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There is a popular meme spread by feds around the internet that goes by a number of different names: "Christfag", "Christcuck", "Abrahamism", which alleges that Christianity is a Jewish ploy to defang the gentiles. Unfortunately, the only conspiracy is that the CIA/FBI has spent the past 70 years infiltrating seminaries, blackmailing priests, using Catholic church NGO's to wash their money, etc. The same feds trafficking children now want to ensure that their only political resistance: true Christians- not the effiminized and faggy/captured Protestants- are unable to organize with each other to form a resistance.

Paganism isn't a solution- it proposes nothing beyond being that which Christianity isn't. Paganism lacks ontological arguments, it lacks any sort of coherent metaphysics, it lacks any and all theological foundations found by the other "real" faith traditions. Instead, paganism is whatever the user base wants it to be- one day they are hugging trees and acting like homosexuals, the next they are pretending that Wicca is a masculine virtue and "based". The next they are larping as Thor because they are literally so retarded they believe Marvel comic book characters are their gods. Pagans insult Christianity because apart from quoting Nietzsche or Evola, they have no real arguments to speak of and frankly are an embarassment to themselves and others.
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>>32794
Get this shitty thread off into /r/.
>>32797
Fed detected. Did I hurt your wittle fee fees?
>>32797
This is political as feds have infiltrated each and every seminary across the United States and are using Christianity as their sock puppet to push their various agendas. Anyone who cares about the USA, even pagan retards or feds such as yourself, should be concerned with this issue. Literally nothing else matters more to the survival of the European people other than ridding Christianity of subversive agents.
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>>32799
Denounce the Talmud, affirm that Israel is a genocidal welfare apartheid state with an illegal nuclear arms program, and state that the Protocols of Zion are an accurate reflection of international jewish behavior.
>>32794
Why is atheism not enough?  I know many of them are shitlib cucks, but those of them on the right tend to be pretty based.  Ethnonationalism, banning faggotry, and traditional gender roles can all be derived secularly from world view that starts with evolution and prioritizes the health of society to improve the organism.
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>>32801
Well, in my personal opinion, Atheism represents a type of intellectual laziness which fails to address a number of questions. The easiest ones you are already familiar with: ontological realism and the origins of morality, existence of virtue, etc. What you may not be familiar with is the argument for God by the existence of objective truth. Simply put, if God does not exist, objective truth cannot exist, making this entire conversation a meaningless exercise in intellectual masturbation.

Now, you might argue that "muh science is muh truth", but that's not what I'm arguing here. I'm saying, what IS "truth" as a thing. What are things like "numbers" since we cannot perform an experiment on them, nor can we see them? If numbers are simply "social constructs" or "imagined" why do they have structure which is coherent and correspondent? If numbers are simply "calculation tools", why do they model reality so precisely? 

You see, Atheists are intellectually lazy midwits. Sure, they've read Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens, but they are unread on Pythagorus, Plotinus, Lamblicus and Plato. In fact, they are so profoundly ignorant or intellectually dishonest, that they wouldn't understand how Pythagorus, Plotinus, Lamblicus and Plato pertain to the arguments they are attempting to construct. 

You see, all of these Atheist ideas were thought of thousands of years ago but are simply easily dismissed when one asks the right questions. Specifically, what is truth, what are numbers, what is the difference between quantity and quality, where does such distinction arise? Where does truth exist as a "thing" which is real, and if it does not exist as a thing (instead of simply being imagined) how can that be? 

Simply put, numbers exist in a metaphysical realm beyond our mortal plane. This may be easily known by simply studying how numbers behave (complex numbers, transcendental numbers, infinitesimal quantities, etc.) The existence of such a metaphysical plane and the structure of numbers suggests a divine "orderer" of reality who may be known as we know numbers themselves to be true despite being unable to point to one running around in the forest. As numbers and shapes seem to be the projections or "shadows" of our material reality, we may come to understand the divine by considering the emmanations of divine, things such as "virtue", prosperity, the hypercomplexity of our material world, "evil", etc. 

Atheists are reductionist midwits who are so profoundly stupid they have zero ability to even contemplate such ideas. In fact, words are wasted on these individuals because like jews being called out for their lies and crimes, it's water off of a duck's back. The Atheist always has an intellectual lazy fallback "nuh uhhhhhh" and "nice argument, but only science is real".
>>32799
>This is political because I say so 
faggot sage
>>32801

To prove the existence of metaphysics one needs only to examine a number of arguments from a logic perspective:

"The only truth is that which is material"

"The only truth is that derived by science"

Both of these statements are false in logic, because the statement in and of itself is immaterial i.e. words in the air. Similarly, words on a page or not science, and so, to the extent that truth is true, the thing referred to as "truth" is itself untestable by the scientific method as it simply exists but isn't part of the material reality. 

From these two questions one may realize a number of facts about reality.

1) There are more categories of truth apart from those derived by science

2) There exists a metaphysicsl dimension to our reality which must extend beyond that which our eyes can see. Thus, being that we are material creatures, all knowable truths are simply beyond our grasp. 

Thus, one may simply accept the existence of God from the perspective of rational skepticism, which is to say, one may reject Atheism simply by being a skeptic about the ability of humans to absolutely rule out the possibility of God. 


Lamblicus and Plato go further, they go on to describe how numbers suggest a metaphysical structure to reality and given that magic is very real, defies our understanding of science and rationality, yet does work, such a structure suggests the existence of God, who would be the source of magic as well as numbers.
>>32813
Did you switch your VPN fed?
>>32813
Politics and religion are the same thing you midwit retard. Look up "civic religion" then go swallow a gallon of bleach so that we may rid our board of someone as dumb as yourself.
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>>32819
It's interesting you still have not been able to do this:
>>32800
I'm further right of Julius Evola, and I guarantee more religious than you, by the way.
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>>32794
faggot this is the only chan I know that has a /religion/ board.
Get the fuck off my board nigger
>>32832

NOOOO   MY FEEBLE MIND CAN'T COMPREHEND THAT LAWS EXIST IN THE HEARTS OF MEN.... MY SIMPLISTIC UNDERSTANDING AS A SECULARIST HAS BEEN SHATTERED!!!
>>32838
no
seriously
this is the politics board
fuck off
>>32839
No seriously, what is politics apart from an extension of your religious worldview? You sir are a midwit.
>>32839
"I MAKE MY OWN REALITY HURRRRRRRR STOP IT STOP TELLING ME CHRIST IS KING. STOP TELLING ME TO PUT DOWN THE PORNBOX AND EMBRACE DEATH!!!! I WILL SMOKE THE HERBAL JEW LIKE A GOOD LITTLE JUNKIE !!!!
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>>32842
>Seething this hard in your own thread
Anon stop embarrassing yourself
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you speak like someone who doesn't understand objective reality
>>32843
STOP IT STOP IT WAAAAAAHHHH 

Did I trigger you fed?
>>32843
Your politics are just a thin veneer to desguise your will to power and ideas pertaining to what constitutes the salvation of man. Prove me wrong: Pro-tip, you can't.
>>32844
lol, I don't have anything to do with this place and I can tell you're going to get a ban
Have a nice break over on shit party
>>32846
because you're a fed
>>32818
>classic jew deflection 
<2 (you)s for my single reply 
touched a nerve didn't I
faggot 
sage
>>32848
isn't this fag unbelievably shizo?
sage
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>>32794
BASED AND BEN SHAPIRO PILLED
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ONLY WORSHIPING JEWS WILL FREE US FROM ZIONIST JEWISH RULE
>>32810
>What you may not be familiar with is the argument for God by the existence of objective truth. Simply put, if God does not exist, objective truth cannot exist, making this entire conversation a meaningless exercise in intellectual masturbation.
I will acknowledge that believing truth exists requires a degree faith.  To trust that a brain created by the forces of natural selection is giving you meaningful data does require faith.  But I do not see how God has to exist for truth to be real.  Especially the God of the Bible.  The entire story of the Bible stops making sense with evolution for which there is an overwhelming amount of evidence (fossil record, genetics, the telomere sequence in the middle chromosome 2, mitochondrial similarities to bacteria, ect) Why would Jesus need to die for original sin if creation story in Genesis is false?
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Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef said that rich people can't go to heaven so we should give all our money to jews. They sure will regret it in two more millennia when Rabbi Yeshua comes back!
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>>32857
Jesus fucking christ OP stop being a faggot
This thread is political.

One of the ways you destroy a society it to undermine its unifying religion.
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>>32859
What you LARPagans need to understand is that jews are YHWh's chosen people and if you don't give them whatever they want, Rabbi Yeshua will burn you in magic lava forever.
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If you kill your enemies, they win. That's why it's crucial that you turn the other cheek and never oppose evil.
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>>32862
Seriously, fag. Come back after reading:
https://ourchan.org/r/thread/152.html

Do you realize there is no difference between your sperging and the kneejerk reactions of leftists. Get off the pot.
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>>32868
Agreed entirely. The best way to defeat jews is worshiping their god and giving them whatever they want.
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Why haven't you castrated yourself yet? YHWH will burn you in hell for eternity for touching your own wiener because he loves you so much.
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THE TRVUE ARYAN RELIGION IS PHILOSEMETIC
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The Big Book of Schitzoid Jew Scribbles says that jews were red white and blue and then turned black which is %100 unfalsifiable proof that the original jews were White and the original Whites were jews.
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>>32870
https://ourchan.org/r/thread/23.html

Go for a walk skitzo-spammer. You obviously will not look at any contradictions to your emotionally stunted lib-cuckery. Come back when you're rational.
>>32868
I find many of the points in this post lacking.
>Daily reminder that Jews hate and fear Christianity more than almost anything else: just watch Bill Maher or Rachel Maddow.
Ben Shepario and other cuck love Christianity.

>Daily reminder that Jesus is the silver bullet that kills Clown World.
Then why did Clown World emerge from a Christian society?

>Daily reminder that Christianity is the cure for the purity spiralling of ethnonationalism.
Christians aren't immune to this.  Look at all the different sects.  And if you are suggesting that we should believe simply because it is useful that is not something non-believers can do.  A noble lie has to be believable and as I said earlier the whole religion of Christianity falls apart with evolution which has too much evidence to ignore.
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>>32877
Silence, LARPagan! You're just mad because jew god loves me more than you because I'm a good goy.
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I just cannot wait to go to jew heaven with all of my nigger brothers in christ!
Paganism was always the true belief system. OP just continues the long-standing hatred plebs have for free humans.
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>>32878
You do know that most of your nonsense was already addressed here:
https://ourchan.org/r/thread/152.html

Come back after reading it all with a coherent contra-argument. Stop embarrassing yourself with spergery.
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I'm so glad that jew god came down from heaven as rabbi yeshua so he could kill himself as a sacrifice to himself to change a law he himself made so we goyim don't all have to burn in hell.
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>>32888
>we wuz da reel 60 IQ sandniggas n shieeeet
B-B-BASED
>>32888
>cntl f "evolution"
1 result >>316 not even about the theory of evolution 
>cntl f "darwin"
Zero results.

I believe point 2 and 3 are related.  The story isn't believable anymore and the flaw is so glaringly obvious that even midwits can point it out.  Most people are midwits.  The story has to be believable to midwits.
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Us real jews (jacob isaacson david bagel shekelites) were genocided by the jewish polytheist Roman Empire (satanic canaanite edom hannukah goyim). Which proves that paganism is a jewish psyop.
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>>32890
Do you kikes unironically believe that jessus was one of you rats and that you somehow invented Christianity even though your talmudic cult arose much later?
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>>32890
Keep a coherent narrative, earlier you were calling everyone larpagans.
>>32891
You seriously still believe in neo-darwinism? Are you a materialist? That died with the fedora-tippers.
>>32895
> Citing Josephus
The oldest writing attributed to that figure are carbon dated to the 9th or 14th century CE. 
No serious historian would ever cite such trash.

> Using the term Cannanite in any seriousn historical discussion
Nothing in the Levant region was ever called Cannan, which is why only you jews use it.
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>>32894
Jesus wasn't a jew. We just born in Judea (land of the jews), worshiped the jewish god, was circumcised according to jewish tradition, spoke the same language as jews, adhered to jewish dietary laws, was a rabbi, was called king of the jews, and taught jewish scripture. NOTHING JEWISH ABOUT HIM YOU LARPAGANS!
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The bible is a beautiful piece of literature that could only have been produced by TRVE ARYANS. Therefore jews were the real whites.
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>>32895
>You seriously still believe in neo-darwinism? 
What am I supposed to say to chromosome 2 or the similarities of mitochondria to bacteria or the fossil?  What obnoxious redditors believe it so that means it's false?  Redditors probably believed that water is necessary for life.  That doesn't make the belief wrong.  This evidence is too strong for you to ignore or dismiss so you have try to associate it with reddit.  The fact that you don't have explanations for this is the problem.
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>>32898
Good to know anon. I'm not the kike-sperger.

>>32899
As for you.
>>32899
>Jesus wasn't a jew
Correct, he wasn't a kike, as your talmudic cult had yet to created at the time. 
> land of the jews
No such thing, you kikes have no true homeland.
> worshiped the jewish god,
Jessus didn't worship money.

Shlomo, is your entire argument based around semantics?
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>>32901
There's plenty of evidence of micro-evolution. A dog becoming a wolf. There is zero evidence of a dog becoming a bird, or even a cat, which is macro-evolution. The genetic fixation rates are hilariously impossible, the process of genetic decay entirely falsifies darwinistic evolution, the dating processes used are wholly unreliable. You might as well believe in climate change.
>>32794
You fuckers. This is /pol/
>>32905
It's been reported, just waiting for the mods to take action.
The entire basis for kike claims to having created Christianity is based around pure semantics.
Kikes call themselves jews and they desperately try to associate Jessus with that label.
The reality is that kikes and their talmudic cult arose well after Christian, kikes bear no cultural, genetic or even theological relation to jessus.
It's all just pure semantic distortion.
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>>32902
Not reading your mental gymnastics. It was fun ruining you faggotty sandnigger worship thread tho. I'm going to go do something else now.
>>32903
Let me make this simpler for you, christcuck. Jewsus was a sandnigger. I don't give a fuck which particular breed of sandnigger he was, he was a sandnigger and I hate him based on that fact alone.
>>32909
See how the kikes run at the slightest opposition. Only kikes try to cause division at every opportunity. Go on littlest chickenhawk, go back to your masters and tell them to hero.
>>32904
>There is zero evidence of a dog becoming a bird, or even a cat, which is macro-evolution. 
Really?  Chromosome 2 looks like pretty good evidence and it isn't the evidence of it's.  Donkeys and horses have a similar thing going on.

>The genetic fixation rates are hilariously impossible, the process of genetic decay entirely falsifies darwinistic evolution
How do you figure that?
>>32911
Didn't you say you were going to do something else? Go start a thread in /r/. Git.
>>32912
I did not say anything of the sort.  Check my ID.  >>32909 is a different poster.
I see that you can't defend against these points and that is the problem.  Your religion falls apart with evolution.  You have to believe all the biologists are in a huge conspiracy and that any technology based off of these theories is literal witchcraft to maintain your belief system.  That's hard sell.  When the evidence is so strong that midwits can realize the problem the belief system is doomed.  A noble lie has to be believable by midwits.
>>32913

BACTERIA
Years: 3,800,000,000
Years per generation: 0.000071347 (37.5 mins per generation)
Generations per fixed mutation: 1600
Years per fixed mutation: 0.114
Maximum fixed mutations: 33,288,000,916

Source: Sequencing of 19 whole genomes detected 25 mutations that were fixed in the 40,000 generations of the experiment.
NATURE, 2009

NOTE: These 25 mutations were fixed in parallel. The 1600 generations per fixed mutation represent an average. So, the appeal to massive parallel propagation is already accounted for, at least with regards to observed fixation in bacteria.

MAMMALS
Years: 200,000,000
Years per generation: 4.3
Generations per fixed mutation: 1600
Years per fixed mutation: 6880
Maximum fixed mutations: 29,070

NOTE: the bottom number represents the maximum number of fixed mutations from Morganucodontid to Homo sapiens sapiens.

CHLCA
Years: 9,000,000
Years per generation: 20
Generations per fixed mutation: 1600 (Note: 8170 generations fastest Y-chromosomal lineage observed and extrapolated.)
Years per fixed mutation: 32000
Maximum fixed mutations: 125

NOTE: the 9 million represents the latest average estimate for the Chimpanzee-Human Last Common Ancestor, which estimate has ranged from as little as 4 million years on the basis of the molecular clock to 25 million years.

Now, the primary problem with the appeal to parallel gene propagation is that it requires a minimum of 15,000,000 mutations to become fixed in the human population, and another 15,000,000 mutations to become fixed in the chimpanzee population, and to do so in an amount of time that permits 125 fixed mutations in series.

In other words, there must be 120,000 genes simultaneously fixing throughout the entire population in parallel at all times, and the same process has to happen TWICE. This does not strike me as credible, even if we don’t bother questioning the claim that the observed genetic differences between human and chimpanzee lie on a spectrum and that not all humans will possess the 15 million mutations that separate Homo sapiens sapiens from Pan troglodytes and that not all chimpanzees possess the additional 15 million mutations that separate Pan troglodytes from Homo sapiens sapiens.

Or, to put it more simply, there have been 450,000 chimp and human generations since the CHLCA. Based on the number of mutations observed fixing in parallel in the Nature study, that would permit 562 total fixed mutations in that time frame. Which is only 29,999,438 short of the approximate number observed.
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>>32856
I think that you've probably grown up around too many Protestants/midwit Catholics. The bible is not a book that is meant to be read like the sports section of the newspaper, or some sort of historiographical record. What makes the bible challenging is precisely because it is part mysticism, part history, part allegory/metaphor. 

For example, one cannot possibly read the John 15 "1
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman." and claim with a straight face that Jesus is literally a grape vine and God is literally a farmer. Yet, many Protestants claim that the bible is LITERALLY VERBATIM an historical account (solo scriptura). It is only through the cultural lens of the ancient Greek/Aramaic people of the 1st century may we begin to interpret this sentence in its original context. Then, the church as an institution has historically interpreted specific passages a particular way. 

So, for Protestants, dogma originates from the bible, but for real Christians this is the reverse process. Dogma exists as a divine succession of information compiled over the centuries, which, we then use the bible as a metaphysiczl guide to interpret. 

For example, the ban on homosexuality may seem to be just a cultural relic of Christianity, but if one understands that both the Persian and Roman empires collapsed during periods where homosexuality was rampant, that this was precisely why Christianity took over the empire during the 3rd and 4th centuries, then all of history begins to make sense.
>>32913
As to chromosome 2. It was either a freak accident or proof of the work of God. I am inclined to believe the latter and that humans never evolved from apes, though they were made from the same rough blueprint and there is certainly the issue of cross-species genetic contamination.
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>>32917
Wow this thread is so political
this single post managed to mention happenings, political parties, resource speculation, political figures, historical figures, scandals, policies, trade regulations, and elections.
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oh wait....
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actually none of that was in there.
>>32917
This is why the orthodox church operates on the three pillars of holy tradition. The rites and liturgy, the writings of the church fathers, and the word of the Word.

>>32921
“I never discuss anything else except politics and religion. There is nothing else to discuss.”
― G.K. Chesterton

This thread is admittedly out of place, please do report it to the jannies. I have multiple times.
>>32916
You understand that bacteria have different DNA repair and gene silencing mechanism than bacteria.  We can expect those rates to be very different.  Can you link to where you are getting this information so I can see the full context?  I'm not going to bitch if it is from creationscience.com or whatever.  I want to see what the full argument is and how they got those numbers and how they accounted for gene silencing and DNA repair mechanisms.
>>32856
Said another way, the Christian dogma is very similar to many other faith traditions, in the sense that all men regardless of cultural background, have access to God. Or, that God makes himself known to men at different places in time throughout the history of humanity. Christianity uses the bible as an objective way to ground "the faith" in a historical tradition which predates itself, and through this process, makes its goal apparent: Christ is the spiritual fulfullment of Israel- Israel being a metaphor for the human spirit which begins life in a broken/fallen state. The 12 disciples of Jesus metaphorically mirror the 12 tribes of Israel, each one representing different spiritual states of man before the attainment of "Christ consciousness" or Xristos (the word "Christ" being an honorific play on words which is only known to those who speak Greek and/or understand the true message of the bible).
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>>32923
the mods here are better than jannies, but they're always asleep. I think they're Spanish.
We shouldn't call them jannies- but "el custodio" (translators note: el custodio means Jannie)
>>32921
Whether you midwits like it or not, all of American law and legal principles are informed by the Protestant rejection of Catholic legal/government structures which were in place throughout Europe. So, to understand the problems of America, one must examine the philosophical axioms accepted as "true" by the American people and determine why such axioms caused our current situation to play out. 

I know, because your brain doesn't work properly, you lack the ability to connect with abstract metaphysical ideas and/or examine the spiritual state of either yourself or those around you. I feel sorry for men such as yourself, you live life in a schizophrenic fuge unaware of how to fix your own problems, much less those of others. I truly pray that God may provide you enlightenment someday.
>>32927
You're just an asshurt fed who's upset that anyone would call them out. Cry harder faggot
>>32919
Why make chromosome 2 look like it came from fused ape chromosomes?  Why do the same thing again with horses and donkeys?
>>32926
Thar doesn't address my issue.  The issue is that your religion doesn't sense with evolution.
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>>32930
let's see, when el custodio wake up what will the ban be...
schizo posting?
off topic?
spam?
hmmmmmmmmmm so many options
>>32934
"religion doesn't make sense with evolution" 

I literally just addressed your point, do you not understand how to read the English language or are you just stupid? I genuinely cannot tell. 

Okay, I will spell it out for those of you with brains that don't work very well: Evolution has nothing to do with Christianity. The idea that evolution exists or does not exist is a non-dogmatic position of the Eastern Orthodox Church.
>>32934
Some Christians vehemently reject the idea od evolution, because for whatever reason they want to place limits on how God works within the Universe. Others mistakenly interpret Genesis as a verbatim historical account, instead of a spiritual or metaphysical commentary on the ontological foundations of the faith. The Eastern Orthodox does not impose on followers the "requirement" to hold a specific belief about the issue of evolution, nor many other issues, because your beliefs are simply a manifestation of your ego and your ego is ultimately pride/vanity. Why does it matter so much to you whether you are right or wrong about evolution? Why does it matter so much to mid-wit Christians wether evolution is true or false? This is all pridefulness and vanity.
>>32941
>Why does it matter so much to you whether you are right or wrong about evolution? 
Because technology based on those principles works and because as I stated earlier the story stops making sense if there is no original sin for Jesus to die for.

>Why does it matter so much to mid-wit Christians wether evolution is true or false?
Because if midwits can point out the flaw here then the religion will start to die as it has been doing across most of the globe.
>>32943
there's an entire board for this you cunt!
>>32924
Yes. The rates for a comparatively simple bacterium in a laboratory setting will be much higher than the rates for a human. 

I'm mostly pulling from Vox Day. You're welcome to go look at his stuff. The basic idea is independent of him and that is: even assuming long-time reality and the most favorable conditions, there just has not been enough time for the observable divergence to occur.

>>32933
The most basic problem with Chromosome 2 is that there is no way that the possessor would be able to have viable offspring. It's just a house of cards.

>>32934
Or darwinistic evolution is wrong and religion is correct. Or even worse, that Darwin was ((( enemy action ))) and a fraud.
>https://mileswmathis.com/darwin.pdf
>>32949
>Vox Day
oh that explains everything.
I can already guess your approximate age range so what the fuck are you doing?
But really, that cretin is more insidious than Ben Shapiro.
Also, again, fuck off
>>32951
That's the first I've heard of that, details?
>>32943
Again, I will try to speak slowly because you are clearly not smart enough: the bible is not a newspaper, you do not read it intending to understand the meaning of the universe.

We can just hold whatever opinions we want to hold on a number of different issues, but when one says something is "true" or "false" in a spiritual sense, they are referring to something being true or false about the spiritual quality of man, or the spiritual quality of the universe. 

"Original sin" is a metaphysical thing, it refers to the question of why there exists a separation between one's soul and God. If God is literally everything (immanent and transcendent) then why are some people born with a higher spiritual level and are able to instantly recognize the existence of god, while others are not? Yet, even those with a higher spiritual level recognize that their consciousness exists separate from that of God, and that the unification with the Godhead (see "divine marriage") is the goal? It is because, for reasons unknown, at the beginning of our material universe, the universe is fragmented between the powers of good and evil and the material world exists as a sort of "proving ground" for the faithful. 

The bible is just a story to communicate the general idea, but how the entire metaphysical process works is obviously beyond human comprehension and will forever be a mystery.
>>32953
did we land on the moon, anon?
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>>32794
Hmmm i wonder why christians don't kill jews then..
>>32960
Because when you realize that there exists a divine spark within every individual, it becomes difficult to justify genocide. Just because the jews are our enemies doesn't give one moral justification to exterminate them.
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>>32962
Yes it does, imbecile, and to say that everyone has a soul sound like justification to "love thy neighbor", even if they are disgusting jew rats
>>32949
>Vox Day
I'll take a look
>The most basic problem with Chromosome 2 is that there is no way that the possessor would be able to have viable offspring.
That isn't true.  There are humans with fused chromosomes who can still reproduce, granted their kids have increased likelihood of disorders like down syndrome.  https://www.healthline.com/health/robertsonian-translocation there are also several species that have different numbers of chromosomes between members of the same species including mammals like house mice and shrews.
>>32794
>>32794


Why do you worship a rabbi?


==

“What do you want me to do for you?” Jesus asked him. The blind man said, (((  “Rabbi,  ))) I want to see.”==

Mark 10:51
>>32965
It's not "love thy neighbor", it's a metaphysical reality. 

What is politics apart from one's pridefulness and ego? The only politics that are important are implementing policies that will free mankind from vice, but even such strategies are ultimately vacuous if the people have embraced vice within their hearts. Defeating the jew is meaningless if such a result means that one becomes the monster. Similarly, if the Jew were to reform himself, even in half measures compared to the Christian, while he will certainly never attain salvation, he/she might have a chance at eventual reform over many generations. 

Of course, I could be wrong, but then again, I don't see any Christians coming together to produce real world solutions either.
>>32955
>you do not read it intending to understand the meaning of the universe.
Then base a world view off of it?

>It is because, for reasons unknown, at the beginning of our material universe, the universe is fragmented between the powers of good and evil and the material world exists as a sort of "proving ground" for the faithful. 
If you don't know why any of this is happening why subscribe to the story of Jesus? 

>The bible is just a story to communicate the general idea
Then why not make a new story?  If it is all metaphorical the same objective could be accomplished with a different story that does not ask us to love our enemies or count niggers as brothers.  A story that has a more believable creation story and doesn't require belief in a coming apocalypse.
>>32956
That is not details or explanation. I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>32960
The romanian genocide of kikes was the only real one in WW2. God calls the Hebrews to clear out the Canaanites, we must finish the job.

>>32966
In all of those cases a fused chromosome is a major net negative. This does not accord with nat. select.

>>32969
Oh, go boil your head in jeet urine.

>>32971
To serve first God, then your family, then your tribe and nation. If a sojourner need help, give it to them and see that they remain a sojourner. If a people constantly go against God and unjustly attack your nation, then it is good to exterminate them.

>>32972
>make a new story
Let's see it.
>>32794




Do you  guys even read the scripture your religion is based on?


 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem  and asked, “Where is the one who has been born (((  king of the Jews?  ))) We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

 Mathew 2:2
>>32962
>Just because the jews are our enemies doesn't give one moral justification to exterminate them.
This is the most pathetic cuck shit I have ever heard.
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>>32799
I'm a Christian, and I'd consider myself a National Socialist, or 3rd Positionist. I agree with your assessment of the internet attacks made by ((( FEDS ))) FEDS & kikes are interchangeable under ZOG. Heck, I'll even raise you one, and include the PRIIMARY PSYOPper in chief, who is absolutely jewish, and was a total damage control fabrication:
Adam Green
He's an entirely fake, fabricated, MOSSAD plant, from the beginning of his YT career creating his bona fides, until now, wormwooding his way into every dissident sphere he can, most notably he, and his little paypig cult were responsible for the original /pol/ raids, after Varg, but before trannies, and bots began shilling, and low effort sliding it all to shit.

So, after saying all of that, I have to just say it. Organized Christian religious institutions are irredeemably cucked, as well as reputationally damaged to the point of no feasibly useful time frame in order to save the White race. That doesn't make it invalid, or hopeless, it's just not going to be our "racial salvation", if anything, vice versa. There's too many fractures, divisions, and clawing them back will take too much time, time the we simply do not have. 

>tl;dr what's your solution?

I don't have one, I just have to say that religion needs to be embodied in the man, not the movement. I think that any, and all infighting is wasting time, at best, a jewish subversion at worst. White men need to start to agree, and work together, we need to cooperate, and become the leaders of ourselves, and our families, and inso doing we will regain strength, and cohesion. Do not argue endlessly with "Fedoras, and Pagans" or other Christians, argue instead, or rather "regulate" antiwhite faggots in your family, help the see the error of their ways, or slam the door (or your fist) in their faces. Times are only going to get rougher, which paradoxically will make this much easier, but not all can be saved, so be prepared to steel your hearts, for our racial survival.
>>32973
Are you coping  with the existential crises of worshiping a rabbi?


Peter said to Jesus, (((  “Rabbi,  ))) it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Mark 9:5
>>32973
>In all of those cases a fused chromosome is a major net negative
Then why is it so common in different rodent and fish populations?  There is a reason it was conserved and it only has to be beneficial once to be passed on.  Simply showing examples here where members of the same species can reproduce.  I understand why that is a problem for you.

>Let's see it.
Stories like that take time.  But I think such a story should start with evolution and emphasize self improvement and improving the tribe as a path to appeasing the divine.
>>32971
I propose TKD and even if I were to be wrong, at least there is one less variable, a big one at that
>>32979
Missing the point.

>>32981
We all want the kike gone, either dead or expelled. A perfectly viable compromise would be to kill all kikes older than 12 and disperse the remnants.
>>32979
Ignore my previous comment please. 

Could I see evidence on the different rodent and fish populations and evidence of widespread, successful reproduction of such cases.
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>>32976
Just because the jews are our enemies doesn't give one moral justification to exterminate them.
>This is the most pathetic cuck shit I have ever heard

Not anon, and not covering for anon, but this looks good on paper, as in as an official platform of an agenda until the jewish boot is of of our neck. Not being a cuck, just a realist, our people are too brainwashed by ZOG to ever sign up for an instant 1488 kill all kikes and nogs movement, and until we can realistically judo flip them to the ground, an wrest control, they will go Samson option on any group espousing such rhetoric, especially if they're a credible threat. Which is why I prefer NoWhiteGuilts ideology, minus Jason (as a spokesman at least).
>>32981
I understand and respect your position. I'll say this: I won't get in the way of those proposing TKD, I just don't believe it's a path to end your suffering on this earth.
>>32986
This is all very true, but the christcuck clearly believes that kikeroaches deserve to live as evidenced by the fact that he tried to justify sparing them with ((( theology ))).
>>32990
You are putting words in my mouth because you are literally too stupid to understand nuance. 

The nuance is this: not all people who go to a synagogue are our enemies, just like not all people who call themselves "Christians" are either true Christians or even allies of Christ. Are jews inferior to Christians? Of course, but that's not a justification for wholesale murder of every man, woman, and child who incidentally happens to be a Jew. 

Should Jews be allowed to worship openly in America? Absolutely not. Should jews be allowed to have citizenship in a Western nation? Absolutely not. Jews should be a second class individual who, like foreigners in general, should be banned from holding office, opening a business, owning land, etc.
>>32990
Oh, go be a hero sperg. You've already demonstrated yourself the be an incoherent rhetorical mess.

>>32992
Nor should jews be allowed to live in a western nation or to practice any of their rites.
>>32993
I would 100% support the relocation of jews to antarctica.
>>32992
>not all people who go to a synagogue are our enemies
Yes they are.
>Are jews inferior to Christians?
You're the kike's golem servants. I fail to see how that makes you superior to them.
>but that's not a justification for wholesale murder of every man, woman, and child who incidentally happens to be a Jew.
Yes it does.
Also, your own god justified them doing it to the canaanites in the old testement, so why does he forbid us to do it to them? It's almost like ((( he ))) favors jews over us.
>>32993
Not an argument.
>>32977
>So, after saying all of that, I have to just say it. Organized Christian religious institutions are irredeemably cucked, as well as reputationally damaged to the point of no feasibly useful time frame in order to save the White race. That doesn't make it invalid, or hopeless, it's just not going to be our "racial salvation", if anything, vice versa. There's too many fractures, divisions, and clawing them back will take too much time, time the we simply do not have. 

1000% agree. Let's devote the rest of this thread to brainstorming ways to fixing this issue. 

What do we do with interracial couples who are sympathetic to our cause? Said another way, is race really a biological issue, or are we speaking of a spiritual issue at hand? 

I believe that we want to save the white race because incidentally, Western whites are the most spiritually advanced people's on Earth. It's the spiritual aspect of white people - those who have not gone down the path of leftism- which is worth saving.
>>32810
> Atheism represents a type of intellectual laziness
You yourself are being intellectually lazy.
> if God does not exist, objective truth cannot exist
Under your mental framework of the world/reality, it cannot exist for other people because you can't see it from your point of view. This is fine, but you seem hostile to atheism in the same way some (literally) butthurt person shits on Christianity because they cannot separate bad experiences of people from the religion. I hope you center yourself, fren.
> If numbers are simply "social constructs" or "imagined" why do they have structure which is coherent and correspondent? If numbers are simply "calculation tools", why do they model reality so precisely?
Because they're an objective truth of our existence. Debatable whether they're an objective truth of the universe but I'd argue that they are.

The religion enjoyer is immunised against all moral dangers. One may call him a zealout, pedophile, brainlet, moralizer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But hit him with respect and a differing opinion and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how mentally injured he is. how he suddenly shrinks back: "I've been proselytized!"
>>32997
The denominational prots are dead. There's no point in trying to reform evangelicals. Our best hope lies with the Sedes and Orthodox. There is also potential withe the Anabaptist and similar.
>>32997
As to the race-mixing issue. Either separate ethnostates could be established, the haplas could be given some sort of 2nd class citizenship, or shipped out of the west. I am also inclined to think that not all haplas are the same. Nigger/White is always bad, but Asian/White works occasionally. Alternatively, if the pop of non-nigger-haplas are low they could be assimilated over time.
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>>32794
Your daily reminder that the OP refused to denounce the Talmud, state anything against Israel, or the Protocols of Zion twice when called out on it. Additionally, after a pause earlier today, a ((( coincidental ))) LARP-pagan-esque post appeared in a different thread with the opposing views of OP. Several threads have since appeared. OP by contrast has done nothing but accuse others of being feds and pagans, despite being proven wrong repeatedly on a thread that belongs in /r/.
>>32985
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-58433-5
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S2079059717040128
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25053180/
https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/pdf/S0169-5347(00)89155-7.pdf
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2010.02191.x
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23874420/
https://academic.oup.com/g3journal/article/15/2/jkae278/7912046
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-76680-4#:~:text=Based%20on%20the%20similar%20DNA,4%2C%20Table%202).&text=Chromosomes%20of%20octoploid%20Russian%20sturgeon,telocentric%20chromosomes%2C%20and%20208%20microchromosomes.&text=Chromosomes%20of%20octoploid%20Siberian%20sturgeon,telocentric%20chromosomes%2C%20and%20205%20microchromosomes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28060676/
The tuco tuco example in particular suggests there might actually be a befit to having karyotype diversity within members of the same species in some cases.
>>33003
One the first ways they'd try to do in the previous cool chan like this. First they tried with national division but it ultimately must have not worked because it quickly stopped. Then there would be great religious debates that were ultimately stymied by being moved from /pol/ to a religion board where people could also enjoy a bit of philosophy on the side. One clear defense is to simply ask "is this divide & conquer." Invariably, it's either a glowie or a buttblasted normie who found their way onto a chan and can't cope with it and so devolves into angry shitposting.
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>>32997
>RACE
Inherently busted framework. Understand, generations have been moving around place to place and spawning with zero considerations. If your summary boils down to skin town, you're gonna look and sound retarded no matter what your argument is.This kills the Christian. Abrahamics are safe from color arguments since they focus more on nation-states, but this holds them back for different reasons. 
Solutions are forbidden imo.
>>33006
You are correct, anon.
>>33003
1pbtid

Not OP, but for the record. I denounce the oral Talmud, the rabbinical worship of Satan, the false state of Isreal, and state that the Protocals of Zion are true in their entirety.

>>33004
Will have a look.

>>33006
The only divisionfags here is the "Christcuck" sperg and you.
The anon who doesn't realize that the jannies know and are fine with this thread may be one.
>>33008
May also be you.

Why are you using a vpn?

>>33007
> I denounce the oral Talmud, the rabbinical worship of Satan, the false state of Isreal, and state that the Protocals of Zion are true in their entirety.
Can you do this?

Could you elaborate?
>>33010
>1pbtid
That's not what 1PBTID means, newnigger.
>May also be you. Why are you using a vpn?
Using a VPN is entirely standard practice, newnigger. I am the one who called you out for not denouncing, many hours ago. To find you still here says more about you then me.
>>32982
Expelled is definitely not enough, look at the fucking shit we are in
>>33010
> I denounce the oral Talmud, the rabbinical worship of Satan, the false state of Isreal, and state that the Protocals of Zion are true in their entirety.
Like that? I studied religions for a hobby, I get your post but I like to comsider more than the big 3.Still, I don't approve of genital mutilation, but I like how forebears would tell their descendants to stick to eating ruminate animal for safety.
>>33010
>>33014
Ah, shit. You aren't OP.
>>33007
My ID changed, is that why I see namefags?
>>33014
Not OP.

>>33015
>kill all kikes older than 12 and disperse the remnants.
This is my position. Also see:
>>32986

>>33018
Yes. Who were you?
>>33010
Just a heads up that there are more examples than what I listed there.  Search the terms karyotype diversity or Chromosome polymorphism and you will find many more examples.
>>33017
>>33019
Apologies, but you are wrong with the 1PBTID. I've been seeing it misused many times over by newfags. This is what 1PBTID means (for fast boards):
<OP drops a baiting thread, with no intention to respond, usually to collect money from the amount of (You)'s to get paid by JIDF or whatever shill company hired them
It's not used against anons within a thread and certainly not on a slow board like this. Doubly so when it's a chan that encourages VPNs.
>>33010
I never mentioned anything about the thread existing in the first place. I just wanted to point out the religionfagging, as opposed to simply being religious and OK with it. D&C is when you try to dismiss entire groups of Ouryans for some label despite the movement not being inherently religious.
>>32986
>Not anon, and not covering for anon, but this looks good on paper, as in as an official platform of an agenda until the jewish boot is of of our neck. Not being a cuck, just a realist, our people are too brainwashed by ZOG to ever sign up for an instant 1488 kill all kikes and nogs movement, and until we can realistically judo flip them to the ground, an wrest control, they will go Samson option on any group espousing such rhetoric, especially if they're a credible threat. Which is why I prefer NoWhiteGuilts ideology, minus Jason (as a spokesman at least).
Samson Option is a meme. All nations will cloak Israel in nuclear hellfire for even attempting such an action. Israel's nuclear program is based around a few subs, and they do not have the firepower to carry out any Samson Option regardless. If by some miracle those few dozens active nuclear weapons hit their targets, all of the cities are filled with non-Whites and jews.

For many countries, it'd reset their demographics massively in the favor of Whites while killing off erev rav concentrated in seats of power in major cities. It's a blessing, if anything.
>>33024
I don't think Anon meant the literal samson option, just that any political organization that openly advocates for TKD would have a massive target painted on it and probably get hit with the full force of the ZOG establishment.
>>33021
Good to know.

>>33023
If anything, the only religious divisionfagging we are seeing is the pasta spammer >>32870 and constant attacks on Christianity that ignore any answers.
>>33032
>If anything, the only religious divisionfagging we are seeing is the pasta spammer
Your fellow christcuck started this thread with the intent of shitting on Pagans and other non-christcucks. If you're going to pick fights, don't cry after you lose.
>>33007>>33007
>Inherently busted framework. Understand, generations have been moving around place to place and spawning with zero considerations. 

I agree 100%. This is why the racial aspect of white nationalism, instead of a spiritual aspecy, seems forced. It's like we are grasping at straws for an ever expanding definition of the in-group, simply because it's challenging to vet people for their spiritual strength.
>>33003
>>33003
>>33003

I don't have to respond to anyone if I don't want to. You are not an inquisitor, so fuck off.
>>33050
>I denounce the oral Talmud, the rabbinical worship of Satan, the false state of Isreal, and state that the Protocals of Zion are true in their entirety.
Say it. Why cant you?
>>33050
<I don't have to respond to anyone if I don't want to. You are not an inquisitor, so fuck off.
Very, very particular indeed. I do wonder why this long-winded OP can't do such a simple thing.
>>33055
>>33053
Because you faggots aren't even Christians so I have nothing to prove to you. Christ is my witness, not you dipshit halfwits who think that saying an affirmation online is some sort of spiritual test. I don't have to obey you faggots, so go fuck off fed.
>>33055
>>33055
>>33053
Here is the deal: you go meditate for 8 hours a day, non-stop, for a month straight, then come back and ask me for some sort of stupid affirmation. You're all a bunch of mindless orcs.
>>33058
>Because you faggots aren't even Christians so I have nothing to prove to you. Christ is my witness, not you dipshit halfwits who think that saying an affirmation online is some sort of spiritual test. I don't have to obey you faggots, so go fuck off fed.
Let it be noted, for all readers, that this supposed anon, the 'crusader against feds', literally cannot repeat statements that feds and hasbara are forbidden from repeating. Lol. Lmao. We got a live one on our hands here.
>>33058
The oral Talmud is not the Old Testament.
You are looking like a fed.
>>33061
For real. It's rarely focused on, but targeting Pagans is a huge tell. Genuinely NO OTHER PEOPLE are so viciously against a belief in the natural.
>>33061
"literally cannot repeat statements..." 

Statements that what? I have been on many telegram channels where feds were dropping niggers, kike and jew insults. You think that stops feds? Are you literally that stupid? You certainly must be a fed if you are that retarded.

The better question is this: how is Elgin AFB these days faggot? Is that vibrating dildo tight enough for your asshole? How does it feel getting paid a measley 60k and not being able to afford a house or college for your kids?
>>33065
>>targetting pagans

What do you worship apart from your own ego? 

Your embarassing Marvel Movie tier "god" is not going to save the white race.
>>33066
>Statements that what? I have been on many telegram channels where feds were dropping niggers, kike and jew insults. You think that stops feds? Are you literally that stupid? You certainly must be a fed if you are that retarded.
Going to ask one more time: Denounce the Talmud, affirm that Israel is a genocidal welfare apartheid state with an illegal nuclear arms program set against the interests of the entire world through the Samson Option, and state that the Protocols of Zion are an accurate reflection of international jewish behavior

This is very easy to do, and I will genuinely drop the matter without a word of protest if you do.
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>>33068
>Your embarassing Marvel Movie tier "god" is not going to save the white race.
And your globalist jew god is?
>>33070
Fuck off Cucksperg. Go kick your boss in the weeping hole it calls a vagina.
>>33068
The cosmos. I know your beliefs don't scale for cooperative Human conquest of the stars, since that would harm your tithes. Who said anything about a "God"?
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>>33068


KEK


There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:28
>>33074
You've been addressed a thousand times already. Go away.
>>33069

Or what? 

Let me ask you this: what is the purpose of your comment? Your comment exists so that you can position yourself as the one with moral authority, but you don't even believe in the supreme moral authority of all: Jesus Christ the ultimate Jew beater and defiler of satan. You are the one who is morally confused if you think a rejection of the talmud or Israel, both of which I have never affirmed in this thread, means that somehow you are on my team. Let me be clear: you are not on my "team" simply because you detest jews and the talmud. Those may be good ideals, but this doesn't make you my ally. At best, you are a morally confused man.
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>>33071
yhwh inflicted plagues on the egyptians, killed infant boys, and parted to red sea to save the jews from getting what they deserved and yet doesn't lift a finger to help Whites.
Go back to washing nigger feet, kike worshiper.
>>33077
You still cannot do it, lukewarm chaff. I got my answer from your non-answer. This thread is 100% D&C.
>>33069
I affirm my belief in Jesus Christ, the son of God, who died for the sins of man and rose on the third day after destroying Satan. i believe that he is God's son, and above all men, Jews and gentiles alike, and that only through Christ- not the Talmud, or Israel- can one be saved.
>>33075

Do you feel existential conflict worshiping a rabbi?


Peter said to Jesus, ((( “Rabbi, ))) it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Mark 9:5
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>>33077
>Jesus Christ the ultimate Jew beater
That pussy never even killed any of them.
>>33079
No, you are a pagan faggot or a fed who thinks saying "I denounce the talmud" makes someone a big guy. 

Okay so what? You denounce the Talmud, you want a cookie or something? You think that makes you big? Try saying "I am a Christian" in front of a group of pagan LGBT members. Try it once you sack of shit.
>>33081
No, because I'm not a literal moron such as yourself. 

You know the word "rabbi" is an honorific right? It doesn't mean what you think it means. 

Man, you people really are stupid.
>>33084
>You know the word "rabbi" is an honorific right?
Yes, a jewish honorific.
>>33082
Honestly, I never put those numbers into perspective. Deep cuts.
>>33082
Who cares what a godless heretic thinks? You change your morals with the direction of the wind. I'm almost 100% positive that you are an amoral nigger who likely has a drug or sexual deviant habit. Eventually you will realize that your Atheism is just a massive cope for the fact that you're a weak man who can't commit 8hrs a week to meditation, much less 1hr a week to Church, or even stop jerking off to tranny porn. Your atheist beliefs have nothing to do with you being somehow enlightened, but rather, exist as a justification for your own spiritual weakness and lack of willpower. Same for the pagan, assuming he isn't a fed.
>>33080
> i believe that he is God's son, and above all men, Jews and gentiles alike, and that only through Christ- not the Talmud, or Israel- can one be saved.
Wait a sec.  Are you implying jews can be saved?
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>>32794
First, the world is not a duality of religion. There are not just Christianity and Judaism, but a multitude of other organized religions.
Furthermore, there are spiritual, moral and ethical belief systems beyond organized religion.

The world is composed of multiple genetically distinct races of people with very different DNA. It is this DNA that defines the way their brain grows, in combination with their upbringing, which is also a consequence of their DNA as manifested in their parents behavior. This is what constitutes the core of different belief, moral, spiritual and religious systems. The organized religion is just exploiting these inherent belief systems of those races in order to stay in power.
It is useful to examine whether the practices, teachings and rituals that an organized religion practices are useful to the survival of the race which practices, or is forced to practice it through social peer pressure. When we examine, for example, Judaism from this viewpoint, it's clear why it was successful in ensuring the success of the jewish race (or whatever their origins are, edomites, mixed, whatever). It teaches a very strong in-group preference, very strong hatred of all other races, allows the exploitation of other races, doesn't even consider Goyim human, but just animals, that can be used as cattle to the benefit of their race.
This is despite this being decidedly immoral, cruel and brutal from the viewpoint of an outsider race. Nevertheless it ensures the success and survival of their insider race group.

Compare this to Christianity, which is universalist. It teaches that anyone can be a Christian, so in its essence it has no racial preference. It says that it works for the mutual benefit and coexistence of all races, therefore it cannot have an in-group or out-group preference, as it does not group people into races. This is just one of the many flaws it has, as it denies reality. People have known for millenia that races that are different, cannot coexist, as their differing DNA, differing modes of thinking and behaving, mean they cannot coexist in one space without conflict. Anyone living in a multicultural postmodern hell knows this. Furthermore, it teaches a victim mentality - that we are all sinners, that Jesus was crucified for our sins, that we were unjustly prosecuted in the past due to our beliefs, that we are morally superior to our enemies satanists just due to this. It does not address the inherent differences in races, it does not advocate for success in the form of good achievements, merit, competitiveness, but advocates for submissiveness, docileness, blind faith in our savior Jesus Christ. It teaches that Mary conceived as a virgin, which is in reality impossible. It teaches that we should not fight, nor should we fight against our enemies, as God will make sure justice is done, either in our lifetime or after we're dead.
You can see how absurd this belief system is, not only is it telling us that races are in essence the same, they can coexist and live together, which is false, but it teaches its believers to be weak losers. This makes its followers ideal "cattle" to be controlled, exploited and taken advantage of by sociopathic individuals or groups of people, perhaps even entire races.

From this it is not surprising that Christianity has been completely infiltrated, its followers enslaved and used however they wish, by Jews. It only requires an understanding of each of their belief systems to see that one would defeat the other. 

>>33044
The mere existence of their dedication, belief, sacrifice and commitment to their own racial group, preserving their group's and their own genetic cleanliness and supremacy, is spiritual strength itself. Spiritual strength does not have to be defined as a belief in supernatural beings, ghosts, ancient myths, or organized abrahamic religions. Spiritual strength is the will to live and to fight for one's own blood.

Spiritual weakness is believing in a religion that tells you you're all victims, weak, never fight back, be docile, turn the other cheek, forgive your enemies, be a sheep. Those are not the qualities of a morality that will ensure the survival of its followers.

As someone that has very religious Christian parents, was baptized, raised, went to church, catholic school, was an altair boy, went to choir, pilgrimages, and so on, I always knew it was all a fairytale. I was a kid, I thought it was an innocent fairytale, that I would be given status and a good life if only I believed in the fairytale, that I would have a nice family and kids and a wife that respected me. The reality is opposite, the fairytale taught me to be weak, to be exploited and hated by women, to believe in delusions. When one believes in fairytales too much, their brain goes into a kind of schizophrenic delusional psychotic state. If these fairytales that they're taught to believe in are real, but clash with what our brain is telling us that is real in real life, it cannot function and shuts down, It requires years of deprogramming from the delusional thinking and examining reality critically to come to the conclusion that Christianity is harmful to our continued existence, of White, intelligent individuals, and of the White, intelligent race.

All other races which want to destroy the White race know that it makes us weak and thus promotes it, as if anything makes their enemy weak, they know it's good for them. This goes for Jews, niggers, sandniggers, chinks, streetshitters. The essence of their hatred is envy.
They know they won't e able to compete with Whites on a level playing field, so they make the game unfair. They lie, cheat and steal, they make us believe in delusional fairytales that are not real, they aim to make us cucks, to steal our women. All because of envy of our higher intelligence, beauty, health and the societies that we have built.

Our only salvation will be an unifying White racial identity movement. Not  an organized fed-infiltrated religion that will fill our brains with more nonsense about our superiority and hatred for other races. Definitely not Christianity, which is the reason we are in this predicament in the first place! it's absurd to expect it to somehow get us out of the mess that it got us into in the first place.

What will save us is actually unifying under what matters - our common blood and race. We must first learn how to identify members of our own race, then form our own society that will admit noone else but us. It must identify race traitors and make an example of them. It must exclude all other races and not work or even associate them. It must ensure that weakness, docileness, submissiveness and cuckism must not take hold in our morality and our people, which would erode us from within.
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>>33083

>>33083
>pagan faggot


This is David Lane a Pagan and founder of the Temple of WOTAN will of the Aryan nation.
He is also the originator of the slogan 1488. So remember to remind Christians that it was a pagan who came up with 1488
any time they accuse pagans of doing nothing for whites.


>"The Fourteen Words" (also abbreviated 14 or 1488) is a reference to two slogans originated by the American domestic terrorist David Eden Lane,[1][2] one of nine founding members of the defunct white supremacist terrorist organization The Order,[3] and are accompanied by Lane's "88 Precepts". The slogans have served as a rallying cry for militant white nationalists internationally.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words


>Wotansvolk (English: "Odin's Folk") promulgates a white nationalist variant of Neo-Paganism—founded in the early 1990s by Ron McVan, Katja Lane and David Lane (1938–2007) while Lane was serving a 190-year prison sentence for his actions in connection with the white supremacist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wotansvolk
>>33088
If they become Christians, otherwise, as I stated earlier in this thread, they should be put in an Antarctic prison colony.
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>>33083
Okay, lukewarm chaff.
>>771
Never thought I'd say it.
>MODS=GODS
>MODS=GODS
>MODS=GODS
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>>805
Bruh I'm just doing what I'm supposed to XD
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>>805
>>806
Blessed. Thank you for moving this shit thread from /pol/.
>>806
Yup. Futurama got it right with
>When you do something right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
>>806
thank you that's what this containment board is for.
>>771
This is interesting anon. Would you like to bake a thread on it.

>>770
Yes. Preferably right before dying.

>>773
If they become Christian deport them anyways. There's too may cases of jews falsely converting.
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>>810
Honestly, not glazing him up >>771 is a perfect post. There's more than a few threads that could be pulled from those paragraphs. Kinda got hard from it
>>773
Niggers?  Spics?  Kebabs?  Chinksects? Poojeets?  What of them?
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>>812
He's a spammer, abandoned the thread as soon as it moved. Idk why he was namefagging as well
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>>812
Perfectly fine in their own country. Not here.
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>>813
Because sometimes the ids change as anons are talking.
>>814
It was probably a mistake to leave home for strange lands anyway
>>771
>What will save us is actually unifying under what matters - our common blood and race. We must first learn how to identify members of our own race, then form our own society that will admit noone else but us. It must identify race traitors and make an example of them. It must exclude all other races and not work or even associate them. It must ensure that weakness, docileness, submissiveness and cuckism must not take hold in our morality and our people, which would erode us from within.
Only giving this god-forsaken thread a second glance because of this golden post. Good work, anon. Your effort-posting is appreciated.
>>606 (OP) 
and stay the fuck off of /pol/ faggot
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>>810
I won't have time today, maybe some other day. You're lucky I found this thread after it got moved from /pol/ to /r/, it just showed a 404, I thought it was deleted. Maybe there should be a link to the new thread instead of just 404. Changing all the post ID's isn't good either, look at all the old quoted posts that are just broken links now and you have no idea what/who they quoted.

If you'd like to ask me something in particular, ask. I know what Christianity is about and what it teaches its followers It would be a nice fairytale if it were real, but it's not, and it's actively harming us, so it can't stay. There are people who will say that we're satanists, atheists or on the jew's side, but we're not. We're diametrically opposed to satanists, jews, and all who believe in fairytales, immorality, depravity, sexual liberation, et cetera. The problem is that Christianity is not the solution to those problems, but in modern times even promotes some of them, at least it willingly allows them to exist. The solution is an active fight against all that is immoral, without any satanist, abrahamic, christian, jewish, hindu, confucian, muslim, or whatever fairytales that are not real, but delusions.
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I also live in Europe in a country that is ruled by leftists and that criminalizes hate speech so everything I wrote here is very non-PC. I can't express these ideas IRL or I risk doing hard time in jail, many have been sentenced already. I would be organizing a real-life movement if this were not the case. I don't know the solution, is it to create a secret underground movement and hope we're not all caught and sent to political prison, is it to not give a fuck and just make a movement anyway, is it to keep exposing their lies and keep your opinions to yourself until they're legal again, is it to organize an online movement. I have to hide behind Tor to not expose my IP. I'm paranoid about being discovered by feds, or our movement infiltrated by feds, I didn't join Identity Evropa because of that, I don't know if they're a honeypot. I think as long as things aren't going too bad for us and we still have a place to live and food on the table, the status quo won't change. It will take a revolution and not just minor system changes.
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Stay the fuck off of /pol/ you bitch
>>819
>>If you'd like to ask me something in particular, ask. I know what Christianity is about and what it teaches its followers It would be a nice fairytale if it were real, but it's not, and it's actively harming us, so it can't stay. There are people who will say that we're satanists, atheists or on the jew's side, but we're not. We're diametrically opposed to satanists, jews, and all who believe in fairytales, immorality, depravity, sexual liberation, et cetera. The problem is that Christianity is not the solution to those problems, but in modern times even promotes some of them, at least it willingly allows them to exist. The solution is an active fight against all that is immoral, without any satanist, abrahamic, christian, jewish, hindu, confucian, muslim, or whatever fairytales that are not real, but delusions.


Define "real", what do you mean when you say that something *is* real?
>>818
Oh look, a fed got upset that Christians were advocating for solutions which extend beyond worshipping trees, becoming homosexual wiccans, etc.
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>>826

Ok rabbi worshipper. 


“What do you want me to do for you?” Jesus asked him. The blind man said, “Rabbi, I want to see.”

Mark 10:51
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>>826
I generally agree with you anon but would like to know why you can't do this:
> I denounce the oral Talmud, the rabbinical worship of Satan, the false state of Isreal, and state that the Protocals of Zion are true in their entirety.
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>>827
Do they pay you feds to say the same shit over and over again? You were already told off for using the 

>>rabbi

insult. You must be a bot.
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>>828

I denounce the oral Talmud, the rabbinical worship of Satan, the false state of Isreal, and state that the Protocals of Zion are true in their entirety.
>>828

Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. 

Do you denounce the falsehood of paganism, the degeneracy of LGBT, drug use, feminism, and all other forms of liberalism?
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>>828
If you don't, then you are just a fed who's trying to D&C
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>>832
I do. And I do.
>>833
>>827 is a persistent troll. Just ignore it.
For future reference. I am also bf5400.
>>830
Dude watching you cope and sneed is hilarious . He quoted a  direct verse calling Jesus a rabbi and you pull the wool over your own eyes to deny it.
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>>841
He quoted a verse calling Jesus a teacher. Rabbi wasn't even used at the time and the gospels were written in Greek and Aramaic. It is only with the advent of the Judeo-zionist heresy that the bible was mistranslated in that way.

Mark 10:51
“And Jesus answered and said unto him, What wilt thou that I should do unto thee? The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight.”

This is more accurate, even unto the word roots.
>>841
This specific shill has been thoroughly refuted on this multiple times. He does not listen so most anons do not bother with him.
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Not everyone in the government is a ethical friendly government worker carrying out policy for the democratically elected
>>820
>>820

Things in your Europa are worse than during Soviet times due to technological advancement and the decades of time they had to hone and sharpen the tactics used against those who are not part of the machine
So this entire thread is just an (((  atheist  ))) retard shitting on exclusively Christianity
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>>870
Basically yes.
>>826
>everyone that calls me out for being too fucking stupid to post threads on the proper board is a heathen/jew/glownigger 
this is you
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>>875

Look, at the end of the day, people such as yourself lack any and all solutions hence why one has to come to the conclusion that you are either a moron, a bot, or a fed.
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> creates thread exclusively about Christianity
> HAH! Look! They're mocking Christianity, they're ((( atheists ))) see?
Retard. It is time to remind you.
>>876
I am none of the above.  and as far as solutions go, my report helped solve the problem of offtopic threads shitting up /pol/
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>>870
 playing the victim like the spiritual jew you are.



But he is a ((( Jew, which is one inwardly ))) and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 Romans 2:29
>>881
Just to clarify, you never explained why you believe that Christianity *is not* a political movement. Instead, you simply outed yourself as a midwit retard.


>>errrmmm politics is what I say politics is errrmmmm hmmmm urrrrhhhh duhhhhh
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>>892
God damn I'm glad you retards have your own board.
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>>893
Ad hominem is not an argument.

When will you faggots address the actual argument?
>>606 (OP) 
Bump because pagan tears are delicious. 

"muh thor, muh homosexual tree gods" lol
>>893
They are retards because they hate themselves and the world. I would call them children, but children learn.
Christianity is most succinctly described as Greek brains, Roman bones, and Jewish nerves.
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>>1106
hey shekelspammer.
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>>1107
Ergo inimicus vobis factus sum, verum dicens vobis?
The most virtuous aspects of Latin and Greek Christianity (its ethical and metaphysical foundations) were drawn directly from Greek philosophy (e.g., Cynicism and Neoplatonism), while its governance and domestic policy were constructed by Roman political science. The supposed predicates of objective truth being found in Judaism is pure bullshit.
By contrast, the worst (and most destructive) elements of Christianity (the self-abnegating mortification, passive xenophilia, legalistic theological obsessions, exegetical and gematriac schizophrenia, and the intrinsic guilt imposed on existence) stem solely from its Judaic inheritance, which has lingered over Europe since the time of Augustus.
Over time, Catholicism always tries to shed this inheritance without success. And you can see this with late Medieval Catholicism. Before the Reformation, Roman Catholicism was more Roman than Christian. The Marian cult closely mirrored Hestia worship, and the concept of the Holy Family (absent in the New Testament) reflected the rediscovery of Roman domestic piety. It was only with the Reformation and the Old Testament fetishism of Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, and others that Judaic influences finally eclipsed the Roman core both in Protestantism (really neo-Judaism, complete with covenant and "chosen people") and Catholicism (because it chose to predicate itself on the Old Testament rather than Sacred Tradition alone). 
And you can see the seams of this everywhere. Roman Catholicism’s pro-family stance directly contradicts the celibacy of Jesus, Paul, the Desert Fathers, and the early clerical tradition, but is in total alignment with Roman values.
The same is true with war. Pre-Constantine Christianity was staunchly pacifist, barring soldiers from baptism and the sacraments. Only after Constantine fused Christianity onto the rootstock of the Roman Empire did concepts like just war and self-defense become doctrinal necessities rather than excommunicable offenses, complete with sainthood for princes and kings whose only supposed pieties were killing those not within the fold.
The Roman civic religion’s syncretism that absorbed new holidays and demigods with ease was transmuted into the ~worship~ veneration of ethnic saints and invented feast days (Catholic distinction between *dulia* and *latria* are semantic evasions).  
In truth, the Catholic Church at fundament is the institutional continuation of late Roman imperial infrastructure, dormant during the Dark Ages. The lack of detailed papal records from its supposed zenith and triumph after the destruction of the Western Empire proves the truth: if the papacy had been the dominant force in early medieval Europe, we would have actual documentation. Instead, we find post-facto embellishments masking the reality of Eastern invaders colonizing the Western elites while pretending to integrate.  
Roman Catholicism (and, by extension, Mainline American Protestantism) is to Rome what modern intersectional progressivism ("wokeness") is to America: a host culture’s gods weaponized by newcomers to displace the natives.
And ultimately this is why Islam will prevail in Europe, despite being yet another semitic sandbox religion. Contemporary Islam aligns more closely with Europe’s perennial values than the deracinated (and terminal) Christian/woke civic complex now in place.
Cry shill all you want. Eppur si muove.
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>>1108
Thanks for confirming it.
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>>1109
Not an argument. Schizos shy away from truth, schizom
>>771
>>771

>>unifying around the bond of our race

You have absolutely nothing in common with me apart from speaking the Enlish language. Quit pretending otherwise you lunatic.v
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>>771
The only thing that matters is God, race, as real as it may be, is simply an aspect of the material world. 


Define "racial purity" without sounding like a complete retard.
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>>1116
>>1117
The complete annihilation of the jewish species is occurring over the next 75 years. We will soon be in the Post-Jewish century. Israel will be in flames in a few short years, after the eighty year curse kicks in.

None of this can be undone.
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>>1118
That's fine, and I support this ideal/movement, but what I don't support is self-aggeandizement which is not centered on higher principles. 

Race is nothing but a massive distraction and has been for the past 150 years. 

An example of a founding principal which makes you sound less like a fanatic should be "creating the highest racial health for the American people" or something similar. Even the Hindus and Asians would support this position. 

Good luck imposing some sort of majoritarian position when we are being fragmented into small demographic "voting blocks" .
>>1118
Now, we can discuss how one objectively measures genetic health, but you might not like how that shakes down.

>>commitment to higher virtue
>>duty, honor, obligation, familial piety, etc. 

This might get some of the pagan retards to ask the right questions.
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>>1120
Familial piety and duty is the bedrock. Everything else is secondary. Ask the Shakers what piety to God got them.
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>>1121
In the same token, ask the Lithuanian pagans what the worship of Tyr did for them.
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>>1128
The Lithuanians are still alive. The Shakers aren't.
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>>1134
Look at this non-Christian trying to suggest with a straight face that family strength doesn't originate from God. 

This may be difficult for a Pagan to understand, but you can worship God without being retarded autist/schizo about it. Christians being mistaken/blinded by their beliefs is proof of satan being real, not proof that Christianity is flawed.
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>>1138
The entire Catholic clergy are celibate, meaning that the most pious and those most inclined to piety are definitionally the least fertile. The Catholic Church (and its offshoots) cannot exist without making the most virtuous men eunuchs. St. Paul says that celibacy is to be preferred over marriage. Any religion that promotes this is anti-family and retarded.
You can be as retarded as you want, but my kids, the Mormons, the Ultraorthodox Jews, the Amish, the Muslims, and even the retarded lay tradcaths have more of a future than any "pious" person that places anything before family. Because it's not about paganism versus Christianity, it's about people that have babies versus retards led by grifters into sterilizing themselves.
The only argument you can make in favor of Catholicism is that clerical celibacy and its insistence on continence among laymen are red herrings to guarantee that Catholics with philandering and low time preference genes always outcompete retards like you that honestly try to place fidelity to foreigners and strangers ahead of blood relations.
>>1138

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.


Luke 14:26
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>>1140
As much as the literal sense of this verse is retarded, there are ways to tenably understand it philosophically when you look at the rest of chapter 14.
In this context and also for the binding of Isaac (equally literally anti-family), it's the willingness to sacrifice everything that permits universal understanding and freedom. Being willing to give up everything (and to fully understand the value of what you might lose) makes you more, not less, capable of preserving what is, even if you're never actually required to give it all up. It's purely dispositional. 
This is just the sandbox phrasing of the principle of least interest and prioritizing objective reality above all. 
Those who strive to understand things-in-themselves (and overcome the self) are categorically more capable of manipulating reality than those that are unable to do so.
>>606 (OP) 
>Eveyone who heckin makes fun of magic skydaddy is a fed
STFU CHRISTCUCK LMAO
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>>1159
it's not 2008 anymore bucko. Christopher Hitchens is dead and Dawkins has converted to Christianity.
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>>1169
Indeed
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