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A Thread for:

Luddites
Tinfoilheads
Antivaxxers
Big Pharma haters
Goyslop haters
Big Tech haters
NASA haters
Technocracy haters
Global warming skeptics
Oldschool Treehuggers
Butlerian Jihadists
Sabine Hossenfelder fans
Physics stagnation conspiracy theorists.  Spinoff from >>>sci/1 - starts past the Cheshire cat
Discussion of murders, coverups, and tech suppression
Science as a priesthood propping up Government
Man-Made Horrors Beyond Our Comprehension, i.e. the Doom Brain, >>>sci/475
Academia's sacred cows and how to butcher them
Stories about academic waste, busywork, knob polishing, grifting and straight-up fraud
Stories about getting kicked out of academia due to woke witch hunts or other BS
Stories about academics being herd animals, disconnected from reality, and sometimes quite dumb outside of their narrow fields.

Post your redpills and stories here.
I'll start:
>Famous physicist wants a short paper to plant a flag with his latest theory.
>Easy publication.  Probably because he was famous?
>Turns out the theory was seriously flawed due to one false assumption.
>These things happen, which is why flag planting is risky, but so is waiting. It's a gamble either way.
>Back to the drawing board.
>He and his student spend years re-working the theory, making it much better, and running computer simulations to back it up.
>This was the student's Ph.D. thesis. They try to publish two big papers with the student as first author.
>Reviewer slaps his dick on the table and says he's not approving anything without a total rewrite of the simulations to include 3D  magnetohydrodynamics and radiation transport.
>Student suggests publishing on arXiv anyways because he thinks the new theory is pretty good.
>Famous physicist says no; says there is peer review for a reason, insists that the reviewer's concerns can be addressed (this was never going to happen)
>Student leaves academia after getting Ph.D. 
>The papers, and the famous physicist, get old and die.
>End result: One bullshit paper, one disillusioned young physicist, and a whole lot of wasted time.  No clear villains, just a failure of the system.
oh, so you posted your biography. I've heard enough redpills on "peer" "review" on sci to know it's a crock of shit and gatekeeping
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>>477
Yes, that student was me.  Guess it was pretty obvious. 

You are right about peer review.  Peer review turned science into Reddit.  The guy most responsible for this seems to have been Robert Maxwell: Academic publisher, Mossad super spy, and father of Ghislaine Maxwell.

Pic related was another major reason why I left.  The douchebag in charge of our institution was involved in some absurd grandstanding that harmed our ability to do science.  I don't want to provide details for fear of doxxing myself.  Suffice to say that I no longer considered theoretical physics to be a good use of the taxpayers' money. In retrospect maybe I should have stayed in, because at least it's not a BAD use of the taxpayers' money.
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>>478
Sabine has been pretty good at nailing these topics.  Pic related is supposedly a good read in this vein
All the stuff I actually used from my degrees was from the first two years of undergrad. The second half of undergrad was sometimes interesting, but it wasn't useful.  Grad school was about proving that I could grind extremely difficult problem sets and then sit in a cubicle for years without chimping out. 

You will never be stranded on a desert planet and find that you have to grind through spherical harmonics problems in order to escape. No corporation will expect you to be able to grind them out on the fly.
It's enough to know these things exist, do a few of them and move on, while keeping the textbook. Your time would be better spent getting a conceptual understanding of higher-level stuff. 
You will never get back all the time you will spend in the stacks searching for every last butt to kiss in your bibliography.
Grinding is an opportunity cost during what should be the best years of your life.

Degrees are so expensive in America. 1/3 of the courses will be leftist indoctrination, you can be kicked out at any time by a kangaroo court, and the degree won't be worth much anyways because academia values PC victim points more than competence, and corporate America values cheap toadies with fake degrees more than they value competence.

In retrospect I could have skipped three upper level undergraduate math classes, three upper level physics classes, one CS class, all the humanities electives, and all of grad school and still be where I am with book knowledge.  Plus I would have started to find my way in the real world at age 20 and learned many things that can't be learned in books.

So, let's have lab-heavy associates degrees in science.
Quicker, cheaper, just as useful, more room to grow and less of a loss for those who end up doing something else.

This will probably never happen.
Smart people wasting their fertile years is part of the social engineering.
Debt slavery is part of the social engineering.
Corporations would rather hire an incompetent H1b with a completely fake resume than spend a few minutes rummaging for a textbook that a competent employee could use to fill any gaps in his knowledge.
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>>478
>Peer review turned science into Reddit.
Cmon man, like science was ever understandable to plebs.
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>>480
pretty much everyone who goes through postsecondary says the same thing these days. Which is how stupid it all is. This is especially so with the people past bachelor's level from my experience.
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>>481
What I meant is that peer review has made science more susceptible to groupthink and ego games.

Imagine if every reddit post was held in limbo until peer reviewed by "expert fact checkers" who must have a certain minimum amount of reddit karma.  These people would be chosen in secret by mods who might not like that poster for whatever reason. Anyone who fails to post frequently or fails to collect a certain amount of karma per year will find this is held against him whenever he tries to post in a new thread. Imagine how cancerous a forum like that would be. 

>>482
Well, good to know it's not just me being retarded.  I feel like it sometimes because I forgot all the physics I learned in grad school, due to lack of use.

BTW I think science associate degrees do exist in America but they are not common or respected, and I have never heard of one for something like physics.  Every potential employer expects a masters at the very least.
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>>483
Nah, peer review is alright as a concept, it more about the people behind who are utilizing it and how. Its like that with most of the things.
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I don't know much about cold fusion but I could see that someone put a shadowy dead hand on it. Now we know whose hand it was. 

Epstein said he "killed" Stanley Pons by making him a pariah and having Congress cut off his funding. This is from a guy who talks about out of body experiences and funds research into telepathy and time travel so it's not about being stodgy, and if it was, why care so much about Pons? If he was a quack, the other scientists would have figured that out. Power wielded through nefarious means should be wielded sparingly, so as to remain hidden. 

The conspiracy theorists were right again. They were always saying that Jews want to control energy to keep the goyim on the hamster wheel. Whenever it looks like someone might find a way to escape from this control grid, they shut him down, often in the early stages while outcomes are still ambiguous or can be made ambiguous. Tesla, Pons, John Searl, etc, etc.
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Nice thread ya got here. I am somewhat of an autist myself.
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>>483
the standard story on /sci/ and even reddit is that the kid gets to the PHD level and thinks they're going to do real science, and then the rugpull happens and they end up grinding for some vain professorial gatekeeper with the grant money where they learn the entire thing is a sham. It honestly sounds like you need to be outside of institutions entirely to do science at all these days, the grand poobahs can't afford to allow falsification or losing their monies
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>>489
Yes, I've seen that.  A friend's thesis advisor kept him as his personal hunchback for years too long and nearly bullied him into a nervous breakdown.
I have seen it happen with postdocs too, where they end up in limbo doing a series of low paid bitch jobs in towns they would never want to live in.  
Thankfully, my thesis advisor was great. Everyone I have worked for in science has been good.  The main thing that disillusioned me is that publication is not based only on science, it's science + politics + luck. You need a minimum combined score to get published, and if you don't publish early and often you're kinda screwed.  

>The grand poopahs can't allow falsification or losing their monies
This 100%

>>488
Thanks, anon.
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>>490
Right, which leads to things like the climate change grift where they are writing highly political IPCC reports which politicians directly edit and then pay for. Peak reddit

It does seem at the larger level that science is simply broken as it currently stands. If you have generations of people learning it only to end up sidelined working under other people forwarding their ideas instead of novel ones.... that's never going to do anything but reproduce trending ideas rather than challenge them and advance things further.
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>>492
I heard just the other day about a little girl who got bowel cancer when she was seven. Now she's disabled for life. I didn't have the heart to ask vax status....
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>>496
Also Alzheimer's disease, strokes, amyloidosis, heart disease and heart attacks are now a thing among young children apparently.

https://naturalnews.com/ is a good site for Big Science haters' news feeds.
How can we build an alternative to kike controlled science?  I hate the idea of relying on kike pharmaceuticals,  education, or manufacturing, but some of the technology they hold could be useful.  How can we get ahold of it?
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Here we go again, with a much deadlier virus.

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