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Repentance requires two things, forgiveness and stopping all sinful behavior.

Easily said but hard to do.
In order for your sins to be forgiven you must forgive those who sinned against you. Whether that was an insult, theft, physically hurt, etc

You must use empathy and/or perspective in order to put yourself in the shoes of the person who harmed you, then understand exactly why they did what they did to you. The person's reasoning as well as what they were feeling at the time they hurt you, no matter how major/minor.

Saying to yourself i forgave them, i don't want to think or talk about them is not forgiveness. That is trying to forget, not forgive. Once you have truly forgiven someone then you should have no trouble talking about what they did or thinking about what that person did.

For instance, my dad betrayed me by teaming up with a greedy executor of a will. he received more money from the estate. Putting myself in his shoes and the executors shoes, they believed i would have wasted it and also wanted more money for themselves. Originally i just considered them to be greedy, but they have their own families and i probably would have spent the money on drugs or shopping.
So i have a much better understanding of why they did what they did, i reconize my own part and how they saw things. So i can more easily forgive them.

"for when you forgive men their trespasses your heavenly father will also forgive your trespasses"

Empathy and putting yourself in the shoes of the other person is how you can truly forgive.

Anyone who want's to honestly discuss how to forgive and repent is welcome in this thread. 

Let's have a comfy discussion and help one another to Repent better.

I won't be around for very long after posting this tonight as i need a shower.
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>>1287 (OP) 
Forgiveness breeds future sinners who inherit the world. This is the central flaw in any ideology which permits it, especially towards those who are not high IQ or high empathy to begin with.

After a few short generations of forgiving, your enemies take over completely as they breed, win, and flourish while you do not.

Let's take the example of your father and the greedy executor. If we were to apply a Roman law standard [similar to ones that should be used on anyone who engages in ((( financial crime, thievery, usury, and loans with interest )))], it'd be straightforward that their hands would be cut off and this would be testament against repeating such actions forever. Crushing the testicles of rapists is another example.

From another angle, if we were to apply true biblical law, your father, the executor, and anyone they loved would be killed without mercy to end the bloodline forever. This was done to great effect, including killing all the women and children so as to avoid allowing that seed to continue.

Forgiveness is best used when only applied to those who are high IQ, high empathy, and ethnic European or Far East Asian. These are the only races capable of building civilization, and even then, it should only be applied to individuals with a history of forgiveness leading to a net reward to society rather than allowing more evil to reproduce and take root.
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>>1291
Future sinners? or the meek?
insulting the intelligence of those seeking less pain and division between their fellow man is not high iq or very empathetic
((( ))) is simply encouraging racism and hate for no real reason in a thread with no mention of (((them )))
True biblical law? like the old testament? we have a new covenant with the new testament. Racism is strife and conflict among brothers. If everyone forgave everyone else then the entire world would benefit.
If you don't want to repent or forgive that is fine i forgive you. You are free to go elsewhere.
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>>1294
>>1291
...I recognize the bad spelling.
Hey shekel spammer. Stop trying to shit things up and false flag.
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Another example

When i was in highschool many years ago. i got into a fight with another brother.
He made fun of my appearance and i struck him several times and he had to go see multiple specialists.

I thought i had forgave him, however i failed to see things from his perspective. He wasn't very popular among the other kids either. He was bored and wanted to look cool or be funny and i was a quiet boy who was always stuck in a book. So he said hurtful things to me. I should have forgiven him and not struck him for i committed the sins of wrath,vanity and pride. I was ashamed of my appearance and my pride was hurt in front of a group of friends/acquaintances. and he should not have been a reviler(basically a person who insults others), apologized when he realized my feelings were hurt  and that would have been that

i will still contemplate on the matter until i fully understand why he did what he did and why i did what i did. 
Once i fully understand and empathize with why he did what he did and i no longer feel any sort of negative emotion i will be much closer to full repentance.

Empathy and perspective(empathy's mean cousin) are what allows someone to forgive another person truly.
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>>1297
>Implying he's a nigger, that Christianity is a nigger faith.

Hey shekelsteine, you going to apologize for being the kike that tried to shit up /r/.
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>>1296
What bad spelling? spell check works pretty good.
No, there is no "false flag" about forgiveness and repentance. These things are universally good for all righteous people. Multiple religions have forgiveness and repentance as a core concept. 
i would say if you don't like it leave. however the kind of people who want to derail such a thread need it the most.
>>1298
A high school fight between children is none of what you imply. making up straw men in your head is not responding or making a relevant point.
This is my first thread in /r/ as well as all of my posting in /r/. 
Why are you feeling so personally attacked by this thread?
We got a yellow-skinned fbf685 juden here. It's best to ignore the excrement xis spewing
>>1298
It's the same fed again. Heck it's likely the fucker over here. 
https://ourchan.org/pol/thread/36287.html
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>>1318
>It's the same fed again. Heck it's likely the fucker over here. 
<it's the same fed but it's also probably likely this guy (a fed)
I've yet to post once ITT
>>1318
This is the fucker that was blatantly using tor to change his id/flag.
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>>1336
literally imagine being this buttblasted over absolutely nothing like this on an imageboard
Starting a fake "discussion" about tor/id's,etc to slide the thread is a tactic of the scribes and pharisee's.
The thread starter literally posted for the first time on the board last night. take the fake e drama theater elsewhere. Repent and forgive, love thy neighbor, rebuke satan and the devil as much as possible.
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>>1339
>fbf685 is clearly a disruptor Faggot
>>1339
I do appreciate you making this thread here, anon.
As does the other poster(Leaf-Flag) who did the same in /pol/ in order to not derail a different thread.
Doing this has very easily revealed the bad actors ITT and in the others. You definitely have a troll, or 2 in here.
Either way, the thread is a worthy discussion for /r/, as the tenets of Christianity have a lot of arguable "traps" in different interpretations of forgiveness.
*Who is it for?
*Does it nullify Justice?
*Are we truly all brothers in Christ, or is that race dependent?

Lots of good points to ponder here, as well as the impact of holding onto resentments, hate and anger.
It may be a tough sell to promote that niggers think of "Jeebus!" as literally anything more than an ATM, both actual, and somehow "spiritual", and an even harder sell to promote The SYNAGOGUE of SATAN as somehow forgivable, as that is their power; Deception, Pilpul and Money majick. These are a **Current and ACTIVE threat against you and ALL White Christians.
How will you reconcile this?
Either way, lots to work with here, and you're doing it in the right place.
Try not to let the trolls get to you too much, you can forgive them and try reason...
Or report them as OP to banish them to .../hell/
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>>1342
Repentance is for every single human on earth.No it is not race dependent, satanic tricks are not a race either rabbi. Encouraging hatred against the jews for political reasons only hurt innocents spiritually. A sick catch 22, one that more and more are avoiding. 

I will keep posting here and elsewhere where you and those like you can not subvert or distract with bait.
 For the discerning reader this mans post is full of traps to cause a Christian to hate and sin. He does this because he is scared. he does this because he has made the choice to be evil and follow satan. I forgive you and thank you for the example of what NOT to do.
if i am wrong about you, then you should really focus on repentance.
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>>1343
>satanic tricks are not a race either rabbi
Anon...
You should read the Talmud. THAT is the Satanic subversion.
Whatever, anon.
I was the one last night that encouraged your posting here, so take that for what it's worth.
I'll leave you to your hairshirt then.
I for one will NOT be rode over roughshod by Your "innocent" jEWS who call daily for your destruction, and believe themselves Smarter than God.

Good luck with that.
You will reap a garden of weeds and rats, but at least you'll have your self-righteousness, right?
No need to reply...
but the last word will be yours if you do.
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>>1346
The talmud is nothing but spiritual and mental poison(the actual book itself)
Attacking them is nothing more than a catch 22 designed to make others sin. Forgiving them is what God wants. it is also what scares them the most.
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judaism itself is nothing more than satans attempt at getting you to punch your annoying kid sibling(satanic cult) so the father(God) will light you up with the belt.
>>1348
>Forgiving them is what God wants. it is also what scares them the most.
Yeah, jews hate it when you surrender and don't fight back.
Fuck your gay sandnigger religion. yhwh's bab cock gobbling chosen people killed my grandparents with their vaccines so I hate all of them and I want them all to die horribly, women and children included and if your faggot god doesn't like it, then fuck him too..
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