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Just as we view Judaism as our enemy, we must also view Islam equally as an enemy. Picrel has been an ongoing revision for the last 15 years, you probably have seen other older versions of this across the other chans. This is the current picrel update since around a half a decade. 

https://archive.md/i7HDh

Also included is a Deepseek AI breakdown of the four caliphates, with some traditions each from the Sunni, Shia, and Ibadi viewpoints of the caliphate:  What this simply means is that you see a clear picture of the differences in the denominations of Islam. I will include the text of the archived pastebin link above in the folllowing post.

Remember, view this from an enemy standpoint, none of these sandnigger worshipping subhumans should ever be trusted nor allied with, period.




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Q.  

What was the Ibadi view, the Shi'a view, and Sunni views on the 4 Caliphates:  Can you give simple description of their views for all 4 Caliphates, and give 5 traditions for each the Ibadi, the Shi'a, and the Sunni concerning their views on each Caliphate.



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### The Four Caliphates: Sunni, Shia, and Ibadi Perspectives  
Here’s a simplified breakdown of all four caliphates, with five traditions each from Sunni, Shia, and Ibadi viewpoints:  

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### 1. Rashidun Caliphate (632–661 CE)  
Description: The first four caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali) ruled from Medina.  

Sunni Traditions:  
1. All Four Revered: Legitimate successors chosen through consensus (*shura*) or necessity.  
2. Golden Age Model: Embodied justice, piety, and unity.  
3. Friday Prayer Legitimacy: Caliphal authority validated communal prayers.  
4. Preservation of Unity: Era of an undivided Muslim *Ummah*.  
5. Hadith Transmission: Companions of these caliphs are trusted narrators.  

Shia Traditions:  
1. Only Ali Legitimate: Reject Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman as usurpers.  
2. Saqifa Betrayal: Election of Abu Bakr violated Ali’s divine right.  
3. Karbala Roots: Ali’s martyrdom and Husayn’s death frame resistance to later caliphates.  
4. Ahl al-Bayt Leadership: Authority belongs exclusively to Muhammad’s family.  
5. Reject Sunni Consensus: Dismiss claims of early Muslim unity.  

Ibadi Traditions:  
1. Partial Recognition: Accept Abu Bakr and Umar as legitimate but reject Uthman (nepotism) and Ali (civil strife).  
2. Elective Leadership: Caliphs must be elected based on piety, not lineage or tribal ties.  
3. Moderate Kharijite Legacy: Reject Kharijite extremism but uphold early dissent against Uthman’s corruption.  
4. Neutrality in Conflicts: Avoid taking sides in the First Fitna (Ali vs. Muawiyah).  
5. Quran-Centric Governance: Prioritize Quranic principles over later innovations (*bid’ah*).  

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### 2. Umayyad Caliphate (661–750 CE)  
Description: Hereditary dynasty in Damascus, expanded Islam territorially.  

Sunni Traditions:  
1. Historical Acceptance: Acknowledge as rulers but criticize nepotism.  
2. Expansion of Islam: Credit for spreading Islam to Spain, North Africa, and Central Asia.  
3. Administrative Systems: Recognize bureaucratic innovations (e.g., postal service).  
4. Avoid Sectarian Labels: View as a political dynasty, not "Sunni" or "Shia."  
5. Umar II Exception: Praise Caliph Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz for piety.  

Shia Traditions:  
1. Usurpers of Ali’s Rights: Blame for oppressing the *Ahl al-Bayt*.  
2. Karbala Martyrdom: Mourn Husayn’s killing by Umayyad forces.  
3. Curses on Umayyads: Condemn Muawiyah and Yazid in sermons.  
4. Reject Legitimacy: Deny religious validity to Umayyad rule.  
5. Resistance Veneration: Celebrate Zaydi revolts against Umayyads.  

Ibadi Traditions:  
1. Opposition to Hereditary Rule: Reject Umayyads as dynastic usurpers.  
2. Non-Violent Resistance: Forbid rebellion unless rulers openly defy Islam.  
3. Critique of Centralization: Prefer decentralized, community-based governance.  
4. Focus on Oman: Ibadi communities thrived in Oman under Umayyad tolerance.  
5. Reject Sectarian Labels: Identify as neither Sunni nor Shia, upholding pre-sectarian ideals.  

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### 3. Abbasid Caliphate (750–1258 CE)  
Description: Overthrew Umayyads, ruled from Baghdad; patronized scholarship.  

Sunni Traditions:  
1. Sunni Scholarship: Codified Hanafi/Maliki schools and Ash’ari theology.  
2. Revival of Justice: Claimed to restore Rashidun ideals (early period).  
3. Cultural Golden Age: Celebrate advancements in science and philosophy.  
4. Caliph as Symbol: Accepted Abbasids as spiritual leaders.  
5. Opposition to Shia: Backed Sunni scholars against Shia influence.  

Shia Traditions:  
1. Betrayal of Alids: Abbasids sidelined Ali’s descendants after seizing power.  
2. Imam Persecution: Mourn Abbasid oppression of Imams (e.g., Musa al-Kadhim).  
3. Occultation of Mahdi: Twelvers link the 12th Imam’s hiding to Abbasid tyranny.  
4. Reject Legitimacy: View Abbasids as illegitimate as the Umayyads.  
5. Celebrate Shia Dynasties: Venerate Fatimids/Buyids for resisting Abbasids.  

Ibadi Traditions:  
1. Reject Centralized Rule: Oppose Abbasid autocracy and Baghdad-centric governance.  
2. Anti-Sectarianism: Criticize Abbasid persecution of both Shia and Kharijites.  
3. Oman Independence: Maintained Ibadi imamates in Oman outside Abbasid control.  
4. Simplified Theology: Avoid complex debates (e.g., Mu’tazili rationalism).  
5. Community Consensus: Prioritize local *shura* (consultation) over caliphal decrees.  

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### 4. Ottoman Caliphate (1517–1924 CE)  
Description: Sunni Turkic empire in Istanbul; claimed caliphate after conquering Mamluks.  

Sunni Traditions:  
1. Sunni Orthodoxy: Enforced Hanafi law and persecuted Shia.  
2. Defenders of Islam: Framed as protectors against European colonialism.  
3. Caliphal Authority: Revived title to unify global Sunnis.  
4. Patronage of Sufism: Supported Mevlevi and Naqshbandi orders.  
5. Holy Sites Control: Oversaw Mecca/Medina and Hajj logistics.  

Shia Traditions:  
1. Oppressors of Shia: Condemn Ottoman persecution in Iraq/Anatolia.  
2. Safavid Solidarity: View Shia Iran as a counterweight to Ottomans.  
3. Reject Legitimacy: Deny Ottoman claims to religious leadership.  
4. Ashura Suppression: Criticize bans on mourning rituals.  
5. Scholarly Resistance: Celebrate Shia clerics who retained autonomy.  

Ibadi Traditions:  
1. Political Quietism: Avoided confrontation with Ottomans, focusing on Oman.  
2. No Caliphal Recognition: Reject Ottoman claims as irrelevant to Ibadi governance.  
3. Local Autonomy: Maintained self-rule in Oman under loose Ottoman suzerainty.  
4. Anti-Fanaticism: Opposed Ottoman enforcement of Sunni orthodoxy.  
5. Cultural Preservation: Sustained Ibadi practices (e.g., simple mosques, egalitarian ethics).  

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### Summary:  
- Sunni: Venerate Rashidun, tolerate later caliphates as historical rulers, revere Ottomans.  
- Shia: Only accept Ali’s rule, reject all other caliphates as usurpers, resist oppression.  
- Ibadi: Accept Abu Bakr/Umar, reject later caliphs, prioritize piety and community consensus over dynastic rule.  

Theological Core:  
- Sunni: Consensus (*ijma*), historical continuity, and legal schools (*madhhabs*).  
- Shia: Divine appointment (*Imamate*), martyrdom, and eschatology (Mahdi).  
- Ibadi: Moderation, Quran-centric governance, and rejection of sectarianism.  

This triad reflects Islam’s diverse responses to leadership, justice, and community identity.





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Ibadi Buc-ee's
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Demonize Jews, deport Muslims. How does that sound, ay lads?
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>>1812 (OP) 

Note they both hate bacon. Jews because of the kosher Leviticus laws and Muslims because of halal. So don't go around smearing bacon grease on money to make it unclean too these two abrahamic relgions.
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picrel
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>>1812 (OP) 
<Just as we view Judaism as our enemy, we must also view Islam equally as an enemy.
No. There are over 2 billion muzzies. By contrast, there is a mere 16 million or so kikes. Using the parallel tactics of real-time strategy games, Satan's Children are respawn units for foreign invaders; there is no victory over the countless brown hordes unless these respawn points are exposed, expelled, expunged, exterminated entirely. Only then, can true progress be made on the imported bioweapons.

Historically, muzzies have always been soundly defeated on the seas through anti-piracy and forced to flee back to their sandnigger lands when ethnic Europeans are in full force. Other weapons to deal with them can be utilized in the future once they are killed and removed from all ethnic European lands, but this cannot be accomplished until the talmudites are violently purged down to the last woman and child.
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>>1814

fuck muzzie sandniggers
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>>1817
spiting truth bacon cheeseburgers are the ultimate test also cheese on meat isn't kosher. Cheeseburger Loyalty tests.
Just was listening to a podcast of Brandon . He said He has narrowed down this as the possible location of THE UNITED STATES corp within DC. He was using FOIA to get this info.


https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8930825,-77.0251367,300m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUyMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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>>1826
wrong thread fren
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make no mistake, the zionist jews are gearing up for this...   WWIII
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>>1813

Ibadi are both the original denomination of Islam and the only true form of Islam:
Aqidah:  Mu‘tazilah
Da'wah:  Kalam

https://archive.is/Pdq1G


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Q.  (picture related):  
What really is the difference in the Ibadi denomination of Islam?   the Sunni say that the Ibadi are not muslims, and the Shi'a say that the Ibadi are NOT shi'ites...  so what is this all about?  Gimme 20 different ways that Ibadi are different than Sunni both theology wise and culturally wise, and also gimme 20 different ways that Ibadi are different than Shi'a both theology wise and culturally wise...   

A.  (deepseek a.i.)
### Ibadi vs. Sunni: 20 Theological and Cultural Differences  
Theological Differences:  
1. Caliphate Legitimacy: Ibadis reject the Sunni view of the Rashidun Caliphate’s legitimacy after Ali, arguing leadership should be elected based on piety, not lineage or tribal affiliation.  
2. Non-Sectarian Identity: Ibadis do not identify as Sunni or Shia, claiming to represent the original *Ummah* (community) of Muhammad.  
3. Quran as Created: Unlike Sunni Ash’aris, Ibadis believe the Quran is created, aligning with Mu’tazila rationalism.  
4. Predestination: Ibadis emphasize free will (*qadar*) over Sunni predestinarian views (e.g., Ash’ari *qada wa qadar*).  
5. Eternity of Hellfire: Ibadis believe hellfire is not eternal for sinful Muslims, contrasting Sunni orthodoxy.  
6. Leadership Criteria: Leaders (*Imams*) must be elected, knowledgeable, and just—rejecting hereditary rule (e.g., Umayyads/Abbasids).  
7. Kharijite Legacy: Ibadis descend from moderate Kharijites but reject extremism (e.g., declaring others *kafir*).  
8. Non-Violence: Ibadis forbid rebellion against unjust rulers unless they openly defy Islam, unlike early Kharijites.  
9. Intercession: Reject Sunni beliefs in intercession by prophets or saints.  
10. Hadith Acceptance: More selective in Hadith use, prioritizing Quran and early community consensus.  

Cultural Differences:  
11. Geographic Concentration: Predominantly in Oman (80% of population), with smaller communities in North Africa.  
12. Legal School Independence: Ibadi *fiqh* is distinct from Sunni schools (Hanafi, Shafi’i, etc.), e.g., simpler divorce laws.  
13. Friday Prayers: Do not require a caliph’s presence for Friday prayers to be valid, unlike classical Sunni positions.  
14. Non-Sectarian Dialogue: Historically more open to dialogue with other sects, avoiding Sunni-Shia polemics.  
15. Dress Code: Less emphasis on strict gender segregation in worship spaces compared to conservative Sunni practices.  
16. Eid Celebrations: Simpler rituals, avoiding innovations like elaborate sermons or decorations.  
17. Education: Traditional Ibadi scholarship emphasizes *al-ʿadl wa-l-istiqāma* (justice and integrity) over rote memorization.  
18. Art and Architecture: Avoid depictions of living beings, favoring geometric designs (similar to Sunni but distinct in motifs).  
19. Political Quietism: Historically avoided political power struggles, focusing on community cohesion.  
20. Non-Ibadi Muslims: Regard Sunnis/Shia as “people of Qibla” (Muslims) but errant in practice—unlike Sunni excommunication trends.  

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### Ibadi vs. Shia: 20 Theological and Cultural Differences  
Theological Differences:  
1. Imamate Concept: Reject Shia hereditary Imamate; Ibadi Imams are elected and can be deposed.  
2. Infallibility: Deny Shia belief in the infallibility (*ismah*) of Imams.  
3. Ali’s Status: Venerate Ali but reject Shia elevation of him as divinely appointed.  
4. Twelver Mahdi: Do not believe in the occultation of the 12th Imam or a messianic return.  
5. Taqiyya (Dissimulation): Reject taqiyya as permissible deception, unlike Twelver/Ismaili Shia.  
6. Mourning Rituals: Forbid self-flagellation and public mourning (e.g., Ashura) as bid’ah (innovation).  
7. Temporary Marriage: Prohibit *mut’ah* (temporary marriage), which some Shia permit.  
8. Companions of Muhammad: Criticize early Shia vilification of companions like Abu Bakr and Umar.  
9. God’s Justice: Unlike Shia emphasis on *adl* (justice), Ibadis focus on God’s transcendence.  
10. Esotericism: Reject Shia *bāṭini* (esoteric) interpretations of the Quran.  

Cultural Differences:  
11. Religious Hierarchy: No clerical hierarchy (e.g., Shia marja’ or ayatollahs); scholars are community-elected.  
12. Pilgrimage Practices: Discourage visiting shrines of Imams (e.g., Karbala), seen as idolatrous.  
13. Community Structure: Egalitarian leadership vs. Shia hereditary sayyid families.  
14. Religious Art: Avoid portraits of Imams, contrasting Shia iconography (e.g., Hussain’s image).  
15. Legal Flexibility: Ibadi law adapts to local customs, unlike Twelver reliance on marja’ rulings.  
16. Women’s Roles: Historically allowed women broader public roles (e.g., trade) compared to conservative Shia regions.  
17. Festivals: Only celebrate Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha, rejecting Shia-specific days (e.g., Ghadeer).  
18. Historical Conflicts: Avoided sectarian wars (e.g., Safavid-Ottoman conflicts) by remaining neutral.  
19. Geopolitical Influence: Lack state-backed religious institutions (vs. Shia Iran’s Wilayat al-Faqih).  
20. Interfaith Relations: Less emphasis on proselytization compared to Shia da’wa movements.  

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Note: Ibadi Islam is often termed the "third way" (*madhab al-wasat*), balancing Sunni and Shia extremes while prioritizing moderation, consensus, and scripture. Their theological and cultural distinctiveness reflects early Islamic schisms and a unique historical trajectory centered on Oman.




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>>1816
Common misinterpretation. Pork is haram but unknowingly handling it or accidentally eating is not. I don't know why you people are so obsessed with pork.
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Pig is good, boy!  You from out there in Sandniggerville, boy?
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>>1851

Oy Vey, my fellow hebrew parasite!  Judaism and Islam are cancers upon this Earth.  You jewkikes destroy Christian history and sacred places than Islam has ever done to Christianity.
Sandniggers did 9/11
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>>1812 (OP) 

North Carolina

Do NOT go to doctors inside the leftwing democrat shithole of Noeth Carolina, unless you want to be "practiced on" by a subhuman islamic sandnigger:



Algeria:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Iraq:  Twelver Jafari Shi'a (Ithna'Ashariyya)

Morroco:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Egypt:  Hanafi Sunni Islam (Maturiddiyya)

Libya:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Palestine:  Hanafi Sunni Islam (Maturiddiyya)

Syria:  Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Ash'ari)

Tunisia:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Sudan:  Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Ash'ari)

Comoros:  Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Ash'ari)

Mauritania:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Lebanon:  Twelver Jafari Shi'a (Ithna'Ashariyya)

Jordan:  Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Ash'ari)

Djibouti:  Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Ash'ari)

Yemen:  Fiver Zaydiyya Shi'a (Jarudiyya)

Somalia:  Shafi'i Sunni Islam (Ash'ari)

Kuwait:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Qatar:  Hanbali Sunni Islam (Athari)

Oman:  Ibadi Wahbi Islam (Mu'tazila)

UAE:  Malikite Sunni Islam (Athari)

Bahrain:  Twelver Jafari Shi'a (Ithna'Ashariyya)
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I fucking hate islamo-sandniggers
momo the chomo (police and military be upon him)
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>>1812 (OP) 

>Bbbbbbbbbbbbbased !!!!!!!!!

Texas Governor Abbott Declares CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Groups:
https://archive.is/rRGSq

Texas Governor Abbot Designates Largest Muslim Activist Group Foreign Terrorist Organization:
https://archive.is/PIqkK

Texas Governor Abbott Designates Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR as Terrorist Criminal Organizations — Bans Land Ownership in Texas:
https://archive.fo/rJc4N




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Islam is getting collapse finally.
islam is temporary Jesus is eternal
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Islam: The religion of cousin goat fuckers
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>>1839

Ibadi muslims are the equivalent of the Anabaptists of christianity...  

Just as the Mennonites and Amish are the ONLY true christians of Christianity,  the Ibadi are the ONLY true muslims of Islam...

*** NOTE:  not fucking sorry at all if this offends anyone.
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ISLAM:  Historical Foundings & Events

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