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This is a timeline I created of the events of the Book Of Revelation, in the order they are listed in Revelation.  I don't think it is necessarily the order in which they occur purely.  Just the order in which John discussed them.  It's a huge file, about a 15MB .PNG.   I printed a paper copy that was 15 legal sized pages long.  It's big.  Way too big to display properly in the picrel.  The picrel is just a small excertp of it.  To get the full thing in a viewable form, go to the link, right click, and open the image in a new window.   It'll display in full readable resolution, and you can save it from there if you want to. 

Not every verse is included.  Only events that we might be able to see, hear, or experience are included.  The timeline is not a substitute for reading Revelation.   But it might be an aid to help you visualize what is going on.  Obvious groups events are color coded.   I've added a feature that points you to other related items in the timeline.  Not necessary the same event in all cases, but events that are similar.  For instance, one event may include great earthquakes and a hail storm.  Further down the timeline is another event that includes earthquakes and hail.  The red letters under the verse number will point you to it.  

Eventually I'll add in other verses from other places in the Bible that discuss these events.   When I finish it, I'll post it here as an update.  If you've ever had trouble understanding Revelation, I think seeing it in this format, might be a big help for you.  

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>>837 (OP) 
Wow anon. That's pretty impressive. Thank you.

What's your opinion on post-millennialism?
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>>837 (OP) 
the events of revelation took place during the 1st century a.d.  
with the advent of ((( christian zionism ))) in the late 1800s the khazars have been using these scriptures as a blueprint.  I'm not saying that these events will not occur in the future; I'm saying that when they do occur it will be the culmination of a jew plot and not of the creator of heaven and earth.
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>>839
Revelations is two prophesies spread out over periods of time. Some has happened, some may be happening, some is yet to come.
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>>840
type preterism into a search engine
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>>838
>post-millennialism?

I don't believe in it. It makes more sense to me that these are the last few power plays the two sides make against each other, in preparation for the last battle, Armageddon.   It's all about Armageddon, and getting the upper hand to beat the other guy.  Both sides are recruiting foot soldiers for it.  Both sides are enforcing discipline among their forces.  Both sides are trying to steal or eliminate the other side's foot soldiers.  It makes more sense to me that this all happens in a narrow time frame.  Battle plans for this thing may have been laid 2000 years ago, or earlier.  That I can believe.  But what John is talking about here is the last big push before either God, or the Devil, is eliminated forever.
>>840
It's actually three prophecies.  The first three books is one.  From there up to about the seventh trumpet is the second.  Seventh Trumpet to the end is the third.  Some might say what happened to the seven churches is in the past.  I don't know if it is.  The apostles wrote letters to churches in their day.  But basically what was contained in them applied to everybody.  I don't see why Revelation should operate any differently.
>>840
This. If you need even one reference point that Revelation at bare minimum was a prediction of the future, just look at the Mark of the Beast references. Was there any other point in history, especially during those times, where you could not buy or sell / needed a tattoo or any other signifier and device on your hand or forehead to participate in society? I can't think of any, especially ones specific to that geographical era or time periods surrounding it.

Call it a failed prophecy for its time if you want, but it was unflinchingly accurate for our current days. How much of this is intentional engineering to make a prophecy come true or genuine divine insight, who knows (and remains up to the reader), but all the writing is on the wall here in the present day for the words within Revelation.
>>839

>the events of revelation took place during the 1st century a.d. 


I've never come close to buying that because I have seen no historical evidence that much of anything described in Revelation ever happened.  No mark of the beast.  No great stone falling into the sea sinking 1/3rd of the ships.  No destruction of Jerusalem by earthquake and fire in one hour.  Nobody lived 1000 years.  And I see no evidence that Jesus ever took control of the world.  It's as rotten and and Satan controlled as it's ever been.  Only man's vanity would ever lead him to conclude that the rat catholic church is evidence of Jesus taking over.  Or backslidden Anglicans, because England is so wonderful it must be Jesus' 1000 year earthly kingdom.   and so on.  There simply is no case for it.  You can't go down the list and check off all the boxes.  A few of them, dubiously maybe, but not all.
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>>851
see  >>845
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>>854
I know what it is, and I don't believe it.  My suspicion...  the catholic church likes to claim it's Jesus' voice here on earth.  What better way to drive that home than to claim we're living in the millennial reign, and of course the pope is God's spokesman.  It would have happened before the schism, because many Eastern Orthodox adherents largely believe it too.  I can't point to the phony pope who came up with it, but we do know it became popular during the counter reformation.  That information may not even any longer exist but in the Vatican archives.  And it may not any longer exist at all.   But if I was bet on it, that's what I'd place my money on.
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One of the interesting things I'll point out that's in that timeline is how the 7 grouped events are presented.  Seven seals, seven trumpets, seven bowls.  I never noticed this until I laid the timeline out.  But John typically rattled off the first 5 or 6 in quick succession, then left the topic to cover something else.  Eventually he returned to complete the list.  You see an example of it in the picrel.  I think God, through John, was trying to tell us something there.  The first several will come at somewhat regular or predictable intervals.  But there will be a longer pause, of unknown length near the end of the series.  Maybe he's trying to tell us not to attempt to predict it.  We'll be wrong.  It will probably come later than what we guess it will, not according to the established pattern, if there is one.  

Jesus says twice in there, that he'll come at a time that will surprise you, and he better not catch you seeping.  So don't fall into the trap of figuring, well, I guess he's not coming, or, I have two more weeks, might as well get drunk and get some blow and a whore.  Don't slide back into your old ways.  One day you'll think is over, and bang, you'll find out it wasn't.
>>862
the preterists have it wrong inasmuch as they are going on the established belief that the book was written in 95 AD and work though mental gymnastics to attribute the (symbolic) 1,000 year reign between from the resurrection to the temple's destruction (i think ---  I could be wrong - it's been decades since i researched this).  I believe that the book was written while Jerusalem was under siege and the author was prophesying that Jesus was going to destroy the Roman army and then establish his reign.
After the events of 70 AD the olivet discourse was inserted into Matthew to make it appear that the 2nd coming of Christ was fulfilled with the temple's destruction.
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>>874
You can't even force it to make sense.  1000 years of Jesus personally running the earth, what changed?  Nothing.  All the same problems.  Now it's after the millennium, when Satan was supposed to be cast into hell forever.   The world is still suffering from all the same problems, nothing has changed, open Satan worship has increased if anything.  You basically have to ignore the entire book of Revelation to make preterism fit.
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Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon, the whore.  I never really knew what it was until putting this timeline together.  To be perfectly honest, I had a problem being able to follow Revelation.  It's like the second I moved on to the next verse, I'd already forgotten the one I just read.  I could never connect dots in any meaningful way.  Which I don't usually have a problem doing.  I find it a lot easier in this timeline format.  

Jerusalem, Jesus called it, the city that kills prophets.  
>Matt 23:37  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee...
>Revelation 18:24  And there was found in her the blood of prophets and saints, and all who were slain on the earth. 

I think it is possible that the identity was kept intentionally vague as it does not simply include a few rat jews in Jerusalem, but rather their entire earthy operation, and everybody who has thrown their lot in with Satan and the children of Satan, no matter who or where they might be.  But principally, the big fish is Jerusalem and the evil scum that lives there.
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