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>>588 (OP) 

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My vote a flash cloned Pope Pius IX

The black guy cuz I'm a bit of an accelerationist

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>>591

Rolling


https://en.tempo.co/read/2001712/first-black-pope-contender-ghanas-cardinal-turkson-draws-global-attention

Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost has been elected Pope and has chosen the name Leo X!V.

>>1243
> Everything which is comparable between Celtic languages and Semitic languages is 100% trivial and the result of coincidence.


Not correct.  Go to the link fort an extensive list of entire Welsh phrases that are basically Hebrew with only minor variations in spelling an pronunciation.  
https://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/0105/0105nn.html

There is probably some arabic word that sounds like chicken in English.  I doubt it means chicken though.   That's an example of a meaningless coincidence.  Welsh and Hebrew similarities are not meaningless coincidence.

>>1248
This is really low quality "research". It calls for citations pointing to specific dictionary entries at the very least. I'm not going to go through the list one-by-one, especially since I've seen lists like this before. Many of the comparisons will no doubt be seen as dubious upon careful examination.

Instead I will offer you a simple challenge: Find one word in Welsh comparable to one word in Hebrew while citing any dictionary that we can both see and validate. Even Wiktionary will suffice. Finally, the Welsh word must not have an Indo-European etymology. If the Welsh word is genuinely comparable to any Semitic word but still has an Indo-European etymology, this means the comparison is not with Welsh specifically but the Indo-European family of languages in general.

In any case, the main issue being discussed is the categorization of Welsh. Is Welsh Indo-European? Is it Semitic/Afro-Asiatic? Is it ambiguous or unclear? No, it's clear. Welsh is obviously Indo-European even if you find a stray word or phrase which is comparable to Semitic, because Welsh does not primarily consist of Semitic features. If any specifically Semitic features exist in Welsh uniquely (as opposed to Indo-European languages in general) this can only be a minority feature.

Languages are categorized according to the most commonly used words, kinship terms, morphology, syntax

>>1248
>>1249
I will give an example just so you understand I am not being skeptical merely for the sake of skepticism.
One of the comparisons given on that webpage is
>Welsh aml
>Hebrew hamale

First of all, there's no reason to believe aml is not an Indo-European word. See here where it is suggested that it ultimately comes from Latin am plus:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aml

This being the case, if there is a genuine connection with Hebrew hamale—however distant—there is no reason to single out Welsh here.
Another issue is the citation form of the Hebrew word. I do not know Hebrew, so I do not feel obliged to figure out how to spell it correctly on your behalf in order that it can be found in a search engine or modern dictionary. So if a Hebrew word is given, it should ideally be cited in the Hebrew alphabet so anyone can copy and paste it into a search engine or it should be given in a standardized Romanization scheme so that the exact Hebrew spelling can be reconstructed. (Is it a plene or defective spelling?)

The list which contains 

>>1253
Furthermore, I would like you to know that I am by no means allergic to long range comparisons in principle. Allow me to bring your attention to the Proto-Afro-Asiatic root *ʔit- "to eat":
https://starlingdb.org/cgi-bin/response.cgi?single=1&basename=%2fdata%2fsemham%2fafaset&text_number=1901&root=config
This root is reconstructed through
>Western Chadic: *ʔyat-
>High East Cushitic: *ʔit-

The Afro-Asiatic root is comparable to the Proto-Indo-European root *h1ed- */ʔed-/ "to eat":
https://starlingdb.org/cgi-bin/response.cgi?single=1&basename=%2fdata%2fie%2fpiet&text_number=1323&root=config
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%81ed-

While the comparison is valid in my personal opinion, many linguists don't want anything to do with

>>1233
>We know the 10 lost tribes went somewhere.
This guy, Archaix, seems to have it all mapped out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmEoM2ALD7A

>>1138

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.


Luke 14:26

>>1140
As much as the literal sense of this verse is retarded, there are ways to tenably understand it philosophically when you look at the rest of chapter 14.
In this context and also for the binding of Isaac (equally literally anti-family), it's the willingness to sacrifice everything that permits universal understanding and freedom. Being willing to give up everything (and to fully understand the value of what you might lose) makes you more, not less, capable of preserving what is, even if you're never actually required to give it all up. It's purely dispositional. 
This is just the sandbox phrasing of the principle of least interest and prioritizing objective reality above all. 
Those who strive to understand things-in-themselves (and overcome the self) are categorically more capable of manipulating reality than those that are unable to do so.

>>606 (OP) 
>Eveyone who heckin makes fun of magic skydaddy is a fed
STFU CHRISTCUCK LMAO

>>1159
it's not 2008 anymore bucko. Christopher Hitchens is dead and Dawkins has converted to Christianity.

>>1169
Indeed

>>1147
From the traditional Catholic understanding, the Jews must be kept around until they repent of their own free will and accept the true Messiah, Jesus Christ. This means that Catholics cannot harm Jews but neither should they associate with them, being in error.
These are great articles on what Catholics believe (or did prior to Vatican II) on the Catholic relation to the Jews:
https://web.archive.org/web/20051201192011/http://sspx.org/against_the_sound_bites/what_really_is_anti_semitism.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20051219122843/http://www.sspx.org/against_the_sound_bites/mystery_of_the_jews.htm
In short, Catholics *intentionally* keep and have kept the Jews around because in their minds Christ (and his bride the Catholic Church) is the truth and cannot be defeated, even by all the powers of the world. This is official dogma that no one, not even a pope speaking ex cathedra can change. 
To anyone on the outside of the Catholic Church, it looks like they protect Jews. And that's because they do. If you have siblings, it's basically the

>>1149
>The solution is to kill every practitioner of usury along with their bloodline relatives.
>>1152
>I'm not so certain this was intentional or a conspiracy, but the intent doesn't matter. It was suicidal.
Yes, this was what I was getting at. Corruption I meant that the religion was a political tool of control, but not by the pope but by the jews. Otherwise a simple wish to do well that was exploited by the weakest link in the chain until it became common place and brought down the whole land.

Considering that (afaik) Jesus said anyone can talk to god, the whole organised church/papacy is probably a scam but that's probably best left for another thread. This thread claims that the papacy is "the best political structure" unless I've misunderstood, which by the second post I mention, it's clearly a racially suicidal one.

To anyone outside the Catholic Church, it looks like they intentionally prevented Catholics from gaining the advantage over others that being a lender provides while explicitly permitting them to become debtors to non-Catholics.
I'm not so certain this was intentional or a conspiracy, but the intent doesn't matter. It was suicidal.
>It was suicidal.
Very much so. It's the 'if you kill your enemies, they win.' meme come to life, for theists.

>>1155
This is a misnomer. Christians had their own lending institutions, but the lending was structured such as one wasn't giving money out to retards for frivolous things (war) and, secondly, only loaning money to people who could cover the collateral. Christians sought out Jews because Jewish banks because a) they would loan money to complete retards (kind of like today's student loan racket) and b) didn't care if the lender was good for their money. 

Eventually, Catholic lending institutions were simply scuttled as the Jewish owned banks gained precedence over European merchantile trade.

>>907 (OP) 
Bump for discussion. There are a lot of so-called "Conservatives" on this board who aren't functionally grounded in their understanding of where morality originates, what makes a government "righteous", what makes society wholesome, etc.

>>441
Taking proverbs literally is an actual sign of low IQ.

>>443
It's not a proverb. A proverb is a story meant to communicate a lesson. This is from the Sermon on the Mount and is a set of direct commands, not a story.

>Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
What interpretation do you have of this that doesn't mean meekly assisting your attackers?

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Muslim here
In classical Arabic, which is close to Aramaic, many expressions that would translate to "turning to the side", "looking sideways" or "giving one's side/flank" are meant to convey coldness. It's like turning away from someone and not looking at them, which symbolizes a general attitude of animosity but not quite open hostility.
I am not saying this from a position of authority, I'm just giving my personal perspective on this, but it always made more sense to me that the message meant to teach the hebrews under Roman occupation not to smile to oppressors, figuratively speaking.

This would be consistent with a less hippie image of Christ (peace be upon him), and more of a monotheist encouraging rebellion against idolaters.
Walking the extra mile seems like it follows a similar principle: because Romans would sometimes use legalities to show the occupied that they could effortlessly ruin their day, walking the extra mile could be a way of re-raising and flexing that even 2 miles wouldn't be a problem. It seems to me like a way of defending against demoralization from oppressors. So if a Roman wants to take only a shirt from you, give him everything as if acquiring it again wouldn't even register as an effort.

>>440
>>441
>The Lord Shall Provide.
my frens, this is a difficult thing to explain. When you truly walk with God, he protects you, he provides for you, he will move mountains and divide the waters for you. A man who does not walk with God cannot understand this. A man who does not walk with God can experience this, but may misinterpret God's actions as merely miraculous, coincidence, or a stroke of luck. When you truly understand, you know that no matter what he is with you as you are with him. A poor man taking your coat does not know God as you do, but God just the same uses you to provide for him while still retaining judgement for the actions of that man. For you who gave the man your coat, if be all you want is the coat returned, then returned it shall be tenfold. If a man who does not walk with God strikes you, whether it be out of rage or anger or whatever, to turn the other cheek to the man shall reveal God to him. As God's children, this is our purpose. As God revealed himself to his children through Exodus, he revealed himself to the world by the death of his son. Some things you cannot always see, but certainly just the same, some things can never be unseen. 
It's not if you know, you know, rather once you know, you know. Now for those who do know and still hate him, they may stand against you, but only because the

>>128 (OP) 
Turn the other cheek, not bend over and give your asshole to your enemy.

>>498
Ask Satan. Only gnostics, pagans, jews and satanists do that.

So i didn't read every post here yet, but i'm gonna post this anyways.
The Eunuchs were a cult that worshiped Lucifer. Yes, literal Flesh born Lucifer. The story has many many many variations as it began in the Tower of Babel and as the story goes, they were divided by language and the story became many different stories. Probably the most widely known characters would be Osiris, Isis and Horus. Horus is Lucifer. Osiris is Nimrod. Isis is Semiramis who before becoming the Queen of heaven was a Barmaid. The Catholic religion still holds these figures in literature as Janus(Nimrod), Cybele(Semiramis) and Attis(Lucifer).
So according to the book of Jasher, Nimrod saw Esau while out hunting and pursued him out of jealousy (for later speculation) and ended up getting his head chopped off.
According to Egyptian stories, Osiris's brother Set chops him into pieces.
Semiramis, who is now viewed to her people as the Venus Star, or Morning star, or Eastern Star(Ishtar, Astarte, blah blah blah barmaid) convinced her subjects that she had a magic vagina, and as the mother of Heaven, she could reincarnate her now dead husband with her magic vag, so long as she had all the pieces to reassemble his body, but a fish ate Nimrod's penis, so one was fashioned out of Silica and she used that to impregnate herself with the spirit of Nimrod. 7 months later, baby Lucifer was born.
Now with the Roman Pagan worshiping weirdo's, the story is even weirder. When Lucifer had grown, and inquired who h

>>23 (OP) 
Kek was jesus the first trans right supporter?

>>1217
Read post above, lucifer was the first m2f trans and he died from it

>>1206
Sounds similar to the theory that yahwee is a castrated god. 

>The Occult Meaning Behind Newborn Circumcision

https://youtu.be/8rmtZju9OVI

Also, "Gentile" or "Goy" simply translates to "Nation"

This is the same word YHVH used in Abraham's promise of his seed becoming many nations.

So in today's context, compared to how "jews" and their shabbos use it... the word "gentile" and "goyim" also really don't mean anything either.

>>1211
Saying something is incorrect does not make it incorrect. The Jews today are not and do not share DNA with the descendants of Israel unless they are related to Esau. That is as close as they get. Where does it say who Esau's kids were? To the best of my knowledge it is unmentioned. The closest thing I found to potential offspring of Esau would be Lucifer, the bastard son of Semiramis, which would have been why Nimrod pursued him out of jealousy according to the book of Jasher. 

Furthermore, Eve was never seduced by sex. The serpent IS the planet Saturn. Also, Adam and Wve were not made on day 6, men and women were. Adam and eve came after the day of rest. Re-read Genesis chapter 1 and 2.

>>43 (OP) 
Oy vey that’s some early life page Jesus has.

>>517
So If the jews of Jesus’s time where not the same as today then why do people today still blame modern jews ancestors for killing jesus? You can’t have it both ways it’s either one or the other.

>>1216
Lurk more kiketroll, you've been answered already in this thread.

>>1180
The events of the Great Tribulation start with a great falling away, not a revival.  One could argue that's already happened.  The once formerly Christian West, is now almost completely heathen again.    The first three books of Revelation tell us how Jesus is going to get the party started.  And he does it, not by slapping around satanists and degenerates.  He starts it off, by slapping the stupid out of us.   His own people, to instill some discipline, at long last, to a bunch of soft, backslidden followers.   That's going to cause even more to walk away if anything.  So I suspect that if you're hoping for a great revival, you're going to be greatly disappointed.  

But...

Those who are left, and those who join, in possibly ever increasing numbers later, will be of the finest quality.   Not quantity, quality.  A sifting process will go on the entire time.  Eventually it won't be possible to fence sit anymore.  Both quantity and quality will rise.  But not before a lot of very dark days.  

Don't expect too much and you won't have to be demoralized.  The victory will come, but you have to realize it won't come cheap or easy.  You'll have to work hard for it.  That's the best advice I can give you.

>>1196
>The events of the Great Tribulation start with a great falling away, not a revival
I suggest you read Josephus regarding the great falling away and the horrors of the siege - the woman offering looters the half eaten carcass of her infant son is the first thing that comes to my mind.  one well versed in 1st century history from the multiple contemporary sources cannot help but to think "this reads like the NT apocalypses".  
Again, I *do* believe that something is going to occur in the future along the lines of these "prophecies" (which were self fulfilling because they were written after the fact) but what will happen will be contrived by the elites.  The question you should ask yourself is this - after refusing the mark are you going to fight bis zum todt or are you going to wait for jesus to come down from the clouds and do your fighting for you?  if your answer is the latter then they win - game over

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>>1131 (OP) 
>filthy child of Satan kikes trying to set fire to an olive orchard owned by Palestinians
Isn't that a yearly tradition that has been going on for years? you would think they'd git gud at it eventually

>>1160
kys LARPgan

>>1197
I think a lot of that first century preterist stuff comes from one single Bible verse, and it's misunderstood.  

>Matt 24:34  this generation shall not pass away until all thses things take place.

Jesus got finished relaying a laundry list of things that will happen at the end of days.  When he finished with that, he wasnt saying, all you people here today listening to me will not die before these things happen.   he was saying the people way in the future who see these things happen  will not be gone until it's all over.  It happens all within the lifespan of a generation of people.  But not those people who were there that day.    Preterism ticks off virtually none of the boxes of Revelation.  No mark of the beast, no 1000 year anything, no meteors falling from the sky sinking huge number of boats.  What's in Revelation, simply didn't happen in 70AD, and the years following.

>>1202
The more brazen the kikes get, the more careless they get also.  When kikes are scurrying around in the dark trying not to get caught, they make good plans.  When they no longer feel the need to make good plans, they don't.  I think that's what we're seeing here, in the year 2025.  Just exactly what your picrel suggests.  Pure thoughtless stupidity.

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TOKIMUNE’S THING BELOW THE NAVEL

At the outbreak of war in the first year of Ko¯an (1278) Tokimune visited Bukko¯ and gave the Katzu! shout of dashing straight forward. Priest Gio¯ said: ‘The general has got something great below his navel, so the shout too is great.'

The Field of the Elixir (tanden, the energy-center an inch below the navel) of Taoist doctrine was called in the Szechuan dialect Shii-ku-ii-mo, "the thing under the navel." Gio¯ was a priest from Szechuan who had come with Daikaku to Kencho¯ji in Japan, and in praising the greatness of Ho¯jo¯
Tokimune’s tanden energy, he used this Szechuan phrase.

(Like many remarks of the Chinese priests, it was transcribed into Chinese characters, and the Japanese, not knowing the colloquial Szechuan phrase, took it in a literal sense – Translator)

One of the regent’s ministers, Masanori, when he came to know what Gio¯ had said, asked him indignantly: ‘When did Your Reverence see the size of what our lord has below his navel?’
The priest said: ‘Before the general was born, I saw it.’
The courtier did not understand.
The priest said: ‘If you do not understand the greatness of what is below the general’s navel, then see through to before you yourself were born, the greatness of the thing below the navel. How would that thing become greater or less by the honour or contempt of high or low?’
The courtier was still more bewildered.
The priest gave a Katzu! shout and said: ‘Such is the voice of it, of that thing.’

The only Buddhist I ever met, that I know of told me it's a philosophy, not a religion.  She was a friend of an old boss.  She was from Thailand.  A very old lady.  I guess she was a very famous artist there.  She showed me pictures of her apartment.  it was like the greatest museum of Asian history you'd ever set foot in.  Incredible.  I remember her pointing to a sword in a glass case.  She said the sword was evil because it killed people.  Which kind of didn't make sense.  Evil is a religious concept, which she claimed Buddhism wasn't.  Maybe there's a lot of nuances to it.  Maybe she wasn't entirely Buddhist.  I don't know.

>>1145
If evil means merely just taking a life, then i can see what she meant if thats what it is.

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No. 26. BENZAITEN OF ENOSHIMA
Doi Yorimune came up to Mizugaoka and visited Mugaku (Bukkō), a general of the Zen sect, and asked about the worship of Benzaiten (goddess of prosperity) of Enoshima Island. He recalled how on the fifth day of the fourth month of the second year of Yōwa (1182), the Minamoto general Yoritomo had been strolling on the beach at Namigoe on the way to Enoshima, and there had met the holy man Bungaku who was a devotee of Benzaiten. He said he would pray for the general’s success in arms, and arrangements were made for sacrificial ceremonies, and the erection of a stone torii. This was, he added, really with the motive of exorcising the curse pronounced by Fujiwara Hidehara (on the Minamotos). He concluded: ‘I have brought a picture of the blessing being conferred by Benzaiten.’

The teacher said: ‘The devotee of Benzaiten prayed to Benzaiten for the military glory of the Minamoto general, and to avert the curse of the other general of those days – is that a male divinity or a female?’ 

Doi said: ‘Whether Benzaiten is a god or a goddess, I do not know. I only know that the form in the picture here is a goddess.’ 

The teacher said: ‘So you go by the form. I suppose you would think that a woman warrior dressed in man’s clothes would be a man?’ 

Doi said: ‘Well then, is Benzaiten a male dressed as a female?’ 

The teacher replied: ‘Do you worship Benzaiten as a god or do you worship Benzaiten as a goddess?’ 

Doi said: ‘The reason I worship is nothing to do with whether it is a god or a goddess. I just pray for my welfare.’