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Of course I have to add I would be of the I2 bloodline of males that survived the R bloodlines coming in and dominating north-western europe aside from I1 and other I2 branches of course.
>>2580
Yes, the fact that the shitraelites exhibited only subhuman sandnigger behavior is a good indictation that they were subhuman sandniggers (your ancestrors).
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- WHG contribution to EEF is just a statistical artefact which can be neglected, as there's no archeological proof for mixing, and the Y-DNA haplogroups which were common among them and EEF are also found in ANF so they are not an argument 
- Yamnaya and other Indo-European profiles can be modelled through the Maykop culture samples
- the WHG signal, although being just a signal and not an actual admixture, is higher in Eastern Europe and the Baltics and not in the West

>>2586
See above, I2 is a EEF haplogroup which was found among early ANF as well

>>2592
Your logic:
- Israelites practiced seemingly the same customs as the modern kikesz therefore they are the same people
Reasonable objections to such a reasoning:
- Societal factors don't influence one's race or origin, one can be raised and practice a culture he doesn't belong to by blood
- the fact modern kikes practice seemingly similar customs points out the fact they keep the Old Testament traditions of the Israelites, not that the Israelites were the kikes. If it were the kikes who predate the Israelites, then it would make any sense. But it's not like that, the kikes continuing what was brought to them by the Hyrcanus dynasty in 140-120 BC doesn't lead us to the conclusion you have made. Following that logic, we could have 
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>>2617
>the WHG signal, although being just a signal and not an actual admixture, is higher in Eastern Europe and the Baltics and not in the West
Wait, that means that WHG were not so populous then? Western and SW Europe was inhabited by EEFs and WSHs mostly then?

Also the pic, based AncestralWhispers enjoyer, cheers!
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>>2617
The shitraelites were inbred dick skin eating sandniggers and your retarded wall of cope does nothing to change that fact.
Death to the god of israel.

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The Action Bible- God's Redemptive Story - Sergio Cariello 477 MB Download

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The Action Bible- Converted From EPUB Into PDF

The Action Bible is a retelling of the Judeo-Christian Bible in comic book form written and edited by Doug Mauss and illustrated by Sergio Cariello for David C. Cook, published in 2010. Andre LeBlanc's 1978 The Picture Bible was a major influence on the project.

Plot
The story is very similar to the Bible however some parts are modified both to fit the medium, and to fit a younger audience. The story is split into two major parts, the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Historical events
The book includes mentions of Alexander of Macedon and the celebration of Hanukkah as well as the arrival of the Roman Empire in Israel.
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>>58975
spotted the mooslime
>>58979
HAHAHA FUCKIN RIGHT THAT RAGHEAD
IT'S SO OBVIOUS WE CAN SPOT YOU A MILE AWAY AHMED
LIKE SOMEONE WHO ISN'T A MUDSLIME WOULDN'T WANT TO READ A RANDOM COPY/PASTED WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE FOR NO REASON
HAHAHAHA YOU THOUGH YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH IT DIDN'T YOU MOHAMMED BIN FAGGOT HAHAHAHA
BUT YOU DIDN'T COUNT ON THE HIGH IQ LOCAL POPULACE KNOWING ALL ABOUT YOUR CRYPTOKIKE TURBOJEW GOATRAPE WAYS HAHAHAHAHA BUT WE DO
>>58983
Kek
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Do they depict these scenes?
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Here?

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Without doubt you can see the "Tree's of Life" "Serpent" and "Bulls" or "Sickles" "Cubes" in every religion not just Christian

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There is a single verse in the Christian Bible that disproves Zionism entirely. It comes from 1 Peter, but to explain, I have to set up some context.

In 1 Peter chapter 1, we learn that this is a circular letter written to churches in five cities; Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia. These were all churches in what was then Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey. The city of particular interest for this argument is Galatia.

Just a few books back in the Bible, we have another letter to the Galatians, this one written by Paul. And it's obvious that this letter is written to a primarily Gentile church, as evidenced by verses such as:

Gal 1:14-17, 2:2-3, 3:7-9, 3:28-29, 4:8-9, 5:2, 5:11-12

So where 1 Peter is concerned, I see no reason to believe that it was not written to Gentile Christians as well, or at least to congregations that included Gentiles, even if there were also Jews in those churches.

And to these presumably Gentile Christians, Peter says in chapter 2 verses 9 and 10:

"But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy."

If Gentile believers are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, what else can they be but spiritual Israelites?
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> holohoax
I know I could look this up myself, but I've been trying for a while now with only a little luck on the stuff you've mentioned (last goldmine I found was the Leuchter report). Would you mind posting your sources? This stuff is difficult to turn up.

> Jesus's mother was undeniably jewish
I'm gonna have to break with you a little bit on the religious stuff. I don't believe in Judeo-Christianity. There's Judaism and there's Christianity. The conflation of the two is a Zionist tactic, and as a Christian, I do not want to be conflated with Judaism. That being said, the entire Christian religion comes from Jewish people, including David and his lineage. It's a little anachronistic to say it that way tho; the Jews were so called cuz they came out of the Kingdom of Judah when Babylon conquered them. They referred to themselves as Israel until they returned from the exile. "Israelite," "Judahite," and "Jew" refer to the same ethnic group, just at different points in history. Judaism is it's own religion, distinct from the Yahwism of the early Israelites and Judahites, and Jesus very much opposed it despite His Jewish ancestry. Conflating ethnic Judaism, religious Judaism, and the state and government of Israel is another Zionist tactic they deploy so that if you criticize the country or the religion, they can call you racist and antisimetic.
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>>2628
>I know I could look this up myself, but I've been trying for a while now with only a little luck on the stuff you've mentioned (last goldmine I found was the Leuchter report). Would you mind posting your sources? This stuff is difficult to turn up.
Certainly. My stuff is scattered a bit, but these should suffice for now. Within that video (of all authentic collected newspapers), you will find headlines from various publishers-- some surviving to this very day. I'll will link two, with the date of publication present along with the link to buy an archived copy yourself. I will follow this with one of many publications mentioning the 'six million' figure long before Hitler ever took power, with a direct link to one of many university libraries that published scans of such texts online if you wish from sources different from the New York Times.
>I'm gonna have to break with you a little bit on the religious stuff. I don't believe in Judeo-Christianity. There's Judaism and there's Christianity. The conflation of the two is a Zionist tactic, and as a Christian, I do not want to be conflated with Judaism. That being said, the entire Christian religion comes from Jewish people, including David and his lineage. 
I am aware of the difference. I've posted on the differences myself many times; I will provide two such long posts of my own as proof below:

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Pharisees are the original Jews, which were a heretical subfaction of the ancient Israelites and Hebrews. They are the creators of Pharisiasm, which later evolved into Talmudism, until being refined by their foreign converts into what is now called Judaism. During time in captivity in Babylon, they adopted foreign practices including child sacrifice, worship of Saturn and Ba'al, and other customs much like the Phoenicians and their cousins the Carthaginians. They brought these back to the lands where the Israelites and Hebrews dwelt. Either during captivity or afterwards, they steadily became intermingled with foreign blood in addition to their spiritual change in religion and culture.

Pharisees, Sadducees, and a few other related groups (the original Jews) are called the enemies of the entire human race [1], the children of hell [2], a brood of vipers [3], and the children of Satan [4]. Additionally, they are the direct killers of Jesus Christ.

The Khazarian-Turkish Jews, more commonly referred to as 'the Jews' themselves nowadays, especially of the Ashkenazi strain, are their foreign converts and disciples. They are called the twice children of hell that the original Jews are [2] and are the Synagogue of Satan [5, 6].

Essentially, all original Jews were wiped out or sold into slavery after the failed three Jewish Rebellions when Rome genocided them for their crimes. Their ancestral records, including the priesthood, were completely destroyed. The daughters of the priesthood were raped and carried into sexual slavery. The Temple of Herod (the 2nd Temple) was additionally destroyed. Countless were slain or committed suicide. Rape and sexual slavery was so commonplace and systematic by the Romans to the point that they were race-mixed into oblivion for all intents and purposes.  This is the origin of the switch from between patrilineal to matrilineal descendancy to determine if you are a Jew in contrast to the Israelites or Hebrews, along with their survival strategy of pawning off Jewish females to any invader or host nation for many centuries (one always know the identity of the mother, even if the womb was fertilized by the countless many foreigner). A tiny surviving remnant scattered to the winds and seem to have interbred with Slavic-Turkish women (directly against the creeds of their own ethnoreligion, de facto making them non-Jews) in sections of ancient Ukraine, Poland, and Russia which was then called Khazaria.

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>>2628
Returning back to the original question about Christianity vs Judeo-Christianity, I think you will find in your own words exactly what I was getting at:
>That being said, the entire Christian religion comes from Jewish people, including David and his lineage.
>It's a little anachronistic to say it that way tho; the Jews were so called cuz they came out of the Kingdom of Judah when Babylon conquered them.
>Judaism is it's own religion, distinct from the Yahwism of the early Israelites and Judahites, and Jesus very much opposed it despite His Jewish ancestry.
It was with good reason I only focused on Mary. I've tried examining it from every which way, but nevertheless arrived at the fact that it is a religion about a man (with a jewish mother) being idolized, with about 60% of the New Testament being written by the most jewest of jews (Paul / Saul). And again, by modern standards even, what do we call an individual with a full-blooded jewish mother? She is jewish, even if not strictly a pharisee or sadducee. Anyways, none of this is intended to insult you or tear you down. In truth, I didn't see this connection either until I studied foreign religions-- namely, I looked at the hindus who idolize Gods with pale-skin, blonde hair, and oftentimes blue eyes. They worship cows which the In
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>>2628
>holohoax
>I know I could look this up myself, but I've been trying for a while now with only a little luck on the stuff you've mentioned (last goldmine I found was the Leuchter report). Would you mind posting your sources? This stuff is difficult to turn up.
Here's one of the best compilations you'll find as well. Many are in that video, as well as being findable on your own with even a little bit of detective work. Again, break the spine of jewry (the holocaust myth) and a lot of the foundation of this nightmarish postmodern world falls apart.
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>>2628
Here's some more compilations and resources I finally dug up. Knew I had them somewhere. The Encyclopedia Britannica (10th Edition), on Pg. 482 is a book you can find online and offline in many university libraries. It's the one I talked about earlier, because I found this very entry and marked it myself.

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I think Christianity is a partial offshoot of later Greek Platonic Philosophy, Late Hebrew Religious Outcasts, Egyptian-Alexandrian Thought Schools all designed to Destroy Roman Authority.

Now get a radical end times preacher in Israel and warp the ancestry of prominent pre-Jewish ancestral people who helped found the Kingdom of Israel tied with it's kings and then leading to Jesus plus the rumors of miracles and divine powers and thought control and worship that challenges Authority to a unseen thing that transcends that then you have a recipe to cuck Rome and Greeks, Jews, Egyptians can be the replacement of that authority.... well they cucked Rome and the West, but got destoryed and enslaved by Arabs so it ironically worked yet didn't help them succeed as ethnic nationalities in more powerful empires so why you have the Balkans lol
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Christianity definitely had it's influence from Greek philosophy and Platonism especially. I read Gregory of Nyssa's Life of Moses not too long ago and in that book he even borrows Plato's tripartite soul and applies it to the story of the Exodus. As far as cucking Roman power, pick up a Bible and read Romans 13. That's the most prominent of the Apostles who wrote the vast majority of the New Testament telling Christians living in Rome to be subject to Roman authority and not to start any uprisings or cause any trouble. Even with Jesus' crucification, the Romans didn't want to kill Him, but they were pressured by the Jews. Jesus didn't pose a threat to Roman power, He posed a threat to the corrupt religious order of the Jews at the time. The Romans basically looked at it as the Jews having a personal problem. Nero only persecuted early Christians because they were a small, powerless group that he knew he could blame his own poor leadership abilities on, not because he was worried they would overthrow the empire.
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>>2619
>I read Gregory of Nyssa's Life of Moses not too long ago and in that book he even borrows Plato's tripartite soul and applies it to the story of the Exodus.
Trinity is definitely a Indo-European concept that became part of Christianity, thats why Islam lacks it and rejects it because of less influence from Indo-European beliefs. 

>>2616 (OP) 
>yet didn't help them succeed as ethnic nationalities in more powerful empires so why you have the Balkans lol
What?
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>>2620
Not to mention, that not all Christian sects believed in the Trinity. The LDS church, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Unitarian church all reject it, although I guess the average Orthodox / Catholic / Protestant would reject those sects as non-Christian. I recently found out that Justin Martyr did not believe in the Trinity, I plan to check out his writings soon

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How and why modern pagans copied Catholicism and Jesus worship to associate the same structure with the Gods is retarded, now they even use it for Mental health therapy when historically the polytheistic Gods go deeper esoterically and animistically plus the fact they were seen as terrifying entities not as worship but as alien beings that cold kill you that are unpredictable
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>>2615 (OP) 
Whites have been lobotomized by jewish religion. Christcucks are all closet faggots and yhwh is their imaginary BDSM boyfriend. Shitstianity has robbed Whites of the understanding of the true nature of the higher powers.
Only the most exceptional Whites are capable of understanding The Gods as they truly are: immutable forces of nature.
A circumcised White cannot conceive of a god who isn't a foreskin obsessed dessert demon that so desperately needs the approval of mortals that he threatens them with eternal torture if they don't believe in him.
The (real) Gods don't need your worship, you need to worship The Gods.

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Is there an ideology that maps the development of human civilization as a whole to the development of an individual? Something that, for instance, makes comparisons between the early stages of human life with the early stages of humanity's existence? I've been interested in this concept for a minute now but don't even know where to start.
Didnt some of the German philosophers discuss the idea that reality and civilization is manifestation of ourselves or something like that? Talking about mapping, part of the answer might be in Asian philosophies with how world moves in cycles, its same for the universe and the individual.

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Just as we view Judaism as our enemy, we must also view Islam equally as an enemy. Picrel has been an ongoing revision for the last 15 years, you probably have seen other older versions of this across the other chans. This is the current picrel update since around a half a decade. 

https://archive.md/i7HDh

Also included is a Deepseek AI breakdown of the four caliphates, with some traditions each from the Sunni, Shia, and Ibadi viewpoints of the caliphate:  What this simply means is that you see a clear picture of the differences in the denominations of Islam. I will include the text of the archived pastebin link above in the folllowing post.

Remember, view this from an enemy standpoint, none of these sandnigger worshipping subhumans should ever be trusted nor allied with, period.




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islam is temporary Jesus is eternal
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Islam: The religion of cousin goat fuckers
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>>1839

Ibadi muslims are the equivalent of the Anabaptists of christianity...  

Just as the Mennonites and Amish are the ONLY true christians of Christianity,  the Ibadi are the ONLY true muslims of Islam...

*** NOTE:  not fucking sorry at all if this offends anyone.
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ISLAM:  Historical Foundings & Events

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A while ago, I found out that the word church comes from the Greek "ekklesia," which means "a called out assembly."

I found out recently that "elect" comes from the Greek "eklektos," which seems to have been translated faithfully into English.

I guess ekklesia is technically a derivative of "kaleo" ("to call") but the relationship to eklektos seems obvious to me.

I know there's a lot of differing opinions out there about the relationship between election, predestination, and God's foreknowledge, but to me, I feel like this is what I see in the Bible:

The "church" (ekklesia) is a called out assembly of elect (eklekta) and predestined individuals, not simply foreknown about but foreknown *BY* God (because you wouldn't fill an ekklesia with people you didn't know) for the express purpose of conforming us to the likeness of the Son.

Does this sound right, based off the Greek words? My mom calls me Calvinist and my dad says it's a heresy. I feel like I can't un-see this in my Bible. I feel that people who boil it all down simply to foreknowledge (meaning, God does not choose His elect, He just knows ahead of time who will and won't be saved) basically just say that words don't mean what they clearly mean, and that's their whole argument. They skip right over every instance of the words "elect" and "predestine" in their Bibles and use the occasional "foreknown" as a get-out-of-jail-free card so that they don't have to wrestle with tough theology. Or am I just retarde
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>>2604
Haven't clicked the link, but this sounds on the right track to me. After posting thr OP, I learned that in Romans 9, I forget the exact verses but where he mentions vessels prepared for wrath and vessels prepared for mercy, I found out the word "prepared" is actually 2 different Greek words. The "prepared" in prepared for wrath / destruction apparently implies that the person prepared themselves, whereas the "prepared" in prepared for mercy implies being prepared by another person, so in this case God. Seems to line up with what you said really well.
>>2605
I agree with you that we shouldn't try and pin the things from Revelation on modern things. I don't agree that Nueralink is the mark or anything like that. But Revelation is of a kind with Daniel, and the 4-headed beast from Daniel is well understood to represent the 4 nations that controlled Palestine after the fall of the kingdom of Judah; Babylon, Persia/Media, Greece, Rome. The one that represents Persia/Media even had 2 horns, one smaller one larger, if I'm not mistaken. And stuff doesn't have to be explicitly said to be metaphorical. Look at Joseph's dream of the stars bowing down to him, or Peter vision of the animals on the sheet. Neither are explicitly stated to be metaphorical, but they are. The Hebrew language in general is metaphorical (https://voices.sefaria.org/sheets/421688?lang=bi), so I feel it's safe to safe Hebrew writing probably have a metaphorical nature to them inherently.
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>>2607
I confess I died at Numbers and never got to Daniel
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>>2608
Skip Numbers. Boring as hell. Leviticus drags a lot too. The best bet to be able to grasp traditional Christian teaching is the new Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. While it can be used as a blunt force weapon or doorstop, the commentary is really good and even-handed as far as presenting different interpretations and theories on various passages from the early Church Fathers down to the present day.  It also contains all the books Luther took out, but not as many as say the Ethiopian Coptic Bible or Orthodox Bible. 

Not that the additional books in the Orthodox or Coptic Bible are bad (Enoch makes for an entertaining read), but they're not used in Liturgy in any of the Apostolic Churches AFAIK. The Catholic Church stopped printing them in our Bibles mostly for that reason and because there's no consensus on them being Divinely inspired. The Orthodox Study Bible is good too, but not as detailed as the Ignatius Bible.
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>>2609
>The best bet to be able to grasp traditional Christian teaching is the new Ignatius Catholic Study Bible.
Thanks, i`ll keep that in mind.

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