,_Tomb_of_Rekhmire_MET_DP161252.jpg
9) https://www.periodpaper.com/products/1906-photolithograph-thebes-asiatics-tomb-anna-egypt-child-figure-archaeology-130840-xga6-018
10) https://egypt-museum.com/amurru/

>Genetic research on ancient Israelites + additional researches tracing their origin and posterity
1) https://www.academia.edu/127415126/The_Aryan_Hypothesis_Identifying_the_Israelites
2) https://www.academia.edu/143678436/The_Cimmero_Scythian_Origin_Theory_for_the_Celto_Germanic_Peoples_Novel_Archaeological_and_Genetic_Evidence
3) https://www.academia.edu/145225575/A_Eurocentric_Refutation_of_the_Kurgan_Hypothesis

Genesis 9:27 promised that those who should rule Canaan (Israel) would come from Japheth (from Europe through Mediterranea) to the "tents of Shem" (the Middle East). 

White European Bell Beaker traces were found also in Egypt [https://x.com/MiroCyo/status/1704201186952499580], which is the reason why pharaohs had R1b Western haplotypes [https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/half-of-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-idUSTRE7704OR/]. The world which the Bible knew is no longer here, don't fall for ((( jewish ))) LARP who are as Israelite as Turkish immigrants are German. Israelites of Levant only got replaced, as it was with the Indo-Aryans in Iran and India. Online "racists" are only sure about the latter were White because they were linguistically so, and when it comes to discuss Israelites and their origin, they just use the same culturological argument that doesn't work when we talk about ancestry and genetics.
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>>2564
The shitraelites are definitely YOUR sandnigger ancestors and not mine.
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>>2576
Whataboutism, how does this make them non-White? Not to mention modern Idumaean ((( Jews ))) literally have "the oral Law" instead of the written one (the Old Testament Bible). Also half of the list is just gaslighting without any comprehension of what is said in the verses.
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>>2580
Bell Beaker encompassed all of Western Europe. Bell Beakers were WHG and EEF primarily right? At least those in Iberia and Italy. Israelites could have only been a mixture of native Levantines and Bell Beakers if BB were ever present in Levant. Jewish genetic case is so wierd, i hate how they are the only people in the world who are separated yet keep connected but of various phenotypes, just so unnatural imo.
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>>2581
Bell Beakers weren't WHG. Europeans at all aren't WHG. Their admixture in our veins is a statistical artifact of QpAdm. Anyways, the Bell Beakers were only partially EEF (drifted ANF), they also had a significant part of the Indo-European WSH. Overall, their genetic profile would be like of the modern North-Western Europeans (if we're talking about the original Bell Beakers, who lived in modern Britain and Central Europe, of course).
Regarding the Israelites, they couldn't have been Levantine-admixed merely because their ethnogenesis started in northern Syria (Genesis 11-12) and didn't include local Canaanites. They also contributed a lot throughout their recorded history to the  autochthonous populations and the admixture doesn't assume the donor admixture to have MENA components which implies the Israelites and their forefathers kept ethnic purity even after settling the Eastern Mediterranean and fundamentally changing local culture and genome.
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>>2583
>Europeans at all aren't WHG. Their admixture in our veins is a statistical artifact of QpAdm.
How, what about Basques? WHG contributed together with ANE to make EHG roughly speaking who are ancestors of WSH together with CHG. WHG is present in Eastern Europe, but it is quite small i get, almost negligable you could say, but shouldnt it be more present in Scandinavia and Atlantic coast?
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>>2583
No WHG? 
I have I2 Y-dna and pretty solid blood in northern germany with no break from evidence I've gathered for last 600 years or so, can only assume beyond that would be pretty stable location wise. I would like to learn more about "No WHG" though since the charts point me to being as WHG as a modern human could get other than idk something like inuits or some weird outlier maybe? 
Obviously I can't know but a reasonable possibility is I come from WHG who colonized europe as the Last Glacial Maximum receded and then mixed with indo-europeans etc as they came in later (given my I2 bloodline but not the more "modern" slavic branches.
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Of course I have to add I would be of the I2 bloodline of males that survived the R bloodlines coming in and dominating north-western europe aside from I1 and other I2 branches of course.
>>2580
Yes, the fact that the shitraelites exhibited only subhuman sandnigger behavior is a good indictation that they were subhuman sandniggers (your ancestrors).
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>>2584
- WHG contribution to EEF is just a statistical artefact which can be neglected, as there's no archeological proof for mixing, and the Y-DNA haplogroups which were common among them and EEF are also found in ANF so they are not an argument 
- Yamnaya and other Indo-European profiles can be modelled through the Maykop culture samples
- the WHG signal, although being just a signal and not an actual admixture, is higher in Eastern Europe and the Baltics and not in the West

>>2586
See above, I2 is a EEF haplogroup which was found among early ANF as well

>>2592
Your logic:
- Israelites practiced seemingly the same customs as the modern kikesz therefore they are the same people
Reasonable objections to such a reasoning:
- Societal factors don't influence one's race or origin, one can be raised and practice a culture he doesn't belong to by blood
- the fact modern kikes practice seemingly similar customs points out the fact they keep the Old Testament traditions of the Israelites, not that the Israelites were the kikes. If it were the kikes who predate the Israelites, then it would make any sense. But it's not like that, the kikes continuing what was brought to them by the Hyrcanus dynasty in 140-120 BC doesn't lead us to the conclusion you have made. Following that logic, we could have also argued that the Europeans are the Israelites and that they were Europeans, because we followed Christianity for 2000 years. It could also make it possible to state the Indians and the Iranians are the true Aryans, and that the very Aryans were akin to them. Overall, your logical acheme fails to convince us in that the origins of the ancient Israel lied in local brown Canaanites or anything like that. Your entire point is that da joos believe something, then must be they are correct. Why would a right-wing White nationalist ever put the jewish glasses on his eyes to see through them?
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>>2617
>the WHG signal, although being just a signal and not an actual admixture, is higher in Eastern Europe and the Baltics and not in the West
Wait, that means that WHG were not so populous then? Western and SW Europe was inhabited by EEFs and WSHs mostly then?

Also the pic, based AncestralWhispers enjoyer, cheers!
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>>2617
The shitraelites were inbred dick skin eating sandniggers and your retarded wall of cope does nothing to change that fact.
Death to the god of israel.
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