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>gives Bohemia a sea coast
>has Hector refer to Aristotle 
>gives Milan a seaport
>has a character in Corialanus quote Cato
>has billiards in ancient Egypt
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He also stole all of his plots
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>>477 (OP) 
God forbid the author of fiction take artistic license
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>>480
Every playwright stole their plots back then and Shakespeare ended up immortalizing stories that would have otherwise been forgotten
>>480
he also wasn't 'real' he never wrote any of his plays. all of it was written by others that didn't want to be in the public eye like protestants and women so they just credited an illiterate person (Shakespeare had to dictate his last will for someone else to write down because he couldn't read)
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I think he listed those as positives.

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A Canticle for Leibowitz was a book published by Walter M. Miller Jr. in 1959 and republished many times thereafter. Walter Miller was a prolific writer of various short stories, but published only a small number of longer-form works. Though I hesitate to call “A Canticle for Leibowitz” science fiction in the traditional sense, it certainly uses the framing of fiction to dig into extremely complex philosophical ideas regarding human society. It’s a book that is as relevant to the 21st century as it was to the 20th. More so in the 21st century, as we are now positioned to see the mistakes of the 20th century. With the rise of new technologies, human civilization looks to the future with the same trepidation with which we now look to the past. This book, in particular, is valuable in the way it develops ideas of culture, myth, and religion. I was inspired to read this book due to the YouTube video by Feral Historian visible here:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBTN46HMCnM

The book is a combination of three short stories that span approximately 1000 years, between the years 2600 AD and 3700 AD. The stories take place after the “flame deluge,” an obvious atomic war that occurred around the middle of the 20th century. After 600 years of barbarism, a form of Christianity has risen from the dust and constructed an abbey in the 
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Religion, particularly Christianity, serves a spiritual and social purpose. It serves a Truth that cannot be casually cast aside when it inconveniences the servants of Reason. Without Truth, the servants of reason become creatures of nihilism, hedonism, and create a world that must end in degeneracy and disaster.

The modern demographic collapse is indicative of this proposition. The limits to industrial growth. The demographic implosion. The continued degradation of our environment. All of these slow-motion trainwrecks that are occurring not despite the world of rationality, but because of it. At the same time, without the force of rationality, the modern world would not exist.
Is it silly that a monk spent 15 years producing an illuminated copy of a text he did not understand? From a materialist perspective, yes. What about a theist perspective? Through the dark ages, entire works of text from the ancient days were protected, guarded, and studied by monks and abbots. For a thousand years after the fall of Rome, these works were guarded and meticulously preserved despite the content of their text often being a mystery. As recently as the 1980s and 1990s, ancient manuscripts written hundreds of years ago in languages no one speaks have been found in old church basements. Entire cultures and arts have been resurrected from the dead because information once deemed useless was preserved anyway.

Off the top of my head, I can cite the HEMA martial arts as an example. An entire codified system of combat resurrected from 600-year-old manuscripts because a warrior-poet historian found a few preserved books in forgotten basements.

It is rational to throw away useless traditions and information. Surely. It would require an act of faith to value those things not for the now, but for some indeterminable moment in the distant future. One can argue, then, that rationality is not a basis for a civilization. Rationality doesn’t build temples, preserve history, or identify a cultural foundation.
At the heart of A Canticle for Liebowitz is the pull between theism and rationalism, progressivism and traditionalism. The book, however meandering it is, recognizes the soulless foundation of rationality and acknowledges that something greater is required. There is a space for ritual and the sacred in all societies, and those societies that do not make space for such things inevitably collapse on themselves. We have entered a strange new world in the last few hundred years, and human nature is ill-adapted for it.

What we need, more than anything else, is time. We need time to build new traditions and experiment with post-global-industrial modes of existence outside of “that grind” and “progressivism.” We need space and we need time as a species to regain our footing as the world shifts around us. Technophiliacs seem to think that “slowing” progress is itself a sin. Yet we’ve seen the culture reject the Marxist arc of history, and progressivism appears to have finally found its endpoint. It took humanity several hundred years of introspection to really come to understand the principles provided by Christ… We need time to develop a new understanding of Truth contextualized by high Technology.

We are entering a new Axial Age of experimentation, and right now, Humanity is adrift and rudderless in a world we’re ill-adapted for and looking for new ideas. There is a need for tradition. There is a need for virtualization. There is a need for the spiritual in an age of blind ov
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There’s something wholesome about an age where lifetimes pass by like raindrops, each comfortable in its contribution to the whole rather than consumed by narcissism. In an age where change is slow, we have time to contemplate and grow as both individuals and as a people. Not consumed by a quest for greed, gluttony, or hedonistic whimsy.

I highly recommend the book.
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I just finished reading the book. It was fantastic and very enjoyable. Thank you for the recommendation!

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I can't read plays. It's too awkward. They need to be in prose form.
Read "Waiting for Godot", its the proto-nothing ever happens.
seconded op

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>dictatorship is good (Latter Day Pamphlets)
>might is right (Chartism)
>Anglo Saxon supremacy (Chartism)
>pro slavery (the Nigger Question)
>pro imperialism (Latter Day Pamphlets)
>capitalism is bad (Latter Day Pamphlets)

Was he a proto-fascist?
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I`ve found about Carlyle through forgotten serbian philosopher Božidar Knežević.

Knežević translated following works to serbian language:
>On Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History, Thomas Carlyle
>History of Civilization in England, Henry Thomas Buckle

Later i have read almost entire wikipedia page of Carlyle and i can say he was a based Scottish racist man, had a boner for German Teutonic spirit and stuff like that. Hitler also liked him and he was anti semetic.

Now Božidar is an interesting figure since he pretty much tried to bring European/English and somewhat racist and faustian thought to Serbia, but no one gave a fuck, so he was forgotten and completely memory-holed from serbian consciousness. We havent had anyone like him ever since. He died in 1905.

An interesting exchange between serbian satirist and journalist Radoje Domanović (often called serbian Jonathan Swift) and Božidar Knežević which was recounted by Domanović in his paper "Stradija" on 10. April 1905, goes like this:

About the unjust judgment, that great philosopher, a disappointed, broken soul, Bozha Knezhevitch once said to me very painfully:
— Do you see, Radoye, what is happening, in God`s name ? Do you see?
I see, unfortunately!
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>Retarded maid burns his entire first draft of The French Revolution 
>just shrugs his shoulders and starts all over

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Starting the thread with a classic

>Waking up to a loud crash rarely means something good is happening. It’s never “CRASH! Mom made pancakes!” or “CRASH! We decided to adopt a Golden Retriever!
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American culture is centered around pancakes.They have holidays for pancakes. They adopted millions of golden retrievers to eat pancakes. The hottest intellectual debate in America is whose Mom makes the best pancakes. Their president is a pancake. They dress and act like pancakes. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from pancakes. They post sassy gifs about pancakes. They worship pancakes. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties to watch an event about who can stack the most pancakes. Their cities are completely overrun with pancakes. Their movies are filled with pancakes and every commercials has to include at least one pancake. America has always been and will be a nation of pancakes.
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This thread is making me hungry
>**It was a strange way to greet the second half of the year. The birds just went dead silent as the sirens began to do their slow wail wind-up...
>We the People, in order to form a more perfect pancake, establish utensils, insure domestic cleanliness, provide for the grocery budget, adjust the right skillet settings, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our golden retrievers
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Pancake lit general?

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Is it good, or not? Quite a bit circulating regarding their modern nationalist perspective if you begin to look for it
What would make it unique or different from other European cool aesthetic movements? This one just probably shits on Moskals and Mongols because its on the frontier of Europe.
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Only contemporary nationalist group to ever approach power
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>>466
Yes, but at what cost and goal? Its like being a proud serbian or croatian nationalist and hating each other. Yugoslavia is not required to be at peace in a healthy manner. Azov was even financed by Israelis when it was beneficial to Israel. Hipocrisy right there. Whenever nationalist and cool aesthetic groups direct their action towards their neighbours, there is nothing good about it. But when Arabs, Dravidians and Negroes pour across borders and seas, they dont lift a finger at large. I love cool edits, but this is just my critic towards it.

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I've never read a sci-fi novel, I'm not into sci-fi movies but I know you anons can recommend some kino. What should be my first sci-fi novel ever? Thinking about Philip K. Dick but not sure which book to start with.

Pic is my latest read lol
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Italy was a failed region even In Machiavelli's time. The pattern of behaviour you are talking about, which is antisocial deception and a lack of social trust, is probably a big part of what led to this. 

I have a very big reading stack and not the time I wish I had for reading at the moment. But I will note it, just for you. Can't rightfully dismiss what you haven't read
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Sorry, I'm falling asleep. When I looked at Discourses on Livy I was about 17 years old, that's a long time back and I don't remember much of an impact on my thinking. My reaction, to put it simply, is that I don't find Machiavelli particularly relevant to the modern political scene. These people did not exist in the information age, or even in the age of machines or more sophisticated forms of politics using influencers, demographic outreach strategies etc. The political philosophy of such an older time is too removed from real levers of power to have value. But this is mostly a question of tastes, aspirations and whatnot. Later
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>I have a very big reading stack and not the time I wish I had for reading at the moment. But I will note it, just for you. Can't rightfully dismiss what you haven't read
They are very long reads unlike The Prince. I don't think they'd be super valuable to you outside of Machiavelli's select chapters on the political cycles of states which itself was derived from the ancient Greeks' concept of The Kyklos (anarchy -> dictatorship -> tyranny -> aristocracy -> oligarchy -> democracy -> mob rule -> rinse and repeat). The Forever War, however, is a great read and/or listen. 
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>These people did not exist in the information age, or even in the age of machines or more sophisticated forms of politics using influencers, demographic outreach strategies etc. The political philosophy of such an older time is too removed from real levers of power to have value.
You may wish to re-evaluate the value which ancient and historical writers offer: the actions they observed had often immediate consequences, and their lessons were derived from hardwon experience. Fuck up enough times as a businessman, merchant or politician—you and your family would have their hands cut off, you'd be beheaded in the streets, or yo
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What I mean is that the technologies of today are so different the underlying way it all works is not the same. I studied quite a bit of the classics of political philosophy in postsecondary and it's left in me personally a permanent disdain for it. In the their time it was not as though they had rigorous standards of deep data to pull from. It's often mere prejudices from people who consumed less aggregate information than I have throughout their lifetimes.
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not sci-fi thats alt hist

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Why did he decide to become a hermit?
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To get away from phonies

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Now that jannies allow history on here, what does /lit/ think of Louis XIV?
France owes Germany reparations for the devastation of the palatinate

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Can't believe I wasted my childhood reading this shit
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There is nothing wrong with harry potter pre smartphone era
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You will never be a woman
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Sure it wasn't the best but I wouldn't call it a waste. In fact it had some good insights, like the mass hysteria of people denying Voldemort's return and projecting their animosity onto the whistle blower

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>binging books
disgusting
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Binging? That was while doing chores and school.
>mainstream media is fake news and the truth is found in alternative sources
>If you have natural talent you can succeed even if you drop out of school
>subhumans are happier as slaves

There were some gems throughout to say the least

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