/r/ - Religion

>Has the golden tablets, nobody but him is allowed to see them.
>Puts them in a hat to translate them so nobody else can see them.  
>Translates them.  
>Guy who takes it all down begins to have doubts.  Thinks Smith might have been making it all up and there never were any golden tablets.  
>Very smart wife tells him to have Smith translate them a second time.  If both are exactly the same, then it's legit.  If Smith can't remember his random bullshit and tells a different story the second time, it's bullshit.
>Guy asks Smith to do it a second time.  
>Smith claims the golden tablets disappeared. 

You can't possibly be so stupid as to believe in Mormonism.  Anybody with any sense at all, like the wife, can see right through it.

>>1013
just a weak strawman argument about the founding.
it's no different than making a stupid explanation about the Nicaean council determining what was in the bible, or how the pope has authority.

The Mountain Meadows Massacre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

Nothing like slaughtering 120 Oakie dirt farmers, men, women and children... who surrendered to your raiding party... to prove you're doing the work of God.  Then covering it up, pretending it was indians that did it.  Mormons are one of the only religious groups I consider worse than talmud kikes.

>>1018
Is it true or isn't it?  You know it is.

>>1020
>>1021
Oh yeah it totally happened.
Doesn't disprove Mormonism.

>>1021
It's the spamming kike. Don't bother.

>>1021
As if you can't find thousands of examples of massacres carried out by christians, muslims, jews, or other groups.
The german crusade that never actually left germany? The time the catholics massacred the cathars because they couldn't debate them?

>>1024
Hello, pot? Kettle calling

>>1025
I don't know of one covered up with lies by the equivalent to the Apostle Peter.  Who would be your Brigham, "Bullshit" Young in the story.

>>997 (OP) 

Mormonism seems a bit like Scientology before Scientology. 

https://youtu.be/n3BqLZ8UoZk

>>1024
The kike is your lord and savior the Cheetochrist.  You should post a thread about your new religion sometime.  I'
d live to hear about it.  Maybe the only thing more ridiculous and insane than Mormonism.

>>1022
You're being serious?

I am not a mormon, never lived close to one, i havent the fucking slightest idea what they believe in. Being white is cool tho.

>>1029
What's with attacking me for being a Trumpist. I don't like zion don either.

>>1031
Yes, massacres happen. It doesn't mean the religion isn't true. Otherwise Christianity wouldn't have been true for thousands of years.
>>1028
Not the worst argument, but also not disproving that it's real. It's just an association with something more commonly seen as nothing but a scam by a fiction writer when the doctrines are fundamentally different
>>1032
based answer. Wanna find out?
>>1027
another useless attack
>>1033
ah, the two canadian retards who disagree and agree with each other depending on which one is speaking

>>1034
>Wanna find out?
What does that imply? I`ll be catious.

>>1035
oh i can just tell you what i know about it. based on questions or i can give summaries of different sections. I'm not going to make you read the book or send the missionaries your way lmao

>>1036
haha i was just joking. So yeah, do other white americans take mormons seriously?

>>1037
well if they're about 85% of the church in the US- then about 5.8 million people take it seriously.
Can't say what other people think, but you can probably assume there's another 10 million who associate with them that don't think they're completely retarded

>>1037
Kinda. They're basically the equivalent of muslims that never returned to take Mecca.

>>1038
Even the evangelicals think mormons are retarded.

>>1040
well the evangelicals are retarded if you ask the protestants, who are retarded if you ask the catholics, who are retarded if you ask anyone else.

So it doesn't disprove shit

>>1038
>>1039
They tend to come off as larpers, dont they? Have some wild beliefs, its thats the right word?

>>1041
The Catholics know Mormons are retarded...The Orthodox know Mormons are retarded...The non-rainbow Prots. know Mormons are retarded...The rainbow Prots. think Mormons are just fine. Just like Muslims, Mormons are not Christians, nor do any Christians think them to be such.

>>1043
Yes. Think Gnosticism toned down and mixed with revival prots.

>>1043
wild beliefs is the right word
larpers might not be accurate
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they're generally criticized for thinking that in jerusalem a prophet was called to leave the city with his and another family before it fell to invaders. They then travelled East. Where eventually they ran into the ocean. They then built arks that were basically submarines, and used the "leohona" as both a compass and a light source, they then arrived in the Americas and had a lot of population growth that led to tribes and societies- these then fought each other and the righteous at times were called the Nephites- sometimes they were wicked- it culminates with Jesus coming to the Americas- but several hundred years later they're wicked again and one man takes the religious plates and seals them away as society has become entirely savage. 
That's like, a fraction of what they are accused of for wild beliefs
>>1045
Fuck you gnostics are literally the worst.

>>1045
wow so a bunch of people who are retards think someone else is a retard? They must be right

>>1046
They're the white version of Yakubian, we wuz Egyptians, blacks.

>>1048
again just an ad-hominem that doesn't prove anything

>>1049
Are you a mormon?

>>1046
Yo natives cursing the land really showed on anglo-saxon, good portion of you went crazy. Its like im reading literal fan-fiction of Bible.

>>1052
nah
>>1053
that's just what they think, idk

>>1056
Then why did you bake this thread?

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>>997 (OP) 
Rabbi's got a quick hand
He'll look around the globe, he won't tell you his plan
He's got a toddler's phallus, hanging out his mouth (he's a synagogue kid)
Yeah, found a six day old son
In his Dad's tunnel hidden oh on a mattress of soiled things, I don't even know what
But he's coming for you, yeah he's coming for you

All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, out run my ethno-weapon
All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, faster than my two million dollar lab
All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, out run my ethno-weapon
All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, faster than my two million dollar lab

Goyim works a long day
He be coming home late, he's coming home late
And he's bringing jews a surprise
'Cause the final solution's in the fume hood and it's rotated in a centrifuge
I've waited for a long time
Yeah the slight of my hand is now inside a quick pull viscometer
I reason with my micropipette
And say (((   your   ))) schizophrenic genes are on fire, (((   you   ))) must have lost your wits, yeah

All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, out run my ethno-weapon
All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, faster than my two million dollar lab
All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, out run my ethno-weapon
All the other yids with the fucked up tricks
You'd better run, better run, faster than my two million dollar lab

A good Mormon/freemason rabbit hole.  Look up a guy named William Morgan.  He was a newspaper editor who was murdered in the early 1800's in new York for exposing masonic secrets in his little newspaper in Batavia, New York.   His widow was married off to a mason and wound up being one of Joseph Smith's wives.  Apparently the masons married her off to him to make sure she was taken care of.  Kind of like the mafia will take care of a made man's wife after they whack him.  Smith was a freemason, and Mormonism has been a sewer of freemasonry from the beginning.

>>1056
What the fuck bro non Mormon shilling Mormonism?

https://youtu.be/xKPOe3QVI0k

>>1085
It's the kike spammer that's all over /r/.

>>1086
says the kike spammer that's all over /pol/

>>1086
>>1088

who's kike spamming who fellas?

>>1088
Name it. Here's your D&C

First instance of spam:
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/152.html

Major spergout:
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/43.html

Threads:
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/91.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/21.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/500.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/79.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/67.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/64.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/128.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/1000.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/1054.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/997.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/23.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/122.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/47.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/64.html

Suspected:
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/864.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/885.html

You are half the board. It's amazing.

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>>1091
man your quite religious about the spammer

>>1091

These are all the same person besides

>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/152.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/997.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/864.html
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/885.html

>>1094
You are the spammer

>>1095
Good to have confimation.

>>1095
Could the jannies please deal with him

>>1091
here's the thing though, the Admin can back me up... I made NONE of those threads you FUCKING RETARDED SCHIZOPHRENIC FAGGOT

>>1101
oh, right, I made 
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/997.html

but of course a fucking retard like you would bother putting them in post order

more to the point the only one of those I even posted in aside from this one was: >https://ourchan.org/r/thread/122.html

fucking KILL yourself you retarded sperg

>>997 (OP) 
South Park nailed it without even have mentioned that Independence, MO is the biblical garden of eden and featherniggers are the original adamic race

>>1103
Yes they did.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWoePkBt31g&t

>>1013
>nobody but him is allowed to see them.
Smith showed the plates to at least 11 people, who wrote their testimonies in the intro to the book. You are getting your historical knowledge from cartoons about poop.

>>1203
He showed them to Brigham Young and the other 11 bullshit elders.   Yeah... we can trust them.  Get real anon.  You want a Bible?  I'll send you one, free.  I feel no need to hide it from you.  I want you to see it.

>>1210
Young was not one of the witnesses. Man, you're dumb. Why don't you just read the book and stop bring dumb?

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/three?lang=eng
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/eight?lang=eng

>>997 (OP) 
Doctrine and Covenants 1:37-38

>“37 Search these commandments, for they are true and faithful, and the prophecies and promises which are in them shall all be fulfilled.

>38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.

>39 For behold, and lo, the Lord is God, and the Spirit beareth record, and the record is true, and the truth abideth forever and ever. Amen.”

Joseph Smith agrees that God’s prophecies (spoken by him or through his prophets) cannot fail

Doctrine and Covenants 114
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Far West, Missouri, April 11, 1838…
>“1 Verily thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world.”

The next spring, David Patten was to start a mission, was Smith’s (false) prophecy fulfilled?

Of course not, David Patten died in October of 1838 before any mission was started. 
Joseph Smith, “History of the Church”, Volume 3, P.163
https://archive.org/details/history-of-the-church-volume-3/page/163/mode/1up
>“Brother Patten was buried this day…”

Joseph Smith was a false prophet buried by his own prophecies.

Alma 7:10 states Christ will be born in Jerusalem which contradicts the OT prophecies and their fulfillment in the NT. 
https://archive.org/details/teachingsofproph00smit
P.370 literally affirms polytheism.

The false prophet Joseph Smith is wrong again in D&C section 111 where he falsely claimed that God revealed to him that Salem (being full of treasure) would fall to the Mormons which never happened. Why would anyone ever take this man seriously?