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Anon this is your chance to do something great. Please post your inventions so that I can finally have free energy. 

Also, I need a spaceship to fly to middle earth.
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I'm migrating my other thread here because yours is sticky and sufficiently schizo.

Here's the plan:

1.  Assume that UFO lore is broadly true, while also admitting that there is a lot of BS in the details.
2.  Discuss UFO history.  Read books and physics papers.  Read about crackpot experiments. Deboonk the hoaxes.
3.  Find the least crazy physics effects which might be  consistent with (1).  This won't be easy.  It's going to be some kind of troll physics that would never pass peer review.  Whatever.  Academic physics seems like a treadmill to nowhere.  The best minds of two generations might have been consumed by bullshit.
4.  Brainstorm cheap ways to test troll physics in our basements.  Probably the best we could hope for would be to find a small but real anomaly that could be exploited by someone with more money and better organization.
5.  Profit.  The biggest rewards are for humanity as a whole.  Long term survival, free energy, Space Wild West, ruining the human livestock project, etc.  Just helping a few different groups to go off the reservation would be a huge win for us even if we continue to be basement dwellers.

>Please post your inventions so that I can finally have free energy.
>Also, I need a spaceship

Why not have both?

If UFO lore is to be taken seriously, A UFO must also a free energy device. Not that it must be powered by a free energy device, but the propulsion system itself must be a free energy device. More on the mathematical implications of this later.

According to conventional physics, it would require absurd amounts of energy for a UFO to pull 900 g's and shoot up the edge of space in seconds. 
No machine is 100% efficient at transforming energy. Even a small inefficiency should be enough to melt a UFO, but this doesn't happen. They don't even seem to break a sweat. There doesn't even seem to be any air resistance.

To use a UFO as a free energy device, simply shoot up to the edge of space, hook the UFO to a giant crane with its cable  attached to a generator, and turn off the antigravity.  Troll physics!
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Let's start with one of the main UFO propulsion theories: The mercury vortex engine. Joseph Farrell discusses it in "The SS Brotherhood of the Bell", along with many other things, some of which are bonkers IMHO. He throws a lot of stuff at the wall to see what sticks. This sticks better than most. The basic idea is that the bell was an antigravity test device that used a magnetic field to confine mercury plasma into a donut shape that rotated simultaneously in the ordinary (toroidal) direction and in the smoke ring (poloidal) direction.  Pulses of electricity through the center of the ring caused the vortex to collapse inward, spinning up like a ballerina.

Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism :

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Gravitomagnetic arguments also predict that a flexible or fluid toroidal mass undergoing [accelerating poloidal rotation] will tend to pull matter through the throat (a case of rotational frame dragging, acting through the throat). In theory, this configuration might be used for accelerating objects (through the throat) without such objects experiencing any g-forces.

Consider a toroidal mass with two degrees of rotation (both major axis and minor-axis spin, both turning inside out and revolving). This represents a "special case" in which gravitomagnetic effects generate a chiral corkscrew-like gravitational field around the object. The reaction forces to dragging at the inner and outer equators would normally be expected to be equal and opposite in magnitude and direction respectively in the simpler case involving only minor-axis spin. When both rotations are applied simultaneously, these two sets of reaction forces can be said to occur at different depths in a radial Coriolis field that extends across the rotating torus, making it more difficult to establish that cancellation is complete. 

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I am nowhere near smart enough to derive the field equations for this. For sake of argument I will guess that the lift comes from some weird cross term that resembles

(hot mess) * angular acceleration 1 * angular acceleration 2 * (shifting fudge factors based on radii and shit) ^ [roll 1d6] something something uncancelled terms from non-commutative rotations in a Coriolis field ^ trollface. 

The attached sketch is a mathematical object called a twistor. It's a good representation of what the double rotating vortex should do to spacetime. The main lifting mass would be in the center. There is a Wikipedia page about twistor theory but good luck understanding any of it. IDK if it's even relevant.

Note that if the rotation is only axial or only poloidal, the other angular acceleration is zero, and therefore the entire term is zero. This is why the effect has not been noticed by mainstream science. It hardly ever pops up in a way that would be strong enough to be noticeable.

One of the rotations may or may not have been the nuclear spin, although what it even means for a nucleus to have "spin" is a big handwavey quantum rabbit hole that I don't want to get into. At first I was naively enthusiastic about this idea, then rejected it because reasons (mainly angular acceleration = 0), and am now moving this idea from trash to back burner after learning that Nobel Prizewinning physicist Walter Gerlach was involved with the bell. This would have been right up his alley.

The Ahnenerbe may have discovered the secret in India. Some of their ancient texts read like Buck Rogers sci-fi. Weird stuff. Pic related.

Viktor Schaugerger may have stumbled onto the secret with an  alleged free energy machine that was based on double rotating water vortices. I strongly doubt it could have worked but the Nazis might have thought otherwise. They took an unusual interest in him, considering that he was more of a handwaving new ager than a scientist. 

Next I am going to read The Truth about the Wunderwaffe by Igor Witkowski. Farrel often references it with regards to the mercury vortex engine.
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I didnt know you were this BASED
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Try linking this page on free energy sites four channers are too retarded
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REPOSTAN

Scalar physics is the new paradigm, here is a research center with several very insightful very engineer oriented papers by folk who've spent decades in the field.
http://scalarphysics.com/

Another fantastic new paradigm resource is the Electric Universe aka the Thunderbolts Project
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

I recommend starting with Thomas Minderle's papers and then Tom Bearden's. Also the montalk site is a gold mine, and not just for physics but metaphysics too. There is also 2 science sections, one is research notes, and the other is here
http://montalk.net/science/109/scalar-superpotential-theory
http://montalk.net/science/84/the-biefeld-brown-effect

Furthermore and now getting into (electro-)gravitics in more earnestly

"How I Control Gravitation" by T.T. Brown -- Science & Invention (August 1929)
http://blog.lege.net/content/Gravitator_1926.pdf

There is also a lot of great material on many other over unity technologies, however when the site got converted a lot of content got lost or otherwise made difficult to find -- for this reason I recommend the way back machine/internet archive to access the pages, here are a few

https://web.archive.org/web/20160619221547/https://peswiki.com/directory:vortex
https://web.archive.org/web/20160620171114/http://peswiki.com/os:tesla-meyl-and-jacksons-wireless-aetheric-power-transmission
https://web.archive.org/web/20160619193303/http://peswiki.com/directory:zero-point-energy
https://web.archive.org/web/20160625004201/http://peswiki.com/directory:gravity-motors

Moreover if you wish to dive further into gravity/inertial propulsion/power transmutation-extraction, this is a good book:
Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion: Tesla, UFOs, and Classified Aerospace Technology by Paul A. LaViolette Ph.D.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=ED3827CCAA48F5BD9A1BAF30A9128802

And even without getting too exotic you have just geometric based applications of
http://library.uniteddiversity.coop/Water_and_Sanitation/Hidden_Nature-The_Startling_Insights_of_Viktor_Schauberger.pdf
>Viktor Schauberger is known affectionately by the title water wizard, originally a naturalist and forest warden, discovered many secrets of water and designed many many revolutionary things, pioneering the application of the vortex by simply observing nature and applying what would now be called bio-mimicry, to create super efficient flumes capable of floating not only logs thought to be too big but metalic ores too, insight into perpetual motion and the process/geometries nature uses to sustain and renew itself, spiral ploughs that appropriately charge (and not discharge) soil when tilling for maximum culturing of the micro life within, a great number of other unique things centering around the peculiar properties of water at it's critical point of 4C such as super efficient pipes and other restructured water applications.

Here's some more misc links for those who wish to dig more.

http://www.orgonelab.org/
https://www.americanantigravity.com/
http://www.alienscientist.com/
http://sci-hub.tw/

Archive of old fringesci thread https://web.archive.org/web/20220429043338/https://16chan.xyz/library/res/212.html

Good tinkering anon!
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If you read the pages above, Farrell states that the Nazi Bell had two counter-rotating cylinders to spin up the mercury.  He is not sure whether they were stacked or concentric.  I think they were stacked.  It would explain the shape of the bell, it would allow easy balancing of torques, and it would allow for a good z-pinch to compress and spin up the plasma even further.  Small radii means large angular accelerations.  

Control would be through changing magnetic confinement fields that squeeze the plasma in different places along the vortex rings, thus controlling the poloidal angular accelerations, or even reversing the poloidal spin.  The effect would be analagous to the double swashplate system in double rotor helicopters.  Fields could be changed quickly so maneuverability could be amazing.  

This design does not allow for a crew compartment because the crew would get mashed against the ceiling during those extreme bugout maneuvers.  A crewed UFO would need the crew to be well separated from Bell-like lifting devices (think a quadcopter, or maybe a TR-3B) or it would need to be shaped like a standard saucer, with the main vortex ring near the edge and smaller vortex rings around the crew area to maintain comfy g's.  The inner and outer vortices would be counter-rotating in both directions.  Most of the saucer's mass should be in its flanks between the vortices.  This design would have better performance than a TR-3B.  The disadvantage is that the z-pinch would no longer work.  

An interesting side effect of the saucer design is that with the right configuration, it could use its engines as a tractor beam!
The large outer vortex could overpower the effects of the smaller ones at a distance, while the small ones working in the opposite direction would be strongest at very short distance, thus making sure abductees don't bump their heads! I'm working on a diagram for this.  It's turning into an epic and time-consuming meme.

Here are some falsifiable predictions of this hypothesis:
-The tractor beam only works at distances up to a few saucer diameters at most.
-The light is just a light, or possibly a very rapidly strobed rangefinder for feedback control.
-Trees will bend towards the tractor beam; leaves and debris may get sucked up onto the underside of the UFO.
-It's not a conveyor belt.  People will get separated.  It's safest for only one person to ride the tractor beam at a time.
-It would take a lot of finesse to stop people from spinning around.   
-If a saucer hovers close over water without trying to suck it up, it will make a slight ring-shaped depression surrounding a ring-shaped mound with a dimple in the center.

>>30
Welome, and thanks for the effort post!  I already have La Violette's book.  Maybe I will read that one next since you think it's good.  Have a pic of a Coler coil.  I know nothing about it.  Just saw it in Farrell's book. 

>>12
I visited some electrical free energy and electric universe forums about 10 years ago and they were retarded too.  Maybe they're not all like that, IDK.  One free energy device that  intrigues me is the permanent magnet motor. I barely did any homework on it, so don't take my interest as an endorsement.

I would rather not spam links to this place because I might get Amy Eskridge'd before a crucial brain dump or experiment.  Of course some spread is nececessary if it's to worthy autists.  

Interview with Amy Eskridge
https://twitter.com/JustXAshton/status/1751290345671815333
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>permanent magnet motor
QRD?
Ourchan discussion is good today
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Reposting all images from my second post because REEEEEEEEEEEEasons. 

>>34
>QRD?
A QRD is not possible at this time because I can't wrap my head around this thing.  Pic related.  I have 7 pages that read like this plus 2 pages of drawings, which I will post if anyone seconds the motion.  The underlines are not mine.  I am interested in it because the double rotation principle might be involved, with electron spins in the magnets giving the poloidal rotation.  Electrons weigh thousands of times less than nuclei but they are also far easier to manipulate.  Also, unique magnetic effects of niobium superconductors are mentioned near the bottom of the first page.  Ning Li used a rotating niobium superconductor in her antigravity experiment. Niobium is interesting not just for its superconductivity, but because it's all one isotope (niobium-93), which has a very high nuclear spin (9/2).  
Take all this with a big grain of salt. I am probably missing something important.  

Another EM device that might use the double rotation principle is the Roden coil (this is NOT the sketch in the images).  A Roden coil can levitate and spin a metal ball in the center.  This is probably an ordinary electromagnetic effect similar to that of an induction heater.  The key test would be to see if it can levitate a rock.  I am not hopeful.  Contrary to popular belief, electrons do not spiral through the Roden coil at the speed of light.  They move less than 1mm/s on average. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift_velocity

Keep in mind that any EM device that relies purely on Maxwell's equations cannot be a free energy device.  This is because electricity and magnetism are conservative forces (a physics term that means that a particle's energy changes as a function of starting point and destination, in a way that is independent of the path it takes, and thus its potential energy is well defined). Noether's Theorem states that if a force is conservative and not time dependent (i.e. it can't be turned on or off), then energy must be conserved.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem

>inb4 you can turn off an electric field 
Not really.  You can only mask it with the electric field from an opposite charge.  This interaction must be considered too.
>inb4 you can turn off a magnetic field
Magnetic forces act tangential to particle velocities so they do no work, plus the law of magnetism itself can't be turned off, and thus energy is conserved either way.

Any device based entirely on Newtonian mechanics and Newtonian gravity also cannot be a free energy device for similar reasons.  Fluid mechanics is based on Newtonian mechanics. No free lunch there.  

If you want to build a free energy device, you would save a lot of time if you first try to find a reason why its physics might go beyond all these things.

Double rotation might give path dependent gravitational effects.  If so, Noether's Theorem says that energy conservation would not be required!
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>>7
What have you learned about the Biefeld-Brown effect and the ((( Ionocrafts )))
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I forgot to mention that the vortex drive might violate momentum conservation and Newton's third law due to Noether's Theorem and the uncancelled reaction forces referenced in my second post and also here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism

>inb4 heresy
Here's why I don't think energy conservation and Newton's laws need to be sacrosanct: I don't think there's really anything to conserve, because energy and momentum aren't physically real.  Nothing is.  It's just math.  

Matter, energy, space, time, perception and forces are literally just math.  We're living in some kind of giant mathematical structure that has an inherent and Platonic existence in the same way that the prime numbers and the Mandelbrot set have inherent existences without any kind of computer to calculate them. We don't even need to live in a simulation.  Physics looks like math because physics IS math. This idea also neatly sidesteps existential questions about the Big Bang because the math has always existed; it sidesteps questions about fine tuning physical constants by saying that all possible universes exist but most don't contain sentient observers; and it sidesteps existential questions about quantum mechanics by taking the multiverse interpretation from most extravagant to least extravagant.

I don't pretend to know exactly what this mathematical structure is.  If you're curious about the subject check out The Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark, or whatever Stephen Wolfram is up to right now.  He's not an easy read.

We always see that energy and momentum are conserved due to mathematical symmetries + Noether's Theorem. Noether's Theorem is more fundamental than the conservation laws taught in Physics 101.  The conservation laws are due to mathematical symmetries which might be broken under the right conditions.  Symmetry breaking is a thing in physics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_breaking  There are various types.  The vortex drive would be an example of explicit symmetry breaking.

>>43
The Biefeld-Brown effect is the other main contender for the attention of UFO researchers.  I think it's a type of ion drive that operates by ordinary physics.  Ion drives can be very efficient but they can't violate conservation of energy, they could never explain the performance of a UFO, and in this case it won't work in space.  I haven't read any books about electrogravity and I don't want to speculate about non-standard physics before doing so, because I will say retarded things and have to make corrections later.  Properly testing the Biefeld-Brown effect would require ~30,000 volts and a lab grade vaccuum chamber so there are very few anons who could test it.  

I want to go after the vortex drive first. It's more accessible to anons and it has a logic I can understand.  Here is the TL;DR thus far:

It's extremely difficult to solve the equations for spacetime distortions around an accelerating, double rotating vortex.  Even mainstream physicicsts have admitted that they aren't sure if basic things like Newton's 3rd law would still apply. Energy conservation might not apply either due to path dependent effects.  Noether's Theorem says this is OK and Noether's Theorem is more fundamental than conservation laws.  There's nothing physical to conserve because it's all just math anyways.

Compare this to the most knee-jerk establishment narrative from a few years ago:

Energy conservation and Newton's laws are sacrosanct. Saucers and Tic Tacs fly in ways that violate these laws, therefore they can't be real. Therefore UFOs are all weather balloons and swamp gas reflecting off Venus.  Anyone who says otherwise is a nut who should be kept out of important jobs. The government would never pimp us out to aliens.  They would never keep us dependent on energy sources they control.  They would never keep us as slaves on a prison planet.  Read Project Blue Book and accept that there's nothing to see here, goyim.

The first option is less crazy.  Any new options should be compared to this.
>>7
What do you think about Element 115-299 as the power source, as Bob Lazar and the offshore drone factory anon talked about? I doesn't have to be free energy/zero point energy, it could be just a new very very energy dense fuel. 

Also some new plasma physics which I don't really understand. Might be interesting though
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XP635eqIzvg
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For under $1000, YOU can do gravity experiments in your mom's basement!  Unlock one of the great secrets of the ages with this simple trick that was discovered in 1783.  Big Science hates this.  Big Energy hates this.  Big Government hates this.  Be the first CHUD to punk them all.  Join the basement-dwelling mad scientist revolution today!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_experiment

In 1798, Henry Cavendish used a torsion balance to measure the gravitational field of two 158kg lead spheres.  He calculated the gravitational constant G to an accuracy of 1%.  This was an exceptional feat.  Realistically we could scale it down and even if we measure G to 50% accuracy that's still good enough to know we're measuring gravity and not some other force.  

To make your own torsion balance you will need good tools, good craftsmanship skills, a laser pointer, and a few kg's of heavy metals.  Solid lead spheres are the best.  Denser objects give better accuracy for their mass, and spheres make the math a lot easier.  In a pinch, two ducktaped pantyhose eggs filled with birdshot should work fairly well. Set up the experiment in a stable environment such as a basement.  Torsion balances are fiddly AF so you will need to build it well and keep it happy.  Things like sudden temperature changes, static electricity, magnetism and nearby massive objects (such as 400lb hackers) will mess up results.  

There are multiple kinds of magnetism you will need to consider, mainly diamagnetism, paramagnetism, and Lenz's Law. Many basement antigravity researchers have rediscovered diamagnetism or Lenz's Law.  Paramagnetism can even cause very slight buoyancy effects due to paramagnetic oxygen in the air. If you can't get rid of magnetic effects completely, you can rule them out by seeing if you can reverse the effect (you shouldn't be able to do this for magnetism, but you should for a vortex device) and you can see if your result changes if you put iron plates between your devices and the torsion balance. Check out the shielding effect yourself with a magnet. Remember to recalibrate the experiment due to the extra gravity of the plates.  

Check out https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/210511/inaccuracy-at-measuring-gravity-constant-with-cavendish-experiment for more examples of things you need to consider.

**there are strong sources of error from the surrounding masses: furniture, walls, peoples around. To reduce them, you should ensure that everything has rectangular symmetry with respect to the two axes of the experiment up to a distance of few meters from the pendulum, and remove/symmetrise large masses beyond that distance up to twice that distance.

...the torsion wire itself which can "unwind". It is imperative that you eliminate air currents and effects of static electricity, and that you observe the drift in the setup over many cycles - preferably automatically. A web cam looking at the reflection of a laser pointer produces an image that can be trivially analyzed to give you the deflection curve over many days.**

You can buy a well made, very sensitive torsion balance for a few thousand dollars.  The best ones are capable of measuring a trillionth of a g, IF that gravitational pull comes as a horizontal twist.  This is perfect for the kinds of experiments we need to do.

I have six different experiments in mind right now.  Each experiment has two different configurations, each with a control plus several different ways to make the device.   I can't do all these experiments.  I will list them in order of difficulty, from easiest to hardest, with the hardest ones generally being the most likely to give interesting results IMHO. Anons are welcome to come up with more experiments. Suggesting an experiment here is much easier than writing a grant proposal.

>>43  
I thought of one for you. 
Experiment 5 involves the Biefeld-Brown effect. It will require a large, custom built, airtight torsion balance, a taser, some high voltage capacitors and rectifier diodes, a voltage display, a photodiode for activation from outside the torsion balance, a large aluminized mylar bag, some other circuits, and a vaccuum pump. Obviously not easy.  Maybe I should do some more reading first.
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Watched about 1/3 of that video about plasma physics and IDK WTF he is talking about either but I'm pretty sure they're not making heavy elements by fusion inside micro wormholes.

I just listened to this interview with Bob Lazar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy-T_BsYLhE
Here is my synopsis of it.

Predicting existence of Element 115:  True but not a feat.  Making new elements in particle accelerators has been a thing for decades.  Bob admits this.

Element 115 has a stable isotope: probably bullshit but not certain.  Its closest known neighbors are all so radioactive they are useless, and they show no signs of superpowers.

Element 115 can be used to make antimatter (positrons) in a particle accelerator: Bullshit, because this is a very inefficient process that would melt the UFO at the energies required, and element 115 would be only marginally better for making positrons than other heavy elements like Uranium and Thorium which are much more common and stable.

Positrons annihilate with ordinary electrons and the energy is captured by a 100% efficient thermoelectric generator: BULLSHIT.

A small UFO can have enough shielding to protect its crew from the gamma rays and also neutrons that will be released by all this craziness:  BULLSHIT.

Gravitational waveguides: BULLSHIT.

That's 4.99 invocations of the tooth fairy in one physics problem.
BULLSHIT.
Every time he opened his mouth he put his foot in it. He should have gone for something stranger and so far out there it can't be deboonked, like strange matter, ud-matter or metastable neutronium, cosmic strings threading quantum wormholes and shit, or just say he didn't know.

Standard practice in theoretical physics is that if you are at a serious impasse, you may invoke the tooth fairy ONCE, just to see what she does.

I invoked the tooth fairy in the form of an equation that's super difficult to solve, and having the solution is as hazardous to one's health as having unauthorized dirt on Hillary Clinton.  I made an educated guess at visualizing the tooth fairy.  That was enough for her to come through and invoke some of her relatives.  Technically I only invoked one magic fairy.
Lazar is a glowie
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>>63
 Winner. People always have to vet the source they are going off. Many whistleblower and leaker celebs in the decades following the 60's were scammers. 

Ex-Fed or current? Toss
Defector? Toss
Conspiratard? Toss
New age? Toss
MSM Journalist? Toss
Pseud academic? Toss
Visibly midwit or retarded? Toss

Going through their background will always alert you to what their game is. These Joe Rogan characters are jumping the shark, because the current generation of internet consumers doesn't have a sufficient timeline to measure reputations
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>>64
This.

I would also add "Charges people thousands of dollars to go out in the desert with him and pray to aliens, then pays a pilot to drop flares". That's Steven Greer.  

As far as the government is concerned, there are four main ways to keep the public in the dark. 

The Joseph Stalin way is to pretend you're not interested in UFOs, let people come out of the woodwork, and send them all to Siberia.

The Area 51 way is to keep everything locked down and extremely compartmentalized until nobody knows WTF they are doing, and costs go up 100x (which is very good for defense contractors).

The Mirage Men / Men in Black way is to intimidate anyone who might know something.  Surveil them, gangstalk them, gaslight them, use microwaves to put voices in their heads.  Drive them into the nuthouse. 

The Bob Lazar way is to have front men serve as fake leakers, backed up by a bunch of failed science fiction writers (worse than L. Ron Hubbard) who churn out reams and reams of bullshit to use as flypaper for UFO researchers.  Fake documents, Star Trek mumbo jumbo, out of focus videos, channelings, whatever.  Quantity is more important than quality.

I think this last technique is the best option overall.
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Curious. Do you believe in UFO's? Take my book as well, it's written for people who want to believe but also has the straight goods and is generally less fantastic than most of them

I suspect the disinformation techniques you are talking about are everywhere in the declassification field. Probably even in the as of yet still classified files as well, just to keep their own people guessing and to confuse infiltrators.
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This is a cheap and easy experiment inspired by the ideas of Viktor Schauberger, who I don't give much credence to, because he was prone to woowoo.  Consider this experiment as the physics equivalent of a lottery ticket. Curl G =/= 0 wins a path towards free energy.

The idea is to stuff spiraled metal electrical conduit down a garden hose, then wrap the hose around a hose reel, so that water will do some double spiraling as it flows through the hose, and hopefully induce a slight swirling motion in water in a bowl above the hose coil.  I strongly suggest using some kind of flow control (see variants below).

Use 2x4's, some plywood, and some offcuts to build a platform to hold the hose reel.  You may have to remove the crank and the stand.  Attach offcuts to the platform legs as shown.  Rest the ends of the platform legs on four pillows.  Put a baking pan on the platform and the hose reel on the baking pan.  Run a piece of gutter from the lowest corner of the baking pan to your sump pump. 

Put a coffee table or a small platform above the hose reel, with a couple inches of clearance.  Use those little felt pads to make sure it doesn't wobble at all.  Put a towel folded in half on the table, and an open cardboard box on the towel.  Remove the flaps for convenience.  Inside the box, put a large aluminum pot half full of water.  

Put an aluminum pastry tin (pic related) upside down in the water, with a steel BB in a tiny dimple in the center.  Put a circular neodymium magnet on the flat end of an eye bolt and suspend the eye bolt on two strings running diagonally to the corners of the box, and secured by clothespins.  Standard double stranded kite string is fine. Cover the top of the box with saran wrap.  Lower the magnet into the pot until it attracts the BB enough to keep the pastry tin floating in the center, but don't lower it enough to lift the BB (that will come later).  Set up a camera so that you can see the experiment from a distance.  Use either a security camera mounted on the ceiling, or a mirror on the ceiling and a tripod some distance away.

Take snapshots at regular intervals.  Wait for the water to completely stop moving.  Lift the BB.  Leave the magnet in place and secure the strings again.  Keep taking snapshots for a few hours to make sure the pastry tin isn't moving or rotating. Then run the hose for another few hours while continuing to take snapshots.  Let the water rest after each experiment.

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The pillows and the sprawling hose platform will isolate the table from vibrations.  The offcuts will stop the baking pan from vibrating off.  Offcuts attached to the legs will mean they, and the hose reel, can be removed without disturbing the pot of water.  The table clearance should be enough to make it easy to remove the hose reel while keeping the bottom of the pot close to the hose.  The hose reel should fit between the wider legs of the coffee table. The hose reel will leak a little.  The guttering will keep your pillows dry, and will reduce temperature differences and the air currents they cause.  The towel will insulate the pot further and dampen vibrations.  The cardboard box will deflect air currents while also being breatheable so that condensation doesn't drip from the saran wrap onto the pastry tin. The pot has a flat bottom, is about the right size, is smooth, round for easy water circulation, and it's made of metal so it will draw stray electric fields away from its center, and it's the same metal as the pastry tin so there will be no chemical reactions causing charge buildup as in a battery.

The magnet is kept suspended above the water because it will cause a very slight depression in the water due to diamagnetism of the water, while also slightly attracting the pastry tin due to the paramagnetism of aluminum.  This will stop the pastry tin from floating to the edge and resting there.  The fiddliest part of the experiment will probably be stopping the pastry tin from floating to the edge. If this is a problem, you may lower the magnet some more after lifting the BB.  The diagonal threads are attached to the sturdy box corners instead of the flexible edges.  They stop the magnet from spinning or swinging, which would cause eddy currents in the pastry tin, and move it slightly. The pastry tin's round shape stops it from preferring any direction due to unaccounted minuscule forces.  The pastry tin being upside down and having the foil cross pieces mean it will be much more strongly influenced by water motions than air motions.
The camera setup is to make it so you don't disturb the experiment with body heat, air currents or vibrations.  
The memeworthy design drawn on top is so that rotation of the pastry tin is easy for the camera to see.
 
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There is surely overkill here, but I already tried a half assed version of this experiment and it didn't work.

The hose was wrapped around a protein powder jar, and suspended inside the protein powder jar was a Utz snack can with water and a foam toilet brush inside.  The snack can was suspended from the ceiling of my friends' garden shed by a PVC pipe.  A double stranded thread held the toilet brush upright. Double stranded thread is by far the worst kind for this because weight unwinds it. It really should have been 3 or 4 braided strands, or a very fine wire, but these were not available.  The thread was adjustable by a nail and a hole at the top of the pipe.  There was a small fragment of a mirror glued to the toilet brush so I could shine a laser pointer at it.  Basically it was an attempt at a torsion balance but without the beam and therefore without any attempt to measure gravity.  I was only trying to test if gravity's curl was zero as standard physics says it should be.  It was... to low accuracy.  The biggest problems were the thread, vibrations, and the laser going through the Utz can instead of a proper piece of glass.

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Advantages of Experiment 1 over other experiments:

Low cost
Nothing high tech
High working mass (the water in the hose)
Fun and educational for the whole family!

Disadvantages:

Woowoo
Water is much slower than plasma
At steady flow, both angular accelerations are zero, so the basic version won't work even by my own vortex drive hypothesis.

Variants:
You don't have to do all of these. You don't have to do them in order.  It would be good if you started by doing all the controls. Variants generally go from easy but least interesting to most interesting but hard.

1.0.0 Try it with no conduit inside the hose (control).
1.0.1 Pull out a loop of hose and wind half the hose in one direction, half in the other direction, so that the vortices cancel (another control).
1.1.0 Steady flow with conduit, no half reversed hose (another  control because there's no angular acceleration)
1.1.1 Instead of steady flow, try forcing the water through with a ram pressure pump.  This will cause a surge in pressure (and acceleration) followed by a slower drop off. The surge should matter more.  
1.1.2 Slow flow increase followed by sudden stop can be done by changing a few connections. 
1.2.1 If any 1.1 shows results, try reversing the hose flow without reversing the hose.  The water spin should reverse.
1.2.2 If any 1.1 shows results, try reversing the entire hose but not the flow. This will have the same effect as reversing only the conduit, which would be more annoying than buying two  couplings and reversing the hose. The water spin should stay the same.
1.2.3 If any 1.1's show results, repeat 1.0.1 with the same ram pump configuration. The spin should be much reduced this time.
1.3.1 Use a large funnel instead of hose+conduit.  Schauberger would approve. Send the water through the gutter to your sump pump.
1.3.2 Glue sand to the inside of the funnel to slow the velocity there.
1.3.3 If the funnel gives good results, reverse the spiraling direction and see if the water in the pan reverses its spin direction.
1.4.1 Replace the hose coil with a 3D printed annular disk with a water reservoir around its edge connected to multiple small, in-spiraling tubes that get narrower as they approach the center. Tubes should have spiral ridges or vanes on their walls.  Print the disk as two halves that can be sealed and bolted together in many places so water pressure doesn't pry them apart. You can bolt a piece of plastic over the side that you don't want the water to spill out of, and on the water side attach a plastic screw-on Utz lid with the center cut out.  Attach to a bottomless Utz jar. This will stop side spraying. Funnel the water to the gutter.  The importance of the disk is that inspiraling of the tubes causes toroidal angular acceleration, and narrowing of the tubes causes both poloidal angular acceleration toroidal angular acceleration.  You do not need a ram pump with this, although you could use one for added effect.
1.4.2 Reverse the disk and put the piece of plastic on the other side.  The water in the pot should spin the opposite way.
1.4.3 See if a ram pump increases the effect.
1.4.4 Replace the coffee table and everything on it with a torsion balance.  You will probably have to make a special stand or pyramidal structure for it. If you hang it from the ceiling beam, you will have to stop people from walking on the floor above. Repeat the controls and your favorite other experiment(s).
1.4.5 Make another disk, connect it to another hose and set up the torsion balance in the Y configuration. Make sure the disks are oriented so that their poloidal rotations aren't working at cross purposes. See >>57 . 
1.4.6 Now reverse one of the disks. Poloidal rotations should now be working at cross purposes and the torsion balance should not move.

Feel free to make suggestions or ask for clarifications.  I know this is a lot and this is only Experiment 1 of 7. 

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>>66
I believe.  That's why I reject the false dichotomy of being forced to either dismiss UFOs, or try to fit saucers and tic-tacs to known physics (protip: You can't).  I'm treating physics itself as a "least-scizo fit" to noisy observational data.  This approach is leading in some interesting directions.  
>inb4 least schizo is still schizo
Physics is already schizo.  Try making Quantum Mechanics take his meds.  Everyone who tried got their face ripped off, including Einstein.
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Did you make this image and experiment?
We should have a list of the simplest free energy and anti gravity devices experiments and their related info. 
1. Biefeld brown effect craft are easy to make and there are plenty of tutorials.
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This cheap and technologically modest experiment involves using a magnetic field to make an oscillating mercury vortex inside a circular fluorescent bulb.  It's the easiest experiment that involves an actual mercury vortex. I will attempt this one first.

You will need a torsion balance and some circular fluorescent bulbs.  NOT the spiral ones, because they spiral back on themselves; you need something that would be used for a desk lamp or a bathroom ceiling lamp.  The bulb size will be determined by the size of the beam on your torsion balance.  A good size would be an inner bulb diameter somewhere between 15%-60% larger than the length of the beam.  This will allow you to use the same bulbs in both the Y and Z configurations.  I have updated the torsion balance diagram for this. >>57

The basic idea is very simple. Just wrap magnet wire around the bulbs and power it from the same AC voltage that powers the bulbs.  AC voltage makes the mercury ions slosh back and forth in the bulbs, thus providing toroidal angular acceleration, and at the same time, increasing the magnetic field compresses the plasma and also tightens the spiral arc of the ions, thus providing poloidal angular acceleration. 

The most complicated part of this experiment will be making circuits that reshape the current through the magnet wire in an asymmetric way. Without this, any antigravity effects will be reversed whenever the AC voltage reverses.  We can make sure the poloidal angular acceleration does its inevitable reversals whenever the toroidal angular acceleration is close to zero.

If this experiment is successful it could also be used to test whether it's mercury that drives the antigravity effect, or electrons. At first you would think it would be the mercury because its nucleus is about 3600 times more massive than an electron, but the much lighter electrons have correspondingly faster velocities, tighter spirals and higher angular accelerations that all work together and more than compensate for the low electron mass.  Maybe the Bell used mercury for simple practical reasons like it can be spun up the wall of a rotating cylinder, and it readily forms a plasma, but it's not magic like the alleged Element 115.  Electrons causing an antigravity effect would make the effect be the reverse of what would be expected from the motions of mercury ions.  Charge separation in the plasma could also be important in ways that I don't understand.  Plasma physics is hard.

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Advantages over other experiments:

Low cost unless you have to buy a torsion balance and an oscilloscope
Actual mercury vortex
Mercury ions travel hundreds of meters/second, electrons travel over 1000km/s
https://www.quora.com/How-fast-do-electrons-travel-in-a-typical-fluorescent-tube-How-fast-do-electrons-travel-in-a-neon-tube-Is-it-a-snail-s-pace-like-drift-velocity-in-conductors
AC power sloshes everything back and forth 60 times/second, giving high angular accelerations
Easy to reconfigure or rewire

Disadvantages:

Requires some custom circuits.  I will put up a circut diagram after verifying that it works.
Very low working mass (~10mg of mercury per bulb?) means antigravity effects would have to be very strong to be noticeable.
Can't do Z-pinch

Variants:

3.0.0 In the Y configuration, have the magnet wire current track the bulb voltage.  They are both 60Hz sine waves, in phase, zero average voltage.  There should be no torsion balance motion.  This is a control experiment to check for unwanted electromagnetic effects.  Remember to always let the torsion balance find its happy place under natural gravity before turning everything on.
3.0.1 Y configuration, asymmetric magnet wire current, poloidal rotations cancelling each other (i.e. one of them is reversed relative to the Y configuration).  There should be no motion of the torsion balance.  This is a control.
3.0.2 If either of the two previous controls showed motion, try surrounding the torsion balance box with two sheets of steel bolted to each other and not touching the torsion balance box. Test the steel box to see if it can block magnetic fields. Recalibrate the torsion balance and try again.  You should get much less motion.
3.1.1.  Y configuration, asymmetric magnet wire current. You are looking for a result here.  You may need to use the oscilloscope to fiddle with the phase between the tube voltage and the magnet wire current.
3.1.2.  Z configuration, asymmetric magnet wire current.  You are looking for a result here.

>>106
>Did you make this image and experiment?
Yes. I'm not aware of anyone else who has tried it. Same with the one in this post, and the others that are coming.  I'm not aware of any basement dweller who has even used a torsion balance.  They all try a scale, which is a good way to rediscover diamagnetism or induced magnetism (Lenz's Law), and any antigravity effect gets washed out by ordinary gravity.  The right way to do it is to do extremely sensitive tests for things that shouldn't be there like sideways gravity and swirling gravity.
>Biefeld-Brown effect craft are easy to make
The hard part is testing it in a vaccuum, which is what will be necessary to distinguish between an ion drive and and anti-gravity drive.  Experiment 5 will require a homemade torsion balance with the beam having two Biefeld-Brown devices powered by a taser, Faraday caged, and suspended in a vaccuum chamber.  Everyone is encouraged to do whatever they are interested in though. We might learn something. Even if we find nothing, the quest is better than the video games we would have played.
>We should have a list of the simplest free energy and anti-gravity devices
Yes.  
The Troll Physics is out there.
Find the Troll Physics.
That's the quest.
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You don't actually need a vortex to get double rotation. Vibration on two separate arcs can also count, because there are still angular accelerations, and physics doesn't "know" the difference at any instant in time.  The idea here is to get a tuning fork to vibrate while also bouncing up and down like a seesaw. 

Start by getting an introductory physics textbook that covers the following topics:  Angular momentum, torque, moment of inertia, simple harmonic oscillator, damped+driven harmonic oscillator, waves, sound, and resonance.  Don't get the latest edition because it will be a ripoff.  This experiment will work better for you if you understand the physics at the level of being able to do basic calculations about your unique setup.  The calculations won't be difficult but I really don't want to do all the equations and caveats in MS Paint and for this whole project it would be good for you to become at least Level 2 physicists anyway (For our purposes, Level 1 is Newton's Laws).  In preparation for other experiments, consider grinding your way up to Level 3 in physics (electricity + magnetism) and a comparable level in electrical engineering (learn basic circuits, waveforms, and high voltage). 

To do this experiment you will need an aluminum tuning fork.  Short lengths and high frequencies are good because they give higher angular accelerations.  Drill a hole in the handle.  Use dowels, rubber bands and a strong spring to mount the fork on a wooden frame as shown.  Make sure you can strike it sideways and still get a tone.  

Put piezoelectric disks alongside the tines. Use a function generator or an oscilloscope to send sinusoidal voltages to the piezoelectric disks.  Fiddle with the function generator to see what happens when you are near resonance with the tuning fork.

Use a Dremel tool or other high speed motor to spin a triangular cam under the ends of the tuning fork tines.  Make the cam from a hard plastic like PVC.  You will need a counterweight or another cam on the opposite side of the shaft.  The idea is that the cam will be more likely to bounce the tuning fork upwards (i.e. give a sudden poloidal angular acceleration) when the tines are in the inward part of their cycle (where the toroidal angular acceleration is maximized).  Therefore the effects of the sudden poloidal angular accelerations won't cancel each other out over time.  Meanwhile, if the spring strength is such that it takes a few tuning fork periods to return for another bounce, any effects from the downward arc will be mostly cancelled.  This is what you want.  This will be the focus of your physics calculations.  See the diagrams for Experiment 3.  the general concept is the same, but with a strong element of randomness.

You will have to make two of these devices to test them in the Y configuration.  The Z configuration is not expected to give results because the tines vibrate in opposite ways.

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Advantages over other experiments:

Relatively simple
High accelerations of the tuning fork are possible, up to hundreds of g's
Fewer worries about magnetism (this is another advantage of Experiment 1 BTW)

Disadvantages:

Low working mass
Requires a few Physics 101 problem sets' worth of calculations that you will have to work through yourself.
Won't work in the Z configuration
Doesn't have good control over poloidal motion

Variants:

2.0.0 Try it in the Z configuration just to make sure nothing happens.
2.0.1 Try it with the cam motor off just to make sure nothing happens.
2.1.0 Try it with a flat cam just to make sure it doesn't work (bounce timing will be too random)
2.1.1 This is the main experiment with the triangular cam.  You may notice that you get a better response when the frequency on the piezo disks is slightly above the tuning fork's resonant frequency, because the tuning fork will be out of phase with the piezo disks, and the triangular cam will give the tines some outward kick with each bounce. 
2.1.2 Try it with a V-shaped cam.  This will make it more likely to bounce when the tines are splayed, but this shouldn't matter, except that it will probably make the best response be slightly below the resonant frequency, because the tuning fork will be in phase with the piezo disks. 
2.2.1 Repeat 2.1.1 but with a higher harmonic of the tuning fork.  This makes the poloidal vibration arc and toroidal vibration arc have different radii, which is probably important, because the Super Rigorous Equation in my first post involves fudge factors based on radii. I suspect the poloidal and toroidal radii need to be different to get a result. 
2.2.2 Repeat 2.1.2 but with a higher harmonic of the tuning fork.
2.3.1 If you still haven't seen anything interesting by now, try replacing the piezo disks with thick-wired electromagnets with ferrite rod cores, and superglue small circular neodymium magnets into holes you drill in the tips of the tines. This is not ideal because eddy currents will probably cause damping anyways so you will have to make the electromagnets strong, but you also want them to have high switching speed which means you have to use ferrite which makes for much weaker magnets than iron.
2.4.1 If you get results from any of the above, try fiddling with the cam motor speed.
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Anon what are your best leads for Troll Physics?
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Weren't there some patents that got declassified having to do with energy around the time Trump left office from his first term?
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I should have spent more time thinking about what was by far the easiest part of the Super Rigorous Equation- the "Hot Mess" term. It's probably -4pi*G*m/c^2, which is -9.3x10^-27 for a one kilogram mass, with no other factors accounted for.  

This is so tiny that a torsion balance will never be able to detect a purely gravitational anomaly even if it exists. Experiments 1 and 2 should not work at all.

Experiment 3 is still in the running, but it will probably need to be modified by using a homemade torsion balance with two additional vortex rings instead of lead balls.  This will complicate things considerably.  For starters, one would need to suspend the beam with a long triple braid (NOT twist) of the thinnest copper which can still power two of the rings with standard AC. Testing the Biefeld-Brown effect is now starting to look easier than Experiment 3.

In working on the Super Rigorous Equation I also realized that the units don't work correctly if two angular accelerations are multiplied.  They need to be angular velocities, or there needs to be one combined angular acceleration, but projected onto the z axis.  In reading various papers it seems that angular acceleration is the way to go, but I am not certain of this. If there is only one angular acceleration involved, then it begs the question of why the effect is so elusive. I will have to come back to the Super Rigorous Equation at some point because I obviously don't understand it very well. 

I am reluctant to spend too much time and money on experiments without fully understanding the theory of the double rotating vortex, but at the same time, I know that I will never fully understand the theory because other people who are smarter than me have tried and failed. The Wikipedia page on gravitoelectromagnetism says "modeling this complex behavior as a curved spacetime problem has yet to be done and is believed to be very difficult".  

If I cannot be Maxwell, maybe I can be Faraday?  Maybe we can all be Faraday, doing a bunch of cheap but clever experiments until something works?

The way forward is to make sure our experiments are not purely gravitational.  There must be separated charges that move differently, which implies a high voltage, or there must be strong magnetic fields to align nuclear spins and use them as part of a double rotation mechanism.  Somewhere in the strangely distorted double rotating spacetime there might be an effect which violates conservation laws, and is amplified by a charge imbalance.  The gravitational constant is tiny but the Coulomb constant is huge.  We need to make the Coulomb constant our friend.

Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Let's take comfort in considering the origins of the magnetic field.  It actually comes from special relativity causing very slight charge imbalances in different reference frames. Imagine two wires near each other, with their electrons moving in through them at 1 mm/s which is typical of electrical currents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift_velocity ).  Assume the wires are electrically neutral in your frame, i.e. there are the same number of positive and negative charges per length.  However, in the frame of the electrons in one of the wires, the positive charges in the other wire are closer together due to the Lorentz contraction, gamma = 1/(1-v^2/c^2)^1/2 = 1+5.55x10^-24. The electrons in the opposite wire spread out by a similarly small amount. Therefore there is a charge inbalance of one part in 90 billion trillion.  This is enough to pull the wires together.  We attribute this to the magnetic field, but it's really just the electric field from a different frame of reference.  Note that there must be current in both wires for there to be a magnetic force.  The total force includes a product of both velocities (i.e. currents). Note also that if we assume that the magnetic field is fundamental, we can do this problem in reverse and derive something that behaves like the electric field.  Thus electricity and magnetism are unified, i.e. they are different aspects of the same fundamental force. It's very elegant physics. Here is a good YouTube video on this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FE0Z4lov7Y

The technological applications of magnetism rely heavily on unique materials such as iron that can align their electron spins so as to greatly amplify magnetic fields.  There is no indication of there being an analogous material for gravity.  There is no indication of mercury being such a material.  Mercury is good for making plasma.  Its charges separate easily.  That's what makes it special. Consider again the Nazi Bell, with its counter-rotating mercury vortices and its pulsed high voltage. It hints at some kind of analogy to the charge imbalance mechanism described above.

>>165
Antigravity researchers Ning Li, Eugene Podlenkov, Biefeld/Brown and also Martin Tajmar are all worth looking into IMHO.  This is not to say that I endorse their work, just that I have not deboonked them.  Same goes for the permanent magnet motor. There are a lot of scammers and botched experiments out there so you should be cynical about what counts as a lead.  Assume it's bogus until proven otherwise.  But somewhere out there, possibly unpublished, there must be something that ISN'T bogus.  

BTW I am not a fan of Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower, bridge rectifier based "free" energy devices, the Hutchinson Effect, Mike McCulloch, and probably others who I don't remember off the top of my head.

>>166
I haven't heard of these.
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>>166
All disinfo bullshit
>>167
Tell me what you know about the permanent magnetic motor
What one are you talking about
Do you know how he says it works?
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I just read Electro-Gravitic Systems by Thomas Valone. It pissed me off. So much gibberish. So many misplaced hopes in Big Science. The book is worthless except for appendices with details about T. T. Brown's experiments.

Fuck Grand Unified Field Theory
Fuck String Theory
Fuck giant particle accelerators
Fuck antimatter reactors
Fuck your favorite dark matter particle
Fuck theoretical physics in general
Fuck the space station and their ant farms and shit
Fuck Lockheed
Fuck Boeing
Fuck Globohomo Megacorp
Fuck naive crackpot theories like negative mass
Fuck tiny effects like the Casimir Effect and Unruh Radiation
Fuck any modern physics paper written by Indians
Fuck midwits who try to sound so smart and can never admit their mistakes or the limits of their knowledge
Fuck any basement dweller who thinks bismuth is the key to antigravity (it's just diamagnetism)
Fuck people who write a book without understanding the subject 
Fuck anyone who says they have solved the world's energy problems with an antenna, a capacitor and a few diodes.

Practical solutions will not come from these directions.  They suck up money and brainpower and there is a shortage of both.
The problem was solved with 1940s technology.  Multiple lone wolf researchers or small teams may have made progress. 
It's not super complicated.  It's not high energy.  It doesn't involve antimatter or some Theory of Everything super particle.  It involves a spacetime effect, kind of like magnetism as described above, but much more elusive, extremely difficult to derive from first principles, and with a symmetry breaking which means the old rules don't apply.

I suspect that the technology was first discovered in the very distant past, like during the last ice age or even earlier, but a comet sent us back to the stone age and now the knowledge of that time only survives as myth. Some people left, and some returned after many thousands of years of divergent evolution and genetic tinkering.  I think that's why so many "aliens" are humanoids who can interbreed with us.  They are our long-lost relatives.  But all life on Earth is related so their ancestors must have evolved here.  It's the least schizo way to explain the interbreeding. Also Grey technology kinda sucks.  Real aliens should have better stuff.

There is ample evidence of a very ancient civilization that built megalithic structures around the world. They definitely had machine tools, stoneworking ability beyond our own, navigation of the open oceans, the ability to measure longitude (a very difficult problem), and astronomical obsessions. There is some more tenuous evidence that they might have had electricity, flying machines, extreme life extension, nukes, and some technology based on sonic resonances. Some of these technologies might have been developed by off-worlders who returned as the Gods from Space.  There is no evidence of ancient mass production, plastics, electronic computers and chemical engineering.  They were generally less advanced than us, but they had a different tech tree that branched off in some odd directions, so maybe there could have been an ancient Nikola Tesla who might have figured out antigravity if it's sufficiently low tech.  This is why I have a soft spot for low tech experiments. 

>>170
I talked about it a bit here >>38
Still haven't made any more sense of it.  You're the second person who asked about it so I will dump the rest of the pages soon.  I am away from home right now.
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>>171
What do you think causes gravity?
>>171
Lets assume that brown's craft do not work on ions and his gravitator worked. What would be the mechanism?
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I am now reading "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion" by Paul LaViolette.  It's a very interesting book with lots of details about T. T. Brown's experiments and secret government projects.  It turns out Brown did do successful experiments in vacuum and in oil.  Others claim to have replicated his experiments in vacuum. Ion effects were definitely involved in some experiments but they can't explain everything.  Brown's experiments were promising enough that during the 1950s there was increasing scientific and aerospace interest in electrogravitics but then all of a sudden it was like a hidden hand made the entire subject politically incorrect and this bit of history was memory holed, for obvious reasons.  Scientists bent the knee because the #1 thing that scientists in general are good at, is figuring out which side their bread is buttered on.  

>>173
I don't know how it would work but I have a spitballing, handwavey guess (see below).

LaViolette explains it with his own ether-based theory of particle physics he calls called "subquantum kinetics".  TL;DR it's hokum.  His understanding of physics is better than Valone's though, and the book is worth getting for all the experimental and historical details.  Just skip the parts about subquantum kinetics. 
LaViolette also talks about positive and negative charges having opposite but not quite equal gravitational interactions.  For example, if all the electrons in the Earth give you a gravitational repulsion of 1000000000000 g's and everything else gives you an attraction of 1000000000001 g's, then you will feel 1 g, but if you can separate charges you will find a troll physics antigravity effect.
This is not as crazy as it sounds at first.  It's impossible to get enough electrons or protons together by themselves to measure their gravity due to overwhelming electrostatic effects. However, it is possible to measure the inertial mass of these particles, i.e. the mass in F=ma. Provide F, measure a, calculate m.  There are many ways to do this.  Inertial mass and gravitational mass are measured to be the same to at least one part in 10^15.  If they are not the same, it would cause problems for general relativity. 
LaViolette's hypothesis would give very obvious differences in inertial and gravitational mass depending on how neutron-rich a material is.  Neutrons have quarks with charges of -1/3, -1/3 and 2/3, whereas protons have quarks with charges of -1/3, 2/3, and 2/3.  

TL;DR ignore everything LaViolette says about the gravitational potential and subquantum kinetics and probably other physics theories that will come later in the book.  

>>172
The current explanation is found in general relativity, which states that gravity isn't a force at all, it's an effect of curved spacetime.  A thrown ball actually follows a straight path in curved spacetime.  We can't understand it with our 3D-adapted brains so we have to use math instead.  This math leads to multiple strange predictions that have been verified:  Black holes, gravitational waves, frame dragging, time dilation, the expansion of the universe, and the precession of Mercury's orbit.
The theory is well established, but it conflicts with other well established theories, mainly quantum mechanics. Physicists have spent half a century trying to make general relativity fit with quantum field theory and particle physics and all they have to show for it are a bunch of even wilder mathematical theories like string theory, which is so complicated it can be made to fit anything if they try hard enough or bullshit hard enough. String theory has near-infinite possibilities, but no real results.

I think general relativity will turn out to be an approximation of a deeper theory that will emerge from completely different principles, like quantum information theory, the holographic principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle ) or maybe something else. This doesn't mean general relativity is wrong, it just means it's incomplete.  Looking back a level, Newton's theory of gravity isn't wrong, it's  incomplete.  It's the weak field approximation of general relativity.  When NASA sends a probe to Neptune, they don't use general relativity, they use Newton's law of gravity because it's easy to use and still accurate enough for their purposes.

Here's an alternative theory of gravity I keep coming back to: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropic_gravity 
Now it pops up again.  Look what's most problematic about it:   

**For the derivation of Einstein's equations from an entropic gravity perspective, Tower Wang shows that the inclusion of energy-momentum conservation and cosmological homogeneity and isotropy requirements severely restricts a wide class of potential modifications of entropic gravity, some of which have been used to generalize entropic gravity beyond the singular case of an entropic model of Einstein's equations. Wang asserts that:

    As indicated by our results, the modified entropic gravity models of form (2), if not killed, should live in a very narrow room to assure the energy-momentum conservation and to accommodate a homogeneous isotropic universe. **

Maybe that's just what we need LOL.

If I had to make a wild guess at explaining the Biefeld-Brown effect with entropic gravity, I would say that electrons are simple particles that space themselves out, whereas atomic nuclei are complex and compact.  Therefore the virtual photons that emanate from the nucleus have more quantum entanglement, which means more quantum information, and thus entropic gravity gives an attraction towards the positive pole.
One prediction of this hypothesis would be that using lead for the charge carrying plates would give better results than using aluminum.
There might be a problem with inertial mass =/= gravitational mass as described above. Don't ask me to calculate how large the effect would be. Don't ask me why everything cancels out perfectly when there's no voltage.  Don't ask me how many times I flunked quantum mechanics.
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Looks like I got banned by yellow dog janny. Pic related. I wasn't using a VPN.  I live in a tiny town and thus am easy to rangeban.  Trying to post from the public library in a nearby town. If this post goes through, I will post in /meta/ and ask for an unban.  

Not sure of the reason for the ban.
It might be because AI thought I was spamming due to my permanent magnet motor page dump.  This incuded a lightly cropped image of my previous post of the first page of the permanent magnet motor document. I did this to get past hash-based restrictions on posting the same image. Maybe the AI flagged it as "abuse", IDK.  I did it so that those who are interested can have all the information in two sequential posts. The info is on topic for the thread, and as previously stated, I waited to post these pages until there were two anons expressing interest. I did nothing wrong. 

If shit like this keeps happening I won't go out of my way to get it fixed.  I might continue to write up physics theories, experiment ideas and book reviews but I might not post them until I get to my parents' place or a friend's place that's outside the rangeban.  This might take months. Or maybe I'll wait until I understand the physics better and do some experiments and then pop up on some other obscure site that isn't run by HR twats.  "Effort goes into black hole, no recourse LOL."  Just like the best schizo threads on 4chins. Given recent events, I understand that there needs to be some kind of gatekeeping, but it shouldn't be arbitrary and unaccountable.

Maybe I'll just work on expanding the garden this year. At least my efforts will be rewarded.  I dropped out of society because everything is a humiliation ritual, a rigged game or satan's hamster wheel, I will never be rewarded with a family or anything else that matters, and I am sick of our precious essence being consumed by hateful parasites and smug liberal NPCs.  They never had an original thought in their lives, but they demand that we conform our thoughts to their narrative, and our lives to their yoke.  Fuck the managerial class and anyone who resembles them.  That includes jannies.  I can and will drop out if I have to waste time jumping through hoops like in Clown World.

>>172
Leonard Susskind, a real physicist, says "Gravity is the hydrodynamics of entanglement".  I think that's a good way of putting it.  If you have one atom, you can calculate its wavefunction.  If you have more than a few atoms interacting with each other, the wavefunction is an unintelligible mess. If you have a huge number of atoms, they have group behavior which is very predictable, even though the behavior of individual atoms is completely unpredictable. Gravity is the predictable behavior that emerges from a huge ball of quantum entanglement.
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>>176

Where else do you post or do research. What are the most interesting sites you've found?
Are you on any energy forums?

Its difficult to get supplies, do you have any tips for getting magnets and electrical stuff, who are the good suppliers?
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>>176
They larp about being nazis and hating the system then ban freeing information.
>>176
>Looks like I got banned by yellow dog janny.
No, PissYellerDoge isn't a janny, you were just caught up in the mass VPN b&s that his childish sperg-out for almost 2 weeks finally culminated in.
I saw ya in the meta, you'll eventually get it back, but that LOLCow PYD is STILL on a SPAMposting tantrum.
Amazing how 1 faggot can fuck up everybody's good thing by  shitting in the punchbowl at everyone's party, just because he NEEDS constant negative attention like a woman.

Just FYI: You fucked up the link you posted in the meta. It goes to a 404 page.
Post again with:
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Thanks fren, I should have looked into it more before having my own spergout.  Some friendly fire is inevitable during a raid.  I was just pissed off at the thought of Ourchan becoming as faceless as everywhere else.  Good to know there are frens at work. 

>>177
When I buy, it's usually from Amazon. Mouser.com has a lot of stuff too, very specific and with data sheets, but it's much more expensive.  I am open to suggestions for places other than Amazon. 

I don't post anywhere else.  I tried some free energy forums many years ago but everyone there was retarded or a scammer. The most interesting site I found was 4chins.  /pol/'s conspiracies were the best.  Better than /x/.  I would try to go on in the wee hours of the morning when the shills and jannies were asleep, and the moonbats came out to frolic in the night.  It was intoxicating.  I would scuba dive into that ocean of piss in search of fresh batshit-encrusted pearls of wisdom.  Those of you who did the same might remember me as that Atlantean UFO schizo.  Of course, now 4chins is mostly retards, street shitting shills and bots.  And the jannies... if I had a dollar for every time they shoah'd a thread just as it was getting really interesting, I could buy an oscilloscope. Ourchan has been great in providing a stable forum to brain dump to.  I do much more effortposting here than I did there.

If this post goes through I'm going to try the permanent magnet motor pages again.  See you on the other side, I hope.
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>Thanks fren
You're Welcome, Appreciate the Effort posts
~Also~
>>184
Man oh man, that draftsman has some FAST "F"s. I mean, I've never seen Fs so fast.

I hope as the site grows we get some Steampunks here too, I love the aesthetic and have several Steampunk/Cyberpunk fusion ideas/inventions that would make some fun boards.
Have some great inherited books on "Forgotten Tech" as well.
For all our computers and Smart™Thingz¤, we are collectively more brain atrophied than ever before.

Ok...
Back to your topic.
I won't disrupt again.
Good info here.
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>>184
Could convert any alternator to try this out.
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>>188
Video already dead. Back these thing up immediately.
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>>190
Works.
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>>188
I don't know how to get magnets matching to specific criteria.
Trying to get things outside of standard bar magnets is difficult and expensive, unless you know how to get them.
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Where did the posts go?
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>>203
Collateral damage in the janny/tranny war.
I don't even want to effort post about it because this post is probably a waste of time. Maybe if this post stays up for over one day I will post the science things again for the 4th time. If this post gets deleted I will repost while away from home at the end of the month.
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Seems like the VPN bans are temporarily lifted or I got lucky after power cycling my phone.  My phone  hotspot keeps getting flagged as a VPN and whenever that happens, my posts get auto deleted going back a few days. Deleted posts that I know the numbers of were 175, 188, 190, 204, 205, and 206.   

I might not post again until next week.  We'll see if that helps protect this post and the next two.  These three posts will cover the posts that were deleted plus some updates.

If this keeps happening I will save up posts until I can post from a computer connected to fiber.  That won't be until the end of the month.  I will still answer questions. 

Anyone who likes this thread should expand all images and save the whole thread locally. 

>>186
Try it.  For something like this, it's easier to just do it than it is to understand what he's talking about.  If it works, try a bunch of variants, and let the variants guide you as you try to work out the physics.  A well designed experiment can cull 10 physics theories and thereby save a lot of time.

>>174
More ideas about testing this quantum information hypothesis.

First off, how about making some homemade capacitors with modern high K, high density dielectrics such as barium titanate and lead zirconate titanate.  Use Brown's asymmetric configuration (pic related).  Run four experiments with the poles being made of all four combinations of lead and aluminum. 

It might be good for someone to measure the gravitational pull of a dewar of liquid helium as it goes through its superfluid transition. Helium's "superpower" is that near absolute zero, its atoms start sharing the same quantum state, which leads to some very unusual abilities like being able to flow without resistance, and escape from containers by climbing up the sides. If most of its atoms are in the same quantum state, then maybe there's less entanglement, less quantum information, and less gravitational pull.  I can't find anything about anyone trying this.  Maybe the google searches are flooded with stuff about super sensitive torsion balances using liquid helium floatation, and liquid helium acting like it's immune to gravity (it's not, it's a quantum effect).  More likely, this experiment is banished to the loony bin along with cold fusion and LK-99. Nobody wants to fund it or even suggest doing it because it would violate conservation of energy and the equivalence principle as discussed previously. It's a gamble for sure, but it's much cheaper than a few decades of fruitless quantum gravity research.

Sabine Hossenfelder is a theoretical physicist who became disillusioned with all the BS and now she makes educational YouTube videos.  Here she rants about how theoretical physics has become a circus of useless nonsense: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBIvSGLkwJY
It's a poo fight of alpha monkeys and pretenders to the throne who have all been flinging the same talking points back and forth for decades, either because they can't admit their theories are shit, or they KNOW they're shit but they also know that the people who dole out the grant money can't tell the difference. What we really need is a bunch of cheap screwball experiments but it's not happening.

Here's Sabine's blog where she talks about possible quantum gravity experiments:
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2020/01/how-to-test-quantum-gravity.html
The helium idea isn't on the list. Unfortunately, this experiment is not within the reach of anons. 

>>172
Here's another way to think about emergent or entropic gravity.
Consider the YouTube algorithm.  You start out by watching some informative, high quality videos that you are interested in. This is the low entropy state. Every time you watch a video, the algorithm suggests 20 somewhat randomized videos on similar topics plus crossovers between different things you have watched. This is analagous to quantum jitters and quantum entanglement.  However, there are far more clickbait garbage videos than good videos.  Therefore each suggested video is likely to be of lower quality than the videos you just watched. On long enough timescales, the quality of recommended videos goes to zero.  Stupid cat videos and AI generated swill. This is the high entropy state. The high entropy state cannot be fixed.  And, because of the crossover effect, once you watch anything depraved, it will forever dominate your destiny. You will be gravitationally accreted into that much larger pool of bad videos. If you want good videos again, you will have to wipe your preferences, or get a new account.  

>>185
That's OK, it's not really disruption.  /sci/ is anemic and needs some variety.  I like sci-fi settings with a fusion of advanced and retro elements, i.e. Stargate, Dune, Tatooine etc.  I'll post in a thread about this if you make it.  My stuff has its own unique style which I call Junkpunk because a lot of it is scavenged and repurposed.  I'm interested in your forgotten tech books because there's a high risk of a slow but total collpse followed by a dark age in which most people are 70 IQ illiterates and science is indistinguishable from magic. This would be due to a perfect storm of dysgenic social engineering and toxic environment.  Welfare, mass immigration, feminism, goyslop, tablet kids, No Child Left Behind (i.e. all children dumbed down), and a plastic spoon's worth of microplastics in every brain.  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-human-brain-may-contain-as-much-as-a-spoons-worth-of-microplastics-new-research-suggests-180985995/
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Exodus Propulsion is a small company that has been working on Biefeld-Brown devices.  They have an instructional video on how to make a basic one from thin copper sheets, Kapton tape, styrofoam and aquarium sealant.  It's a crafting project.  For antigravity. It's strong enough to be tested on a precision scale.  They claim to have a better version which can generate 1g.  Based on readings, most of the improvement should come from using a good dielectric.  A dielectric does for capacitors what iron does for electromagnets.    

I think this experiment has the best odds/effort ratio of any experiment posted thus far. 
https://exoduspropulsion.space/#0
I want to slurp this video.  What is the best way?

Some more videos on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgTp3f-QopE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37R_rgh-UNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5PMm84kmU

>>192
I don't know of any place where you can buy custom shaped magnets.  The best way to do it is to find a way to build your magnets from smaller neodymium magnets with standard shapes.  Standard shapes are cubes, bricks, spheres, squat cylinders, and slabs.  For example, in the permanent magnet motor, the stator magnets are close enough to flat that you could make them from stacked slab magnets, and the outer stator assembly could be held together with epoxy and wooden shims.  Use a bench grinder to grind the edges of the stator magnets to make it easier to fit the shims.  Use vise grips to keep stator magnets in place while the epoxy hardens.  I don't think it's important for the inner and outer surfaces to be slightly rounded. 

For the horseshoe shaped magnet in his Fig. 3 (I don't see where this goes- maybe it's just an example?) you could stick cylindrical neodymium magnets on the end of a bolt, feed them to a bench grinder at a specific angle, and superglue them together face to face.  Get rid of the magnet dust as well as you can.  Try some Elmer's glue that you can peel off.  For extra strength, wrap the whole assembly with fiberglass and epoxy.  You could make his banana magnets the same way.  Make the tapered ends from shaved cylindrical magnets.  

Spherical magnets can be stuffed into bent pieces of PVC pipe or tubing.  You will get some field leakage from this.

PCBway.com will sell you custom circuit boards, machined parts, and 3D printed parts.  I don't know if they will machine a brick magnet for you.

Amazon has some some stator  magnets but you will have to design your device around them, because you will never be able to find ones with the exact shape that you want.
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Found a video you might like:
https://youtu.be/PYR9worLEGo

It's about the Hopf fibration.  Your first pic is part of it.  Physicist Eric Weinstein called it "the most important object in the Universe".  It's a map of a 4D sphere projected onto a 3D sphere.  This mathematical structure pops up in 8 different places in physics, so it's kind of like the Fibonacci spiral in that regard.  

Pic related is what the field of the vortex drive should look like if it works.  
Don't take this as proof of anything.
Just an interesting pattern that keeps popping up.
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Actually, the resemblance is superficial, so really, really don't take it as proof of anything.
>>269
Fingers crossed Anon
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>>273
Thanks Ourchad, if that's who you are
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Here is the patent for the Exodus Propulsion device.  Advise downloading locally.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020159603A2/en

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If you liked that video, here is another one where she talks about the financial and social reasons why academia is bullshit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiBlGDfRU8

-Conformity, money grubbing, herd mentality, death by committee
-Established scientists don't do much science anymore. They are professional administrators/beggars/grifters.  Grad students and postdocs do most of the actual science.  They are not well paid.
-Bloated university administrations skim large overheads from all the grant money (plus huge student loans of course). This gives them the high salaries and job security that the people who do the actual work don't have. The Assistant Vice Provost to the Adjunct Dean of Tranny Bathrooms is de facto considered to be more useful than an actual scientist.
-Academia is fundamentally hostile to family formation, especially by women, which contributes to Idiocracy.  This is very important and rarely mentioned.
-It's better to churn out a lot of BS papers than a few good ones.

I can personally confirm all of these.
Pic related describes academia and Western institutions in general.

>>172
Here's a lecture in which Leonard Susskind discusses deep connections between gravity, quantum information, the holographic principle, wormholes, entanglement etc.  TL;DR the old approaches to quantum gravity (i.e. gravitons, integrating Feynman diagrams) have failed, perhaps because gravity IS quantum mechanics.  My only complaint is that he's a bit too enamored with string theory and its mathematical constructs. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNHCQA2Lwzc
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Here's an interesting lecture by Eric Weinstein in which he talks about 5th generation warfare and a DELIBERATE conspiracy to stagnate physics.  The last major, confirmed advance was the Standard Model of particle physics, which came together in the 1970s. Some puppetmasters KNEW that string theory and standard quantum gravity were mazes to nowhere and that's why they were funded to the exclusion of everything else.  They 3-body problem'd us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbdJtrXYBZs

Weinstein is based for an atheist Jew.  He starts out by tearing the tranny cult a new neovagina, embraces masculinity, says violence is coming everywhere and it is necessary to break the stagnation.

>Inb4 Sign tapping is mandatory here
>Inb4 It's just Jewish mitosis.  Why weren't any Jews talking like this 60 years ago, when Western civilization was still salvageable without massive bloodshed?
>Inb4 He's just smart enough that his finely evolved pogrom dodging Spidey sense is now telling him to leave Earth
>Inb4 That's not going to happen, because most Jews would rather rule a giant favela than share the Universe.  This is the entire point of the Kalergi Plan.  This is the Great Filter. 
>Inb4 Weinstein's Geometric Unity is ill-conceived untestable gibberish, even worse than most other so-called Theories of Everything
>Inb4 The Alliance for Responsible Citizenship was founded by Jordan Peterson because he fears the backlash against the PC Left (not because he sees them as an ontologically evil, existential threat to humanity)
>Inb4 ARC is a clapping gallery for Israel
>Inb4 It's a bunch of eggheads and money conservatives who have belatedly realized that all their platitudes and lines going up will be worthless without civilization
All valid points.  But I think Weinstein's speech is worth watching through /pol/'s They Live glasses, and ARC is saying (some) things that need to be said.

Here's another interview where Weinstein says string theorists are ruining physics and it all started with gravity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pouL4r62R88
Sabine on string theory being a bad case of contagious mathematical autism which led nowhere:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRzQDyw5C3M
Sabine on how particle physics has stagnated since the 1970s and particle physicists are always moving the goalposts to grift money for their next giant particle accelerator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu4mH3Hmw2o

NASA has been covering up UFOs and structures on the Moon, Martian microbes are growing to the size of elephants in the room, and NASA is always rugpulling human space flight except for the ISS, which has a very low return on investment as far as science projects go.  Looks like NASA been 3-bodied too. Here's Angry Astronaut on the Mars situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwKdFxYkmc

>>185
Speaking of gibberish, there's something about the permanent magnet motor that I should have said at the beginning, but I was baffled by bullshit buzzword bait.
It's a rotating device with magnets. That's it.
The easier it is to make a device, the harder it is to keep a lid on it if it works.
I've seen other rotating devices with magnets proposed on free energy forums.  They never seem to work out.  This is probably because any device that relies purely on standard electromagnetism and Newtonian mechanics cannot be a free energy device due to Noether's Theorem.
>Inb4 you could say the same thing about high voltage asymmetrical capacitors
Yes, but there's a lot more experimental "smoke" in that direction.  Maybe where there's smoke there's fire.
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>>278
E.Winesein is an mussod dog handler who was buttering up rubin. It's all on tape if you watch how they act in those early interviews.

(So I really don't care what he "thinks" knowing what he is)
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Right now I only have two sources on the physics stagnation conspiracy, Weinstein and LaViolette, and Weinstein is the better source IMHO.  I spent 4 hours yesterday listening to a Joe Rogan interview with him, almost posted about it last night, and I'm not going to let an effort post go to waste because of his demeanor in some other interview.  Just use the glasses. Or don't watch.  Posting as written.

Here Weinstein talks about how the stagnation conspiracy goes back to the 1950s.  They harvested the best ideas, classified them and compartmentalized the people, then pulled up the ladder by misallocating funds, and by controlling the zeitgeist of what is prestigious and what is pseudoscience.  Weinstein gives names and places.  The other guy in the interview is his friend Avi Loeb, an astrophysicist who is currently the main "Aliens Guy" within academia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvmWk9qil9s

Here's the Joe Rogan interview in which he upacks the conspiracy further with more names and memory holed history.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7CJoGKvx3U
Parts of general interest:
0-20, 1:00-1:34, 2:53-3:08, 3:32+ Meeting with Kanye followed by Jewish fears and Globohomo Lite utopianism
Parts of specific interest:  
1:09.  Turns out Robert Maxwell was responsible for using peer review to turn physics into Reddit.  He was a publishing mogul / Mossad super spy and father of Jeffey Epstein's Mossad handler, Ghislaine Maxwell.  
1:18, 2:12 There's a Qanon-tier government conspiracy to string certain physicists along with talk of disclosure.
1:27 Suspicions of physicists disappearing into antigravity projects run out of SUNY-Stony Brook and possibly UT-Austin, financed by a suspicious hedge fund (Renaissance Technologies)

TL;DR He has an admirable dedication to rattling cages, both physical and academic. I don't think his 14 dimensions are a better way out of Einstein's cage than string theory's 11 dimensions but I'm not in a position to argue this point. I'm just glad someone is telling millions of people about the stagnation conspiracy and the need to use physics to leave Clown World before the clowns blow it up or worse.

Angry Astronaut put the pieces together about how one of the DC Wave UFOs may have been photographed in space by Palomar Observatory the day before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYjyh9zwtGg

Pic is a sad tombstone for the lost age of cowboy physics.
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>>280
Well. I just know enough about that guy to know he's looking for opportunities to penetrate conservative circles and start buying them. What's his backstory? Oh, a money manager for Pete T. Okay, how did he get on the rubicon report? Oh, he made special friends with them. What was he doing? Talking about nothing? Trying to organize a media group? on  and on it goes. What these guys will do is take chatter from smart digital spaces which is underappreciated or undervalued (4chan) and then signal boost it in public  so we feel compelled to retweet their penetration efforts to get our message across. It's a Trojan horse and I would guess he is stealing from /sci/'s mommy in this case, Sabin Hossenfelder.

https://www.youtube.com/@SabineHossenfelder
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>>281
OK, the Peter Thiel thing is worrying.
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>>282
I can't speak to the science of his Weinsten. But when I followed his pre 2020 appearances I realized he talked a lot but didn't say anything specifically novel. There used to be cynical chatter you could find about those two. 

Sabine's entire theory is that physics is a ever more complex scam which stopped trying to innovate decades ago, instead preferring to invent ever more ridiculous theories to justify the continued spending. Maybe I'm getting off topic.
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>>283
Not off topic.  I've been crapping on modern physics and linking Sabine's videos.

I think she's right, especially about particle physics which is obviously more money driven.  String theory has a fair amount of people who are more mathematicians than physicists and they do it for the autism.  The autists have done some important things like put quantum field theory on firmer mathematical foundations.  The problem is that whenever string theorists write a paper about physics beyond the standard model you can be 99% sure it has nothing to do with reality and they probably don't care. Sabine is right about them too.  Quantum gravity was pinning all hopes on distant gamma ray bursts revealing the pixellation of space but that didn't happen, so what did they do? Add more complexity and move the goalposts, of course! And all these people have sucked all the oxygen out of the room, thus leading to stagnation.

As for Weinstein, she would say that his 14 dimensional horseshit might look different from 11 dimensional bullshit but it's still shit.
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>>284
the most eye opening bit was one of her recent videos. She talks about a respected college (a founder of string theory or comparable) talking about how he admits to making up a story to keep the research coming. And of course, since this is keeping them employed, you can't possibly let the truth come out about this field right? How the top experts actually feel about their discipline, nothing more than intentional corruption and collusion.
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>>285
Yeah, I saw that video, pissed me off. Found it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shFUDPqVmTg

Termites like this remind me of the whiners who Elon is rightfully purging. They are ruining physics. Here are five  questions I would like to see Elon ask every string theorist. These would trigger some autistic screeching:

1. If you had the world's best supercomputer, how long would it take to calculate which of the 10^500 Calabi-Yau manifolds corresponds to our physics?
2. Suppose you could eliminate most of them a priori and get that number down by a factor of 10^80, which would be like selecting one atom from the entire observable universe.  How long would it take to find the right manifold from 10^420 of them?  How could we be sure it's the right one? Would it matter?
3. Is there a way to test your pet theory without using a particle accelerator the size of the galaxy?
4. If your pet theory is right, will people still use the standard model anyways, for the same reasons we still use Newton's law of gravity?
5. Does your pet theory have a practical application that doesn't involve a particle accelerator or a black hole?

There is a deeper problem with physics no longer being a balanced ecosystem.  Physics works best when experiments cull theories, and theories guide experiments.  If either one becomes too dominant, it will wander off into the weeds, and physics as a whole will stagnate.  Experiments have gotten so expensive that lone wolves can't do them, which has led to theory getting so far ahead of experiment that there is no longer a healthy natural selection of theories.  It's mostly useless eaters now. CERN was sold as a T-Rex that would rampage through the tangled jungle of theoretical physics so that the strongest theories could repopulate the field.  All it did was eat the paypigs that the good physicists needed to survive, then it ate a few homeless Higgs deniers who nobody listened to anyways. The superstrings crowd and dark matter theorists hid by the usual tricks- increasing complexity and then moving the goalposts.  The large extra dimensions people were just particle accelerator salesmen all along so they were rewarded by being allowed to move on to some other grift.  

A lack of low hanging fruit also means there is a lot of waste because people need to grovel if they want the toys, computers and minions they will need to get something done.  But these decisions are made by people who are bean counters first, herd animals second and scientists third.  They don't like it if you tell them science doesn't work like construction contracting, and they are easily bamboozled, thus the incentives are off.  Accountants and bureaucrats are most likely to reward buzzword slingers and plodding NPCs while squeezing mavericks out of academia. 

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These are no easy fixes here.  Maybe strengthen the tenure system, and I definitely think that hundreds of relatively cheap crapshoot experiments would be better than a single giant particle accelerator or a space station.  Include stuff that's considered fringe but is still science, like electrogravitics, cold fusion, SETI etc. Big Science should favor observatories that watch the Universe do the hard experiments.  This should kill as many useless theories as possible while also opening up serendipitous leads in new directions.  JWST has been full of surprises.  One of the strangest is that the whole universe might have angular momentum, which AFAIK can only be explained by the trippy theory of black hole cosmology, i.e. we're living in someone else's black hole, and it's black holes all the way down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIGTPBra7JU

To continue T-rex analogy, it's much cheaper and more effective to release a few hundred cobras like Thomas Brown into the physics department and then have a pack of velociraptors like JWST waiting outside. 

University courses should focus more on experimental techniques, sensing, computer interfacing, data analysis, etc. These skills are also useful outside of physics.  Physics research should be steered more towards fields where practical advances are still being made, like condensed matter physics, materials science and MEMS.  Part of the problem is that all this stuff isn't sexy. The best students will always be drawn towards theory.

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Here's another video about other fraud in science.  Kinda funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQobaBCSYk
65 papers on curry fudged by an Indian. The government spent 150 million dollars on this grifter.  Another Indian fudged 132 papers about dementia, setting research back years.  

Sabine complains about people who died of horse paste LOL.  Mommy is wrong about this.  Horse paste is delicious and nutritious and all the overdosers are idiots who took horse sized doses. I take medical advice from basement dwelling trolls. Dr. CHUD is the best.  I trust his science more than anyone else's.
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Minor update because kinda busy IRL and kinda busy avenging the deaths of my schizo threads on 4chins.

Here Michio Kaku shows us one more reason why string theorists are full of shit.

Here's a video about emergent gravity by /sci/'s daddy, Anton Petrov. His explanation is different from Susskind's but the TL;DR is the same: Gravity IS quantum mechanics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YuzRpE6erY
I'm not quite dead yet. Been out raiding.
Gotta keep this thread alive with a bit of news.

CERN now wants an even BIGGER particle accelerator that they say will cost $40 billion (those are rookie numbers) and will be used to make some more accurate measurements of particles we already know about. This would be a great way to stagnate physics for another 50 years. Mommy agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvEcWc7U7c
The good news is that there is serious pushback on this from within the physics community. 

Here's Prof. Susskind on how the problems with string theory are so bad we have to go back to the drawing board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p_Hlm6aCok
He gets right into it at the beginning with supersymmetry and anti-deSitter space. String theory requires both, but they are not observed. Worse, there is no push to reconcile this, because all the students are afraid of being accused of heresy and thereby ruining their careers if they talk about physical reality not conforming to nice mathematical models. 
There's a little bit about particle accelerator grifters. After that, he spends most of the lecture talking about existential problems and possible alternative theories, while admitting that he doesn't have THE solution.
Large swaths of academia are about getting paid to find ever more creative ways to studiously ignore elephants in the room, to the extent that entire fields are pretty much bullshit.
Economics
History
Gender studies
PC Victimologies 
Sociology 
Political Science
Public health 
Theoretical physics
Honorary mention: Computer science (the Big Lie is that you will get a job)
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>>296
The good news is, the USAID magical infinite money faucet has been turned off, and we have already seen a great deal of brazen bullshit dry up and blow away.
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>his gravitator worked. What would be the mechanism?
https://scalarphysics.com
https://montalk.net/notes/334/the-etheric-origins-of-gravity-electricity-and-magnetism
https://montalk.net/science/109/scalar-superpotential-theory
http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm
Maybe.

tl;dr charge POTENTIAL itself creates gradients on the aether density/flow rate which matter being 'submersed' in is subsequently affected.
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>>299
You might be right about the potential.  Nuclei have much stronger electric potentials and potential gradients than electrons do, so quantum fields behave a bit differently near nuclei, so maybe there's a tiny uncancelled effect which becomes gravity.  Magnetism comes from an uncancelled relativistic effect at the ~10^-23 level.  >>167

I am not a fan of ether based theories due to the Michelson-Morely experiment and the hokey theories of some of the free energy crowd but I will look into these... Later.  Busy IRL for the next few weeks, and this also comes right after the 4chins hack and mass doxxing of jannies.  Great time for raiding. I probably won't be doing much thinking about physics besides watching YouTube videos.  

>>297
Yeah, that will probably help some, but the rot goes deeper than USAIDS.

Academia is our priest caste.
They have high priests, acolytes, initiation rituals, divination rituals,  ritual dress, sacraments (the vaccine), expensive temples, heresies, inquisitors, reams of arcane writings, inner language, a creation story, an end of the world story (climate change), an afterlife story (upload yourself or nothing;  either way you might as well be a total hedonist, because you won't be punished for it), and they prop up the ruling class.
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>>296
Biology needs to be on that list too.
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>>296
What's the elephants in the room with biology, other than obvious things like racial biomarkers and firmer hard evidence for abiogenesis?
>inb4 germ theory and viruses
I don't think biologists (or related scientists such as biophysicists) dispute that these are not the end-all, be-all theories in the field. My sense is that they are fully aware that explanations will be found on the nano-level or below that go into more detail in the future when the means are available to discover them, much as miasma theory was more approximate to the truth than alternatives or no theory at all until germ theory came along.
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Here's some links to chew on for a while.

http://www.centauri-dreams.org is a great site for anyone interested in all things related to space exploration.

Angry Astronaut has some interesting videos about cutting edge spaceflight technologies based on conventional physics. 

Nuclear Stirling engines for reliable deep space electricity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chv6_seOaWw
Von Braun's nuclear powered Mars proposal and the surprising progress that was made during the lost age of cowboy physics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgvrljSlGKc
Here's a privately developed fusion engine which seems very good.  The technology is easier than building a fusion power plant, except for needing to mine the Moon for helium-3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVYrVghBwc

It would be great if academia would guide young physicists towards developing these kinds of useful technologies.  

Mommy made a lot of enemies with her previous video about the particle accelerator grifters.  Here's a new particle physics rant worth listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqoyTSAF5g0
I didn't know there's a particle accelerator lobby in Europe, LOL.
I suppose it's better than spending it on welfare for rapefugees but come on, this is going lead to "physicists get the rope too".
She recently took on the climate change mafia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDsjeKo3u3o
The response of both communities has been  predictable: "She's a witch! Burn her!"  Sabine DGAF because she probably makes more from YouTube than any of her detractors make in salary.

We may soon be flooded with refugees so I will spin off all stuff like this into another thread about stagnation, fraud, lies, and abuse in science. Big Science Hate Thread!
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>>300
Actually I take that back about the potential because of the equivalence principle and the masses of different isotopes.  It sounds like LaViolette's basic idea, which isn't a crazy idea, it just conflicts with observations. See >>174
I haven't checked any of the links.  Don't know if they are based on LaViolette's ideas or not.
>>302
>What's the elephants in the room with biology
Aside from the fact that the entire field has been taken over by the pharmaceutical industry?
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Bump
There is a useful thread on patents in /diy/. Is it a bad idea for these inventors to patent their ideas. How often do free energy / anti-gravity researchers and the like get murdered or threatened? Is it really all of them, or just many?
I have never patented anything so I don't know how it works.  I have heard that the people at the patent office have been told to categorically reject anything related to free energy or antigravity because "it won't work", while at the same time, they are told to report all such inventions to the government! Why would that be necessary, if they are so sure it won't work?

I would assume that the major physics journals have similar policies in place.  I have heard scuttlebutt about postdocs thinking they found something interesting enough to publish and then they just disappear.  No names, no universities, just rumors. 

Someone microwaved Amy Eskridge's brain and she (supposedly) killed herself because she couldn't deal with having a fried brain.

The British government raided John Searl's house, stole his electrical devices and even the wiring in his house, jailed him for a year on trumped up charges of "stealing electricity", burned his house down while he was in jail, and sued him for a large amount of money. British cops and bureaucrats work tirelessly to drag humanity back into the mud. 

Tesla had to endure financial and professional fuckery.  

Something may or may not have happened to Ning Li. It's unclear.

I have heard internet stories of people who had their devices and papers confiscated. There are other researchers who have not been messed with. Maybe they're the ones who are wrong!

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My general impression of patents is that if you are a little guy you will never benefit from a patent.  Some corporation will steal it from you, make a minor variation, and you won't be able to out-lawyer them.  Or you will find a Made in China version at half the price. Many such cases. 

Sit on your inventions.  Don't feed parasites, it just encourages them, and this dogshit society doesn't deserve the fruits of our minds.  If it's something that could flip the tables like free energy, then post it on the internet so that nobody can get the patent! 

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Biology gets a dishonorable mention.  The foundations are good but the driving forces are not.
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How to make brain protections saar?
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Tinfoil hat. The schizos are right about this.  You want tinfoil to cover all sides of your head, including your forehead.

For better protection, and to not look like an obvious schizo, make a wide brimmed sun hat with tinfoil inside and some metal window screening coming down around the entire head, like mosquito netting.  Have a strip going down your back to cover your spine.

Or don't be high profile enough to be worth such an attack.  Amy co-founded the Institute for Advanced Science, which is a privately funded maker space for antigravity projects. I went down her rabbit hole again, and found this really great info dump thread on old /x/:  https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/35487394

There are 10 more text file screenshots in the thread.  Two people interested gets them dumped here.  Fake suicide confirmed.

The was talk about her being involved in developing gravitational wave communications for submarines via the Gertsenshtein effect, gravitational lasers and phased arrays of microscopic vibrating masses.  I hadn't heard of any of this stuff before /x/ so kudos to them.  I did some back of the envelope calculations to try to get some idea of how many intelligence agencies might have wanted her dead, and found that these effects could be viable at the laboratory curiosity level, but not at the sub communication level for the foreseeable future, assuming known physics and technology. Two requests gets the math.

The UFOs Reddit group has had some good link dumps and Amy Eskridge talks.  She talked a lot  about the stagnation conspiracy.  She said it's enforced by assassinations, academic NPCs, NASA and targeted recruiting into black programs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/xz8hfx/fascinating_antigravity_talk_but_the_most/?rdt=56527
This is about the Searl effect with ferromagnetic fluid, TR-3B's, and more.  She explains how her institute would work via private funding plus royalties for results.   The Reddit thread has a lot of links.

Another thread with lots of links on disappearances and the stagnation conspiracy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15gmn13/what_happened_to_the_antigravity_scientists/

Ning Li and other antigravity digs in the Huntsville area:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16ni3zj/unraveling_the_bizarre_trail_of_antigravity/

Here Amy talks about NASA's role in the stagnation conspiracy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1aboz4e/amy_eskridge_nasa_antigravity_propulsion_research/?rdt=33561
Anyone who makes a working prototype will have their funding cancelled, and their equipment sold for scrap!

Similar things happen with fusion research.  Princeton had a really good result back in the 90s, not break even but a good result, and their funding was cancelled.  It happened again somewhere else a few years later.  "Two more decades" has become a meme with fusion reactors.   The real purpose of fusion reactors is to suck physics research money into a black hole.  At first I blamed Big Oil, but now I realize it is part of a much bigger and more sinister conspiracy.
What the fuck is a gravitational wave? 
What is the evidence of this? 
What is even waving?
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The textbook answer is that it's a propagating distortion of spacetime itself.  Its passage can be detected by using interfering lasers to detect subatomic size changes in the distances between mirrors.  Multiple interferometers are set up around the world to rule out triggerings from distant traffic, bugs landing on them, etc. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_observation_of_gravitational_waves

From Wikipedia:

This first direct observation was reported around the world as a remarkable accomplishment for many reasons. Efforts to directly prove the existence of such waves had been ongoing for over fifty years, and the waves are so minuscule that Albert Einstein himself doubted that they could ever be detected. The waves given off by the cataclysmic merger of GW150914 reached Earth as a ripple in spacetime that changed the length of a 1,120 km LIGO effective span by a thousandth of the width of a proton, proportionally equivalent to changing the distance to the nearest star outside the Solar System by one hair's width. The energy released by the binary as it spiralled together and merged was immense, with the energy of 3.0+0.5
−0.5 c^2 solar masses (5.3+0.9
−0.8×10^47 joules or 5300+900
−800 foes) in total radiated as gravitational waves, reaching a peak emission rate in its final few milliseconds of about 3.6+0.5
−0.4×10^49 watts – a level greater than the combined power of all light radiated by all the stars in the observable universe.

Another interesting detection was two merging neutron stars.  The gravitational waves corresponded to a flash of gamma rays and visible light from a galaxy in the same part of the sky. 
https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/page/press-release-gw170817
how about giant magnets making turbines spin?
>>341
a wave implies motion- light is somehow both a particle and a wave (which means, it's probably neither)- but gravity doesn't... move... does it?
when you have more mass, is it the atomic bonds of the atoms that are attracting each other that could be a field of gravitational attraction?
A friend sent me this interview that Harald Malmgren gave right before he died.  I had never heard of him before, but apparently he was an advisor to multiple presidents, knew everyone, and helped to defuse the Cuban Missile Crisis by shutting down General Curtis LeMay.  In this interview he said a lot of interesting things about UFOs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09KP8XVf5nY

0:58-1:20   The Bluegill nuclear tests were officially about creating x-ray beams to shoot down incoming missiles, but in one of these nuclear tests they deliberately shot down a UFO. Some wreckage was studied at Los Alamos. UFOs had been sniffing around our missiles and nuclear facilities for years.  

1:27-1:32  Richard Bissell, the "Mayor of Area 51" and the CIA's deputy director of the CIA, said that UFOs are interested in all kinds of military technologies, not just nukes, and they may be involved in the stagnation conspiracy. Bissell took Malmgren under his wing and groomed him as the heir to his knowledge.

1:33-1:47  A UFO crashed in Magenta, Italy, in 1933.  Mussolini had it for a while. Nazis probably worked on it.  Americans took it to Wright-Patterson AFB after the war, with help from the Vatican, the Knights of Malta, and Allan Dulles.  Wright-Patterson AFB and Huntsville, AL were common destinations for paperclip Nazis. 

2:17-2:22 There was controversy over JFK wanting to cooperate with the Russians over UFOs, at least so as not to start a nuclear war.  The CIA and General LeMay were not amused.  This may have been one of many reasons for the JFK assassination.

2:35-2:38 LeMay had access to UFOs at Wright-Patterson AFB.  He was interested in T. T. Brown's work, and helped start the Rand Corporation, which was later run by Ben Rich, who was the son of the founder of Skunk Works. Foreign intelligence says Tesla and T. T. Brown collaborated. 

2:41-2:44 More Tesla - T. T. Brown stuff, including the John Trump getting Tesla's files.  

2:49 Talk about the experiment vs. theory struggles in physics.  It goes back to Tesla vs. Einstein. 

3:43+ CIA and MJ-12 keeping secret talents lists (GATE)? T. T. Brown was obsessed with using gravity for time travel.  The normally talkative Malmgren went silent when asked about secret groups trying to control timelines.

More:
https://x.com/halsrethink?lang=en   (Malmgren's Twitter)
https://archive.org/details/townsend-brown-electrogravitics-notebooks  (T.T. Brown's lab notes, but where are the extra 200 pages that Malmgren talked about at 2:59?)
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Whats the qrd on rand corp?
Do you think they can really do all that timeline stuff? How would levitation allow for time travel?
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Astrophysicist at Göttingen University discovers new theoretical hyper-fast soliton solutions
Press release: Breaking the warp barrier for faster-than-light travel
<No.; 32 - 09.03.2021
https://www.uni-goettingen.de/en/3240.html?id=6192

>If travel to distant stars within an individual’s lifetime is going to be possible, a means of faster-than-light propulsion will have to be found. To date, even recent research about superluminal (faster-than-light) transport based on Einstein’s theory of general relativity would require vast amounts of hypothetical particles and states of matter that have “exotic” physical properties such as negative energy density. This type of matter either cannot currently be found or cannot be manufactured in viable quantities. In contrast, new research carried out at the University of Göttingen gets around this problem by constructing a new class of hyper-fast ‘solitons’ using sources with only positive energies that can enable travel at any speed. This reignites debate about the possibility of faster-than-light travel based on conventional physics. The research is published in the journal Classical and Quantum Gravity.

>The author of the paper, Dr Erik Lentz, analysed existing research and discovered gaps in previous ‘warp drive’ studies. Lentz noticed that there existed yet-to-be explored configurations of space-time curvature organized into ‘solitons’ that have the potential to solve the puzzle while being physically viable. A soliton – in this context also informally referred to as a 'warp bubble’ – is a compact wave that maintains its shape and moves at constant velocity. Lentz derived the Einstein equations for unexplored soliton configurations (where the space-time metric’s shift vector components obey a hyperbolic relation), finding that the altered space-time geometries could be formed in a way that worked even with conventional energy sources. In essence, the new method uses the very structure of space and time arranged in a soliton to provide a solution to faster-than-light travel, which – unlike other research – would only need sources with positive energy densities. No “exotic” negative energy densities needed.

>If sufficient energy could be generated, the equations used in this research would allow space travel to Proxima Centauri, our nearest star, and back to Earth in years instead of decades or millennia. That means an individual could travel there and back within their lifetime. In comparison, the current rocket technology would take more than 50,000 years for a one-way journey. In addition, the solitons (warp bubbles) were configured to contain a region with minimal tidal forces such that the passing of time inside the soliton matches the time outside: an ideal environment for a spacecraft. This means there would not be the complications of the so-called “twin paradox” whereby one twin travelling near the speed of light would age much more slowly than the other twin who stayed on Earth: in fact, according to the recent equations both twins would be the same age when reunited.

>“This work has moved the problem of faster-than-light travel one step away from theoretical research in fundamental physics and closer to engineering. The next step is to figure out how to bring down the astronomical amount of energy needed to within the range of today's technologies, such as a large modern nuclear fission power plant. Then we can talk about building the first prototypes," says Lentz.

>Currently, the amount of energy required for this new type of space propulsion drive is still immense. Lentz explains, “The energy required for this drive travelling at light speed encompassing a spacecraft of 100 meters in radius is on the order of hundreds of times of the mass of the planet Jupiter. The energy savings would need to be drastic, of approximately 30 orders of magnitude to be in range of modern nuclear fission reactors.” He goes on to say: “Fortunately, several energy-saving mechanisms have been proposed in earlier research that can potentially lower the energy required by nearly 60 orders of magnitude.” Lentz is currently in the early-stages of determining if these methods can be modified, or if new mechanisms are needed to bring the energy required down to what is currently possible.

>Original publication: Erik W Lentz, Breaking the Warp Barrier: Hyper-Fast Solitons in Einstein-Maxwell-Plasma Theory, Classical and Quantum Gravity
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Mr American Antigravity has rebranded over the years to to Alt Propulsion / Alt Propulsion Energy Conference. One of the more recent (this year) and well documented presentations:

Dielectrophoresis as a Means for Artificial Gravity | Jason Cassibry
https://youtu.be/CDu1URwLxD8?t=1186
While it does kind of start getting serious at 19:46
>Can also create attractive forces effecting wood, foodstuffs, metal, marble, and glass.

https://www.altpropulsion.com/
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Going through some more of those videos on APEC I found this one

APEC 5/10: UAPs, Gravitational Propulsion & Heim Theory and specifically the one presentation starting at 1:01:40 - Joel Michalowitz - Heim Theory
>Joel will be presenting the first in a series of discussions on Heim Theory, beginning with an overview of the life of Burkhard Heim and an introduction to propulsion-related aspects of Heim Theory. Heim was a reputable German physicist noted for his work in emerging propulsion physics research.
https://youtu.be/YNX2wZEmDw8?list=PLoUT4a5Zlf7GkT4lIufe72kIl-J1pFI1t&t=3700
And there is this off site link to some material
https://heim-theory.com/?page_id=173 (in English -- a lot of the site is untranslated German)

I swear listening to that I could feel my IQ increasing good old Germans and it also did have a lot of pieces that are helping knit so much of the 'anomalous' gravity sciences together coherently in my mind. It seems to be the real spiritual successor to N. Tesla's theory of dynamic gravity.
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That's actually very interesting. Thanks for sharing, friend.
Hello to anyone who is still left! Low Budget Physics Anon here.  Sorry to be away for so long.  Things got so busy IRL that I lost focus, and then the tides of happenings swept me back into the ocean of piss along with the hack refugees and almost everyone else, by the looks of things.  Thank you to those who carried the flame.

I'm on holiday for a few weeks,
and the friends I have been staying with are curious about UFOs and the physics stagnation conspiracy, so it's a good time to add to this thread by commenting on the backlog of posts.

>439
Here is a non-paywalled version of Lentz's paper and another paper of his from later that year:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2006.07125
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2201.00652

A couple of red flags are that he's a single author publishing in 
a journal I haven't heard of.  Supposedly it's peer reviewed- not a vanity press.

It does look like a real physics paper.  I'm nowhere near smart enough to check his math.  
Let's assume that it's correct. Let's assume that his equations describe a soliton-based
warp drive that does not require negative energy anywhere. That would remove one of the major
problems with the original warp drive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

The next major problem is the enormous energy it would require- think E=mc^2 where
m is the entire mass of a small star. Lentz does not claim to have solved this problem for his solitons.
He says reducing the energy *might* be possible
because people have done similar things with Alcubierre's warp drive, but these extreme energy reductions required extreme spacetime engineering like nearly Planck-scale warp bubble thickness and nearly pinched off bubble universes.
Even if stuff like this can be applied to Lentz's solitons, there is no reason to expect that it would ever be possible to make such spacetimes in reality. 
Furthermore, the plasma-based energy systems Lentz proposes would require magnets and computer simulations that would make a fusion reactor look like child's play.  Lentz admits this.

Physicists who are smarter than me complain that Lentz has not addressed certain caveats.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/632346/erik-lentzs-faster-than-light-soliton

TL;DR it's an interesting paper, but don't get your hopes up.
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I made the Big Science Hate Thread for continued griping about the state of theoretical physics and academia in general: >>>/sci/476

With these issues out of the way I can now immediately derail the thread again with a dank schizopost.

>>357
>Time travel
One might think that whatever the UFOs are using would allow for time travel. There seems to be an as yet unknown low energy mechanism for warping space, rather than accelerating the UFO by ordinary, high energy methods such as throwing stuff out the back.  
The speed of light might not be an absolute barrier if space itself is being warped.  Anything that moves faster than light is a time machine in somebody's reference frame. Relativity doesn't have a problem with time machines by itself, but there's a technicality which comes from quantum mechanics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_protection_conjecture

Any proposed time machine which is based on relativity (which is most of them, including all warp drives) should be 
destroyed by a blast of energy coming from quantum feedback just as it is about to become a time machine in *any* reference frame.

Time machines based on quantum mechanics could get around this effect.
Professor Seth Lloyd of MIT built a time machine based on a variant of quantum teleportation!
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1005.2219

You didn't hear about this in the news because he only sent single photons a few billionths of a second back in time, and technically he didn't even do that, he just imposed a quantum state on these photons in the past. 
He used his "I'm not saying it's a time machine, but it's a time machine" time machine to test how the Universe resolves the grandfather paradox, by trying to get photons to kill themselves in the past. It turns out that the Novikov consistency conspiracy is real, i.e. an inconsistent Universe is never observed, because the Universe will find a way to thwart you if you try too hard to force a paradox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
In Lloyd's case, the "quantum gun" misfired depending on how well it was aimed.  See pic 5.  

It looks like Novikov's principle could be used to cause the controlled collapse of wavefunctions that come from outside the experiment.  
This would be big if true, especially under quantum many-worlds, where wavefunctions are replaced with splitting universes and there is no fundamental difference between microscopic happenings and macroscopic happenings, other than how long it takes to make an observation.

For example, imagine being able to use quantum voodoo to kill problematic world leaders, influence the result of a close election, etc.  All by vowing to force a time paradox if you don't get what you want. 
Mossad and the American Deep State would take an interest in this Universe hack if they thought it might ever be feasible.  
Pic 4 possibly related!

Prof. Lloyd went to Epstein's island. He took his money for years, and tried to hide it from MIT. He visited Epstein in prison in Florida in 2008.  His name comes up a few hundred times in the emails. He says Epstein used him to whitewash his reputation.  This may be true, but Lloyd's Epstein footprint is high, and Lloyd only did his mea culpa when it became clear that Epstein was an albatross around his neck.
https://www.promarket.org/2020/01/16/the-epstein-report-how-a-convicted-criminal-could-use-mit-to-whitewash-his-reputation/
https://www.thetech.com/2019/11/21/mitsaw-seth-lloyd

Lloyd and Epstein didn't discuss long range quantum voodoo as far as I know, and Lloyd didn't mention it in his 2010 paper.  But if I can come up with the idea, so can he. This whole situation makes my tinfoil hat tingle. It might be worth a deeper dig to see if Lloyd really was just another scientist that Epstein liked to keep in his orbit.

FWIW, I do believe that there will be a quantum version of the chronology protection conjecture, in which the Universe will thwart anyone who would be prone to abuse this power.  I.e. if you would try to use quantum voodoo to win the Powerball jackpot then you're asking to be struck by lightning first, because that is more likely to happen naturally. The timelines are like a braided river.  Throw a boulder in one channel, and the probability flow through other channels will increase.

>inb4 Project Looking Glass
>inb4 Greys are from the future
With many things quantum (including Seth Lloyd's time machine), the tech scales terribly when a lot of particles must maintain a coherent wavefunction over time, 
so forget about sending large masses or billions of photons decades into the past.  JMHO.
You would also need to have a time machine that existed in the past in order to send things back.  No DeLoreans.
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>>484
After a bit of digging, things look kinda pathetic.  
Epstein was only smart with social skills and organization. In academic matters, he was a midwit pseud with a huge ego, which he kept inflated by paying scientists to dance like monkeys in exchange for cash.  Seth Lloyd was always willing to dance.

https://www.reddit.com/r/QuantumComputing/comments/1quhoa3/latest_epstein_files_include_seth_lloyd_mikhail/

Epstein's personal interest in time travel may have involved a fantasy of teleporting his "superior" sperm back in time into the wombs of schoolgirls he once fancied. This Dr. Evil tier retardation was never going to happen. 

>we should explore the biological consequences of time travel. it would be amusing to calculate the rate of evolution of a population (or a mutant) that can travel in time.
>At the horizon of black holes, as one crosses the boundary, in fact time and space exchange behaviors…. new experiments allow time travel to the past, however time is still only defined by the vibrations of cesium atoms. only as a parameter, not satisfying to Jews.

Whether Mossad or DARPA secretly found an application "satisfying to Jews" is another question...

BTW, I forgot to say that Novikov was often mentioned as a possible test of interpretations of quantum mechanics.  Falsification of Novikov would strongly imply many worlds by eliminating the competition.  However, many worlds doesn't necessarily contradict Novikov.

There is a thread on /x/ about the disappearance of General William Niel McCasland, former head of the classified space weapons research program at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, where the Roswell UFO materials were supposedly sent.
>>>/x/3070
>>445
>Dielectrophoresis
This is a conventional physics effect which can be used to levitate things between electrodes. The electrodes exert
an electrostatic force on whatever is between them. 

The whole system can't pull itself up by its bootstraps unless it has very high voltage and asymmetric plates as in your
first image, then there might be an electrogravitic effect according to T. T. Brown, but this was not demonstrated here. 
Everything the guy talked about can be explained by conventional physics. IMHO it would not be good for artificial "gravity" inside spacecraft due to unsafe voltages and the risk of static charges zapping sensitive equipment.

>>448
>Heim theory
I watched that part of the video and it's way too complicated for me to say anything about it one way or another, other than not being a fan of super complex multidimensional theories of quantum gravity, for reasons already stated.
Others have said Heim theory predicts another electron and two extra neutrinos but does not predict quarks. If so, it's already falsified.

There was other interesting stuff in the video, particularly on the Searl effect generator starting at 3:54:00.  IDK what he is talking about with the law of squares and the geometry of his roller magnets, sounds like hokey numerological autism TBH, but I am glad to see a skilled Maker
doing a precision experiment with variations.  I think the key breakthrough will come from a meticulous and dedicated experimenter like him (or T. T. Brown).
Then the theorists will argue about which of the infinite flavors of n-dimensional quantum mumbo jumbo explains it best. 

There are ~250 hours of APEC videos! This is a great resource which I intend to come back to, starting with the Biefeld-Brown effect, but I can't watch everything.

Thanks for sharing.
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