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WEIRD is an acronym for Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic. It refers to people of northwest European descent and was coined to warn against the pitfalls of studying them to understand human nature in general. They are not necessarily the same as people elsewhere.

Two decades ago, a group of social scientists concluded “not only that WEIRD people were one population within a spectrum of cultural variation but that they were often unusual, outliers anchoring the ends of global distributions.” They diverge from other populations in many areas of life, including sensory ability, economic preferences, personality structure, morality and cognition (Henrich, 2024).

Northwest Europeans are so distinct because they have adapted to an atypical environment of weak kinship, strong individualism and “impersonal pro-sociality,” i.e., social interactions that are less personal and less emotionally intense but extend much further than friends and family.

For at least a thousand years, this behavioral environment has prevailed north and west of a line running from Trieste to St. Petersburg (known as the Hajnal line). It is characterized by certain longstanding patterns of behavior:

Solitary living for at least part of adulthood, with many individuals remaining single their entire lives.

Departure from the home upon reaching adulthood, either to form a new household or to circulate among unrelated households, typically as servants.

Less loyalty to kin and greater willingness to trust strangers (Schulz et al., 2019; see also Frost, 2017; Frost, 2020; Hajnal, 1965; Hartman, 2004; hbd chick, 2014; ICA, 2020; MacDonald, 2019; Seccombe, 1992, pp. 94-95, 150-153, 184-190).

Most authors see WEIRDness as a legacy of Western Christianity, the form of Christianity that arose in Western Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of barbarian kingdoms. According to this theory, northwest Europeans became less clannish and more individualistic because cousin marriage was increasingly restricted by the early Western Church:

Roman times: only first-cousin marriages were banned.

7th century: the ban was extended two degrees further when the Western Church adopted the anti-incest prohibitions of the Visigothic Code.

Early 9th century: the Western Church began to calculate degrees of kinship through the so-called “Germanic system,” thus doubling the number of forbidden marriage partners (Chandelier, 2021, p. 224; see Note).

The last measure forced almost everyone to marry outside their clan, causing clans to disappear and making people more individualistic and less concerned about kinship ties (hbd chick, 2014; McCann, 2010, pp. 57-58; Schulz et al., 2019).

Others, however, have argued that the cousin marriage ban was simply a Christianization of existing norms, specifically Germanic ones (Frost, 2020; Kirkegaard, 2025; MacDonald, 2019; Policy Tensor, 2021). As the Christian faith spread north and west, it absorbed local customs, including those relating to marriage:

During the period preceding the Teutonic invasion, speaking broadly, the church adhered to the Roman law and custom; thereafter those of the Germans, even when the marriage consisted in the formal sale and tradition [i.e., transfer] of the bride, were accepted. (Howard, 1904, p. 291).

Germanic provenance is evident in the bans themselves. The 7th century ban was taken from the Visigothic Code, and the new kinship calculation method, adopted in the 9th century, was referred to as “Germanic” (Chandelier, 2021, p. 224; Frost, 2020; McCann, 2010, pp. 57-58; see Note).

Moreover, as shown by data from early medieval estates, northwest Europeans were already WEIRD in the 9th century, when the Church’s most extreme ban on cousin marriage came into effect. French households were already small and nuclear, with 12% to 16% of adults not yet married and adults usually marrying in their mid to late twenties (Hallam, 1985, p. 56).

High rates of delayed marriage seem to have long been common among northwest Europeans, as suggested by the writings of Julius Caesar and Tacitus on the Germanic tribes of Antiquity:

Those who have remained chaste for the longest time, receive the greatest commendation among their people: they think that by this the growth is promoted, by this the physical powers are increased and the sinews are strengthened. And to have had knowledge of a woman before the twentieth year they reckon among the most disgraceful acts.
—Caesar, De Bello Gallico 6:21

Late comes love to the young men, and their first manhood is not enfeebled; nor for the girls is there any hot-house forcing; they pass their youth in the same way as the boys.
—Tacitus, Germania 20

Evidence from ancient DNA
We can look for earlier evidence of cousin marriage avoidance by examining DNA from remains in ancient cemeteries, specifically the degree of genetic similarity between spouses as measured by runs of homozygosity (ROH).

To date, there have been four such studies from pre-Christian Western Europe. All four show that cousin marriages were already rare. The first analysed 57 genomes from the 1st century BC to the 1st century CE in Southern England:

Y chromosome diversity is high … and patterns of ROH imply that these were relatively large outbreeding communities. (Cassidy et al., 2025)

The second analysed 248 genomes from the 3rd to 8th centuries in southern Germany:

The near absence of long (>12 cM) runs of homozygosity (ROH) and the lack of shared IBD segments (>8 cM) between spouses support strict incest avoidance, excluding relationships closer than the sixth degree. (Blöcher et al., 2025)

The third analysed 722 genomes from the 7th to 8th centuries in Austria:

Given that none of the newly reported individuals carry high amounts of runs-of-homozygosity genomic regions—the indication of inbreeding—as estimated by hapROH … we infer that consanguinity was strictly avoided in both [the Mödling site] and [the Leobersdorf site] across six generations … That was mainly achieved by exogamy: 17 of the 19 (90%) mothers buried in Leobersdorf with identifiable offspring have no ancestors buried on site; in the much larger community of Mödling, they are 46 out of 59 (78%). Many daughters seem to have left to be married elsewhere; between ages 7 and 17 years, the sex ratios of the deceased male to female individuals at LEO and MGS are about 1.5:1 and 1.7:1 respectively, and among adults, hardly any female individuals born by parents on site remain. (Wang et al., 2025)

The fourth analysed 424 genomes from the 2nd to mid-9th centuries in Hungary:

We find no cases of biological consanguinity, based on the absence of long runs of homozygosity (ROH) segments in all analysed individuals …. We do not even detect ROH patterns consistent with more-distant consanguineous unions, such as at the level of second-degree cousins, despite a high occurrence of levirate and multipartner unions. Among Eurasian steppe peoples, intermarriage within the paternal line was permitted only after a certain number of generations, which could range between five and nine. Such rules would explain the absence of even distant biological consanguinity. It is intriguing that the only case we detected of reproductive partners being related was to the sixth degree (which would still be consistent with such rules) and involves the only non-exogamous female individual in RK. This further suggests the uniqueness of this single case. (Gnecchi-Ruscone et al., 2024)

Discussion
Mentally and behaviorally, northwest Europeans are an outlier. In comparison to other humans, they are more individualistic, have weaker kinship ties and are more impersonal in their social interactions. Apparently, this has long been the case.

As a result, they have been better at transcending the limitations of kinship and creating larger forms of social organization, notably the state and the market economy. They have also been more inclined to think in terms of a potentially universal morality, an inclination that perhaps made them more receptive to the Christian faith. In such a moral system:

Rules are framed in universal and absolute terms, as opposed to the situational and relativistic framing of kinship.

Help is willingly given to non-kin, as long as they belong to the same community of rule followers.

Continual rule breaking leads to expulsion from the community. The line between insiders and outsiders is much more a line between the morally worthy and the morally worthless. Xenophobia is much more a moral judgment than a simple rejection of the “Other.”

This kind of moral system has, in turn, favored certain mental and behavioral adaptations:

Affective empathy is extended from the mother-child relationship to all social relationships. Through this involuntary transfer of another person’s feelings to oneself, rule breaking is experienced emotionally as harm not only to others but also to oneself.

Rule breaking is punished much more by guilt than by shame. A rule breaker feels guilty even when no one else has witnessed the rule breaking. In contrast, shame is felt only when there are witnesses. Everyone thus accumulates a burden of guilt, which can be reduced only through forgiveness, penance, confession, absolution, etc. (Benedict, 1946; Frost, 2017; Frost, 2020).

This evolutionary trajectory is usually attributed to the Western Church’s ban on cousin marriage. Yet if we look at DNA from human remains, specifically runs of homozygosity between spouses, we see that northwest Europeans were avoiding cousin marriage long before Christianity.

However, the zone in which cousin marriage was rare seems to have included not only northwest Europeans but also populations further east. The studies from Austria and Hungary were done not only on DNA from indigenous Europeans (probably Slavic peoples) but also on DNA from Avars—a Turkic people who entered the Carpathian Basin in the 6th century.

Avoidance of cousin marriage may therefore be part of a broad North Eurasian adaptation, which then evolved into a more specialized one among northwest Europeans. This point is actually made, in part, by the authors of one of the studies mentioned above: “Among Eurasian steppe peoples, intermarriage within the paternal line was permitted only after a certain number of generations, which could range between five and nine. Such rules would explain the absence of even distant biological consanguinity” (Gnecchi-Ruscone et al., 2024).

In fact, cousin marriage may have been rare across all of Eurasia before becoming frequent in those regions where it is now common, i.e., the Middle East, North Africa and Central/South Asia. This is the conclusion of two studies, one of 411 genomes over the past 15,000 years and another of 1,785 genomes over the past 45,000 years (Ceballos et al., 2021; Ringbauer et al., 2021). Neither study, however, is sufficiently powered to tell us exactly when, where or how cousin marriage became more frequent. Perhaps it began among the elites of early Middle Eastern civilizations and was later emulated by everyone else, particularly with the spread of Islam.

In addition, neither of the above studies distinguishes between avoidance of first-cousin marriage and avoidance of all cousin marriages up to the sixth degree. The latter may have reached higher levels within a smaller zone of Eurasia.

Avenues for future research
Regardless of how we define avoidance of cousin marriage, it seems to be an imperfect yardstick for measuring the evolution of the entire mental and behavioral package of northwest Europeans—not only individualism but also high levels of affective empathy and guilt proneness, which led to the creation of a unique moral system. Some of these adaptations may have originated only in northwest Europe, while others may have arisen earlier within a broad North Eurasian zone.

To track how these adaptations evolved, we look for possible indications in ancient DNA. For instance, changes to the mean population level of affective empathy could be tracked by examining the alleles associated with this trait, which is 52-57% heritable (Frost, 2020). These alleles have already been identified and used to calculate polygenic scores (Wendt et al., 2022). The same approach might be used to see how guilt proneness has varied over space and time.

Note
In the Roman Empire, marriage between close relatives was forbidden up to the third degree, that is, marriage was prohibited between brothers and sisters, parents and children, and between uncles and nieces or aunts and nephews, as well as between ascendants and descendants without limit of degree.

Beginning in the 8th century, the Church began to impose a broader restriction and forbade unions up to the seventh degree, while changing the calculation method to impose the tradition of Germanic origin whereby the degree no longer means the number of relatives between two individuals, but the number of generations before reaching a common ancestor. Thus, two first cousins are kin in the fourth degree under the Roman system, but only in the second degree under the Germanic system: their common ancestor is their grandfather or their grandmother.

The seventh-degree prohibition promoted by the Church therefore corresponds to the fourteenth degree under the old system. This considerably broadened the scope of prohibited unions. It was enough to have in common a great-great-great-great-great-great grandparent for a marriage not to be permitted (Chandelier, 2021, p. 224, my translation).

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Kinda speed read through all of it, but get the gist.

Going by logic of, Christianity is not European, why did MENA abandon it in favor of Islam if its their creation and then NW Europeans adopted it and completely changed from what they were according to OPs text? That certain things have changed is a fact, but such a drastic change because adopting something that isnt yours is a bit odd, yet despite that Europeans have conquered the entire world in the name of Christ and even translated/saved ancient texts and  artefacts of savage peoples. My personal gripe with western form of Christianity primarily is that church doesnt allow regular priests to have families and children unlike Orthodox church where they server as an example of why population should have strong family units, monks are the only ones who go full ascetic not regular priests. Also there is nothing wrong with leaving the household upon reaching adulthood, on the contrary it should be something that EE should have done aswell, because if you dont, you dont move in any direction in life you stay at home but dont invest in it in the first place. For oppeness towards rest of the world and belief of universal morality could stem from environment theory of human evolution, where whites due to harsh winter climate learned to help each other, but i personally im not a fan of this theory. Generally faustian spirit existed before Faust, its just named after him due to reasons. Whites have been constantly been pushed back since 6000 BC, due to natural climate change (MENA being greener back then and because of many creation myths steming from that), holding of and making a comeback can definetely happen.
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>>2198
>adopting something that isnt yours is a bit odd

Considering the theory that at least some Europeans are the lost 10 tribes of Israelites, that wandered off somewhere, and were never seen again, it's not that strange. Christianity would be theirs to adopt.  Christianity is actually nothing but another chapter in Judaism's history.   Moses added a new piece, Daniel added what he had to say, Jesus finished the story off.  With the exception of The Book Of Revelation, later added by John to tell the very last story in the series.  If they were jews, probably backslidden and no longer practicing for the most part, they would be prime candidates to adopt it.  

In Voyages To Vineland, Leif Ericsson wrote about when the missionaries from Europe arrived in Iceland about 1000AD.  He said the conversion to Christianity was essentially universal.  Everybody in Iceland adopted it.  He said his father, Eric the Red, who died 2 years before they arrived, was the last Icelander to die a heathen.  Essentially what he was saying, is that every last Icelander converted to Christianity.  Of course people pretend, people go with the flow, people do what everybody else is doing, so I doubt it was truly everybody.  But close enough it seems.  That kind of tells me that it was a religion that essentially those people were primed for.  The Bible says God writes his laws in the hearts of his people.  If that is the case, then it was nothing new to them.  it was something they always believed anyway, even though maybe they couldn't put a finger on exactly what it was they believed, and what  it's name was.
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>>2223
>Considering the theory that at least some Europeans are the lost 10 tribes of Israelites, that wandered off somewhere, and were never seen again, it's not that strange.
That theory doesnt sound that insane to me really. Not in a way Brits proposed it, but from the perspective of Indo-European invasion of Middle East and NA. There is some merit to it.
If Christianity was such an important force in development, it probably had multiple different influences on development rather than just reducing cousin marriage. This acronym is silly in the sense that only Educated and Industrialized and independent variables whereas the rest are following indicators of internal development.  Some have also talked about the eugenic effects of strict death penalties

>>2223
don't take old books at face value. They frequently lie, exaggerate, tell smears for their own benefit and things like that.
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>>2226
>>2198
Just so we're all on the same page: the article states that christianity might NOT be the factor that shaped european societies to be WEIRD, right?
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>>2197 (OP) 
The word weird comes from WYRD as in the web of wyrd that the norns spin at the roots of Yggdrasil. The web of wyrd determines our fates.
>>2197 (OP) 
Some of what you're saying has nothing to do with Christianity. It's a crime that we aren't taught about our Proto-Indo-European roots in childhood and school.

What you need to imagine are nomadic pastoralists who did not live in densely populated towns or settlements. The lack of cousin marriage predates Christianity. It even has parallels in India which inherited Indo-European culture. We are unlikely to marry cousins because our ancestors were mobile and spread out. Patriarchal values and monogamy were part of how Proto-Indo-Europeans lived. They took a wife as property, often from a foreign clan or people (think Early European Farmers and Caucasians), and lived alone and relatively isolated with her in the nomadic way of life on the vast steppes. Those were nuclear families. The strong individualism was present well over 5000 years ago. Indo-Europeans set off on journeys to migrate all over Western and Central Eurasia.

A typical Northwest European is somewhere around ~50% Proto-Indo-European ~50% Globular Amphora Culture. Those two ethnicities are where the vast majority of ancient cultural features come from.
>>2227
Whether it was a factor or not, what Europeans became when Christianity was at its certain periods as OP is talking about, then that isnt really because of Christianity, it was already racially and genetically present. Christianity was just there at the right time to accent that trait in Europeans.
>>2197 (OP) 
They became weird by worshiping a imaginary jew.
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>>2236
Not the thread. If this issue persists, every post involved will be moved to hell.
>>2197 (OP) 
>Did an Oriental religion make Europeans Western?
>>2197 (OP) 
>Did Christianity make Europeans WEIRD? Or were they already that way?
Both, because people are retarded and that includes EVERYONE, no specials. It's already retarded that you decide for a religion instead of objective reality to start with. Intelligent and reasonable species my ass. We have a niche life experience with niche knowledge and niche views. Of those views many aren't even our own but adopted from the society we grew up in. Outside our functional niche we're garbage people because we start at 0% everything, severely behind everyone who's ahead. People are SHIT at sharing knowledge with another, SHIT at communicating what's relevant, SHIT at cooperating for mutual benefit but very good at making enemies and trying to cut corners.

It's already bad enough that we live in a material world, meaning: limited space and it's important to have access to the necessary resources, but on top of that these days we have capitalism. So we get the worst of both greed factors that ruin everything:
-evolutionary behavior from our genes that prefer laziness, social status and cutting corners instead of encouraging best standards and behavior (meek, supportive, cooperative, willing to share knowledge and good at it - as simple as possible but the full picture)
-Capitalism that makes more money with money than honest work, turning everything into an exploitation and gamble scheme, people, animals, natural resources alike in an exponential growth scheme that only works mathematically for the money but can't be adopted by a limited real world

Now to modern society: People are given the freedom to act how they want within the limitations of the law. What do we get from this on average: A model human citizen that's happy, friendly and pleasant to be around ?
No, of course not. 50:50 divide and conquer games because people really need someone to hate, absolute lunacy and peak degeneracy that doesn't even stop before children of an age where they neither have the life experience nor brain development for sound judgement - along the logic that you're not old enough to drink alcohol or vote but getting a sex change or doing weird sexual stuff with an adult is okay.

Nearly all of this comes from jewish influence alone. Especially the media and sexual content. What went wrong is that jews are cancer. Their behavior is cancer. Their actions cause no good outcome BUT there was nothing in place to STOP THEM and now these are the consequences. If people stop being reasonable they're acting insane. Yet here we are, acting as if there's law and society instead of it all being a farce. Guess what happens when the insane run the institutions and make the laws ? Uh oh. If anyone ever wants a functional and well-rounded civilization that aims for the right things instead of trying to hit the checkmarks for all possible wrongs not just a person's qualifications but also a person's character needs to be taken into account for what chances they're given and what roles they're restricted from. Look at most of the current politicians: Corrupt, incompetent, not serving their people, their nation. Traitors in office. Incompetent or corrupt at the very least - neither being leadership material.
There's no civil dictatorship over these leaders that can push them out of their position and even execute them, depending on the degree of their misbehavior or failures as legal and due provess. This is also why politicians don't solve any issues of society, much less before they manifest by acting ahead of time. Instead they play those.

You know what I abhor the most about modern times ? That parents completely failed to protect their children. They fed them right into this civilizatoin that's going nowhere, or at least nowhere where anyone would want to find themselves. For a person growing up it's very important to experience the power trip:
-you learn about some things
-you decide for something you like
-you master that thing
-you do something useful with it
YOU MADE IT.
This is how character is made. Obstacles to overcome. Not this talking about the other person not in the room on social media to shit on them and start hating them. All this pointing to externals instead of internally becoming better and more well rounded, forming local friendships, making positive changes around you. The human way: Learn and explore, use your skills and knowledge, improve things for the better. Almost everyone living in a city will never experience this, much less with anything they can show off or hold in their hands. Consequently most turn into consumers that wait for a product, bitch about what they don't like, get hyped for the next thing that *has to be* better etc.. That's where the soyjack memes come from. Almost a woman, on an emotional level. Childish at least. Not representing an adult, much less on in control of his life and actively shaping it. Perfect to uphold a society of passive fence sitters and opinionated social media posters though. Never does a thing, engages with what is presented but never comes up with anything genuinely unique and of his own, not even with his own words or thoughts. Everything is a reaction to external stimuli. The learning process is shaped into learning the input -> output patterns:
"The vaccine." -> "Omg get vaxxed to protect others."
Why should I get vaxxed for others ? Where's the logic in that. If the vaxx works and protects those others can get vaxxed and leave me alone. -> "Omg anti-vaxxer."
It's not even a vaccine but mRNA gene therapy that permanently alters you DNA and might cause long term damage, with you being the lab rats for it. -> "Conspiracy theorist lunatic."
Oh yeah ? Where did you get your info from ? -> "The people in the news."
Programmed people. No wrong think allowed: No questioning, no reasonable arguments can reach them, no inner thought process happening. It's just *can't be* that all of what they're told and taught from their trustworthy sources is just a test of population compliance with illegal regulations, how far they can go with their money-making schemes at the expense of the people and to which degree they can pit people against another with their trustworthy sources.

There was this horror movie, forgot the name, that mentioned life is shit because the human mind only puts a focus on everything negative instead of the positive and potential positive that still needs to be worked towards to unlock it. Thus the human mind creates a hell of its own, circling around the negatives. A cultivates human spirit that tries to overcome obstacles to march on can respect itself past that. What's been done for the past decades is cultivating problems to have views and talking points handy. It's why you can't have debates with people anymore that are truly a respectful exchange of information and views. The focus has shifted from trying to find understanding and solutions that are acceptable for both sides to maintaining the problems, flaunting egos, increasing social status by doing so. More noise, more nonsense on the daily.
Nothing was achieved - what a win. <- and that's the point that should dictate whether this even makes any waves

Another thing: You may have noticed that people keep having the wrong views and information, even after that's been corrected several times and even if there's evidence held right in front of their faces. I call this first input memory. They get an information, a concept, an idea, and if that's the first of it's kind it's the first entry point created in their mind to which all further related to it connects. Some people really seem to have trouble to drop or correct nonsense or wrong talking points. This is especially true with things they initially accepted unquestioningly. Only if they think about this and actively make their own connections from their own knowledge and realizations this can be corrected. Otherwise it remains in its unupdated form, as initially received, and they'll always pull this wrong data. So: If you don't get them to THINK about what you've said they'll just revert to factory settings. This "getting them to THINK" is best done by challenging their views so that they need to justify or explain them.
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