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Christianity is the ultimate political structure, prove me wrong: Pro-tip, you can't. 


Why? 

Historical Christianity provides a legal structure, the metaphysical justification for aristocracy, the philosophical framework for "Divine Right", stands in opposition to the arbitrariness of social moores which aren't founded in the timeless natural order (i.e. the whim of a king is not legal justification for an action). Additionally, as pointed out by philosophers of past ages, what is unique about the Western Christian faith is that it posits that through the existence of one's soul, one has value. Christianity doesn't need material explanations for political positions because it's the precise rejection of materialism (Nietschian "will to power" and utiliatarianism) which provides the justification for one's spiritual value to the community. Further, Christianity also includes the equal rejection of Communism and other reductionist economic theories which seek to diminish the value of one's soul. It is only through this lens that we may come to understand the value of Syndicalist and Distributist thought. 

Consequently, I posit that no individual who seeks the truth can come to the conclusion that Christianity as a framework is wrong. In fact, the opposite is true: the shear number of individuals shilling against this idea points to its validity.
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and here i was thinking the 3rd reich was the apex.
thanks for setting me straight
>>33497
>Christianity also includes the equal rejection of Communism 


It was likely the first attempt of it against the Roman empire by the Jews.




38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.  And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

Matthew 5:38-40

 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all  that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales  and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

Acts 4:32-35



Gangster Peter made Ananias an offer he could't refuse and wacked him?

Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.  With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet. Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?  Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened.

Acts 4:32-35
Christianity makes a bunch of niggers and old white boomers go to heaven
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>>33497
Christians don't even agree with each other over what true Chrtianity is. Wars where fought  in Europe over it and If you where a Pennsylvanian quaker evangilsing to Massachusetts puritans you would get hung. Thats why the founders never put a specified religion in the constitution . The Catholics Baptists Quackers and other sects whould never agree to that also the bloody sectarian wars in Europe where fresher in their memory.
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>>33497 (OP) 
>>>/r/
I mean, you aren't wrong in the sense that nothing in life is a standalone--It's ALL interconnected. 
...But Inseparable is not really true, is it?
Everything can be broken down into component parts, in fact MUST, in order to be discussed with any depth.

Otherwise, you may as well just be splashing schizo-Tier word salad posts all over the boards.
>the arbitrariness of social moores
>pic 1

>I posit that no individual who seeks the truth can come to the conclusion that Christianity as a framework is wrong.

Frameworks are neither right nor wrong in and of themselves. There is a subjectivity involved here.
The Bantu has his own,(albeit childish,) system of explanation of the vast incomprehensible,(to him,) world, that has served him for longer than their ancestors clicked and popped their first "Language"  Would that framework suit one with a more developed, complex and future oriented mind? Of course not.
Is Japan a strictly Christian nation?
No. 
Yet they are a technologically advanced society that until maybe 40 years ago were thriving and advancing.
>pic 2
Frameworks of any conceptual sort are akin to analogies, much like MATH is a description of the Physical world, but ONLY in an abstract way, and Analogies are not inherently "Right" or "Wrong" except in their application.
Indeed, there are those that adamantly claim to BE Christian Communists, As are there over a 1000 different flavors of Christianity, all claiming that the "Others" just have it wrong.

Why is this?
Again:
>>>/r/
>>33497

I would further add that Chrtianity as an institution only seemed to give social cohesion up until Martin Luther and the prtestant reformation. Now I'm not shilling for Catholicism this only worked because when they church wasn't destroying the native relgions of Europe they where incorporating local folklore into the church through turning Gods in to saints.    The advent  of the printingpress and people translating the Bible into their native languages likely was a factor leading to the protestant reformation. The church maintained a dogmatic narrative control when the Bible was only in latin only an educated priest class could read it a commoner could not especially with the low rates of literacy. This is how the church maintained power and control through a priestly educated class. the same could be done with any religion for example Islam this sort of control is nothing special. But with the creation of Gutenberg's printing press and translations of the Bible into native languages you could get wildly different interpretations of scripture which led to sectarian division of the post protestant reformation. That's why today you have sects of chrtianity like this that dance with snakes

Snake Handling Squire West Virginia

https://youtu.be/HEn-73Bu7ic


because this is how they interpret verses like this


they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

Mark 16:18


And who's to say they are wrong in this interpretation?
>>33497

also OP why didn't you post this here?
>>>>/r/
>>33528
OP is the same anon who created the 'Christ is King' thread, while simultaneously making D&C Pagan posts in other threads. These posts always come at the same time, because they're by the same team.

Kikes, jeets, and glowniggers realized the /pol/ strategy failed horribly, so they've moved onto religion. They tried spamming CP last night after getting called out on many threads. It's going to fail too, and they're out of ideas.
>>33534
Fed well poisoning detected.
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>>33534
I have noticed that OP has not responded to any of the points brought up which all seem valid critiques. Its almost as if they don't want to discuss their thesis if it could be called that. Very slide thread like.
>>33527

>>only gave 1500 years of social cohesion 

>>only 1500 years

>>a trifling affair 

The Roman Republic only lasted roughly 600 years. The roman imperial regime only lasted another 400. From 600 AD to 1500 AD, Christianity *was* the political system of Europe. From 100-600AD, Christian courts were considered superior to Roman ones, and obviously after 325AD, the emperor of Rome was the "pontificus maximus" i.e. head of the church.
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>>33548
Notice this anon immediately leapt to accusing everyone of being feds, exactly like the OP of the 'Christ is King' thread as well.
>>33550
Are you in favor of the Catholic church ? What's your thoughts on Martin Luther and the aftermath of the protestant reformation?  Also I would argue the church just imposed itself on the already exitsting system or Roman imperial ceasers and the Roman system it assimilated it. Also some of the legal stuff was assimilated from Germanic and Saxxon concepts of justice in development of English common law. The Roman Catholic church much like the Borg was good at assimilating ideas and spiritual concepts from pre christian society's.
>>33551
yeah that's sus how long before they start accusing their critics of being kikes? I'm surprised they haven't yet maybe they won't now that I brought up that tactic.
>>33513
>>Indeed, there are those that adamantly claim to BE Christian Communists, As are there over a 1000 different flavors of Christianity, all claiming that the "Others" just have it wrong

Well, I think we just have to accept that to a certain degree, dogmatic and interpretation differences exist between different groups of people. It's not *really* as big of an issue as people make it out to be, if church communities operated as more of a confederacy of groups which "get along together" or "generally agree". At present, no such confederacy of church communities can exist because many of the main Protestant branches claim sole authority over biblical interpretation, and it's difficult to disagree about the historical legitimacy of either the Catholic or Orthodox faith coalitions. 

That said, what one believes as true, which in this instance would be ones understanding of aristocracy, kingship, divine right, law, etc. deeply informs their understanding of political legitimacy. For example, the Hindus of India believe that it is okay to economically disadvantage hundreds of millions of their own people simply due to their Brahmanic social class status. Meanwhile, the Muslims of Arabia largely agree that slavery is permissible based on traditional Quranic understandings. Similarly, no mention of human rights exists in an Islamic context because humans do not matter, only one's submission to God does. Discussions of free trade and economic considerations are superfluous in China when only the emperor's regime matters which the confucian and Daoist clergy are sworn to protect at all costs.
>>33551
Unlikely, the only fed's I've seen are the ESL, spammer, and the guy defending them. All of which were pushing anti-Christian stuff.
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>>33556
>It's not *really* as big of an issue as people make it out to be, 


Why the Thirty Years' War Was So Devastating - European Wars of Religion

https://youtu.be/QKUBpUSn-Kw
 >>33498
The 3rd Reich was heavily influenced by Christianity.
Hitler himself tolerated no criticism of Christianity.
>>33557
Why would feds be anti Christian?


Today, Attorney General Pamela Bondi hosted members of the President’s Cabinet at the U.S. Department of Justice for the inaugural meeting of the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias in the federal government. The Task Force, which was established by President Trump under Executive Order 14202

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-hosts-first-task-force-meeting-eradicate-anti-christian-bias
>>33501
>It was likely the first attempt of it against the Roman empire by the Jews.
Jews didn't even exist back than.
Their vile Talmud had yet to be invented.
>>33557
All three are working in tandem. The Christ is King anon is one of them, simply pushing D&C from the kosher Christian Nationalist side. Remember, he was completely unable to denounce the Talmud, Israel, mention their illegal nuclear arms program, or affirm the Protocols of Zion.

Mormons, being the lap-dogs of child-raping and baby blood drinking jews, do this sort of work too when taking up federal jobs and cannot make such statements.
>>33561
Because the goverment defines Christiniaty as "loving Israel and feedom".
>>33559
> Citing heebtube
LOL!
>>33563
He ended up saying it later.

>>33564
Much of what people confuse for Christianity, is defacto Churchianity or Zio-heresy.
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>>33560
Interesting any explination as too why they tolerated runic symbolism as well for example the SS symbol being the sig rune or the swastica being symbol in pre christian German relgions. Or this being the symbol of the very occul orientated Thule society . This symbol is allegedly illegal to display in Germany today.
>>33560
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
>>33565
That Dosent make the content any less valid . Do you deny the 30 year war happened and that it had anything to do with Chiristian sectarianism?
>>33562
That's stupid. Jews had to have existed before the talmud because if they didn't nobody would have written that vile trash down.
>>33568
>He ended up saying it later.
Did he? I thought it was the Romanian or other anon that I mistook as the OP at first. I never could find the OP repeating it, especially after the thread got moved to /r/ breaking the reply link chains.

The timing of the spammer, the roaming rabbi (the one we debate), and this kosher nationalist always crop up at the same time. I do think they're correlated.
>Much of what people confuse for Christianity, is defacto Churchianity or Zio-heresy.
Just call Judeo-Christians "Noahide Slaves." It's more accurate to consider them a sub-sect of Judaism, besides.
>>33569
> having symbols associated with pre-Christian German culture somehow means they rejected Christianity
Okay, kike.
>>33570
> Kikepedia
Holy shit, this thread jewish.
First Heebtube and now kikepedia.
>>33574
>Okay, kike

first time called a like in this thread 


called it here>>33555
You cited nothing valid.
You presented a link to a known jew propaganda outlet.
Lazy kike.
>>33576
> Kike doesn't like it when he is called out
An absolute kike classic.
>>33577

when you can't argue call your opponent a kike how pipulish

called it here>>33574
>>33581
> NAW PLEASE STOP NOTICING PATTERNS.
No.
And, also, you linked a Heebtube propangda video as a way of backing your "argument".
You are an intellectually lazy kike.
>>33578
I denounce the Torah the Tenach the Talmud. I denounce the child killer and dick mutilator Abraham.

your turn faggot bet your to chicken shit to do it.
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>>33560
Goebbels says you're wrong. I trust him more than you.
>>33585
I denounce the Talmud, the only doctrine unholy book the kikes had ever authored. 
Hell Christ! 
You seething kike! :) 
> BUT WE WUZZ CHRIST
Nope, you are a seething mongrel with an identity crisis.
>>33586
> Goebells diary 
Which one?
The "Goebells diary" that is often cited by jews like you came out of Russia, after the USSR collapse, they claimed to have "founded" it. 
It has no value whatsoever.
>>33584

Ok since you have no ability to argue in good faith and call all those who have crtisims against you a kike then I'm taking off the kid gloves.

Why are you why are you worshiping a kike rabbi?



Peter said to Jesus, ((( “Rabbi, ))) it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Mark 9:5
>>33587

So your to chicken shit to denounce the Jewish Torah huh? You must love them kike stories pussy.
>>33589
> WE WUZZ CHRIST 
LOL, called it. 

>worshiping a kike 
You kikes didn't exist at the time.
Your talmudic cult arose much later.
You have no genetic, cultural or even theological connection to Christ. 
> rabbi
He was indeed a teacher. 

Your argument is one of PURE eemajtuc
>>33594
>PURE eemajtuc
Pure semantics*
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>>33594
I suggest you take Jesus's advice .
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>>33588
Okay, if that's not good enough for you, how about this book printed by The 3rd Reich themselves?
>>33593
The Talmud is the only unholy book you kikes ever invented.
I will not entertain your absurd claims to the Bible.
The Bible was authored by the Greeks within Alexandria (a Greek colony at the time) and codified by the Greeks during the council of Nikea.
>>33596
He quoted a verse calling Jesus Lord. Rabbi wasn't even used at the time and the gospels were written in Greek and Aramaic. It is only with the advent of the Judeo-zionist heresy that the bible was mistranslated in that way.

Mark 10:51
“And Jesus answered and said unto him, What wilt thou that I should do unto thee? The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight.”

This is more accurate, even unto the word roots.

>>33596
You got refuted over here:
>https://ourchan.org/r/thread/23.html
>>33598
>The Bible was authored by the Greeks within Alexandria 


Yeah that's a theory that Alexandrian Jews made the whole shit up my stealing Greek pagan mythology are you willingly admiring that?
>>33597
Hitler and the party's position on Christianity are well known through their actions and his speeches.
Cope some more.
>>33599
refute me here bro that's over there where here in this thread.
>>33600
>Alexandrian Jews 
Again, no such thing.
You kikes did not even exist at the time. :)
It was authored by the GREEKS.
In a GREEK colony!
And using the GREEK language.
Just stop WeWuzzing, heeb.
All you have is semantic distortion.
You offer NOTHING of substance.
Your propaganda is equally weak as it relies solely on repeating the same claim over and over again and hoping it sticks.
Frequency propganda is ineffective.
>>33597
“My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.”
Source: Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 11 (1925), translated by Ralph Manheim, 1943.
“We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity. Our movement is Christian.”
Source: Speech in Passau, October 27, 1928, documented in Völkischer Beobachter, October 29, 1928.
“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
Source: Speech to the Reichstag, January 30, 1939, recorded in Max Domarus, The Complete Hitler: His Speeches and Proclamations, 1990.
“The national Government sees in both Christian denominations the most important factor for the maintenance of our society.”
Source: Speech before the Reichstag, March 23, 1933, published in Norman H. Baynes, The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1942.
“We must bring Christianity to the fore again, but the fighting Christianity.”
Source: Speech in Berlin, April 6, 1923, cited in John Toland, Adolf Hitler, 1976.
“The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church.”
Source: Letter to the Nazi Party, July 22, 1933, quoted in Ernst Christian Helmreich, The German Churches Under Hitler, 1979.
“It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.”
Source: Speech on February 24, 1933, documented in William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, 1960.
“The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.”
Source: Speech in Stuttgart, February 15, 1933, documented in Norman H. Baynes, The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1942.
“I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator.”
Source: Speech at the Reichsparteitag, Nuremberg, September 6, 1938, recorded in Max Domarus, The Complete Hitler: His Speeches and Proclamations, 1990.
“The German people are not a people of the book, but a people of the Christian faith.”
Source: Speech in Munich, April 12, 1922, cited in John Toland, Adolf Hitler, 1976.
“We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls.”
Source: Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933, published in Völkischer Beobachter, October 26, 1933.
“The Christian religion is the only one that can claim to have God’s blessing in the struggle for existence.”
Source: Speech in Passau, November 2, 1928, documented in Ernst Boepple, Adolf Hitler’s Reden, 1933.
“Our movement is not against Christianity, but for Christianity.”
Source: Speech in Cologne, March 21, 1933, quoted in Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich, 2003.
“The National Socialist movement will always let its conduct be determined by the commandments of Christianity.”
Source: Speech in Coburg, October 19, 1932, cited in William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, 1960.
“The National Socialist movement has not only recognized the value of the Christian faith but is also ready to do everything to protect it. The National Socialist state will not permit any attack on the Christian religion or its churches.”
Source: Speech in Munich, February 24, 1934, documented in Norman H. Baynes, The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1942.
“As long as I am the leader of the German people, I will regard it as my duty to preserve the Christian character of our nation and to protect the churches as the bearers of this Christianity.”
Source: Speech in Berlin, January 30, 1934, recorded in Max Domarus, The Complete Hitler: His Speeches and Proclamations, 1990.
“The National Socialist state, being a Christian state, will naturally give Christianity its due place in the life of the nation. It will ensure that the Christian churches can carry out their mission without hindrance.”
Source: Speech in Leipzig, March 16, 1935, cited in Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich, 2003.
“Christianity is the basis of our morality, and we will not allow it to be undermined. The National Socialist movement stands firmly on the ground of a positive Christianity and will fight for its preservation.”
Source: Speech in Nuremberg, September 11, 1935, published in Völkischer Beobachter, September 13, 1935.
“In this hour, I pray to the Almighty that He may bless our work and our struggle, which is not directed against Christianity but seeks to renew it in the hearts of our people.”
Source: Speech in Hamburg, August 17, 1934, quoted in John Toland, Adolf Hitler, 1976.
“We stand for a positive Christianity, and we believe that the Christian churches must be supported in their work for the moral and spiritual welfare of the German people.”
Source: Speech in Dresden, June 25, 1937, documented in Ernst Christian Helmreich, The German Churches Under Hitler, 1979.

There's also the incident where he told his secretary to stop believing all the silly pagan nonsense and that he was christian.
>>33497
Oh not shit shit again.
GET THE FUCK OFF OF /POL/ YOU FUCKING CUNTS
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>>33601

Hitler call Abraham a pimp in his "why we are anti semities speech" also he invokes the image of the fenris wolf in anouther speach which has to do with  the Norse Germanic gods. Maybe he was a closet heathen admirer promoting being a Chritian in order to keep the movement appealing to the public who was Christian.
>>33604
Dude there where tons of pre christian Romans and Greeks talking about the Jews or Yohodi . Nigger your fucking retarted . this is why they gave you retards a containment board yet you still choose to spam /pol/
>>33609
Wether Hitler was himself a Christian or not is irrelevant, he was most likely a pragmatic moral utilitarian.
Point is, Hitler made no effort to oppose Christianity and infact promoted it.
If Hitler did genuinely regard Christianity as a bad influence, he would have had no fucking problem whatsoever shutting churches down.
>>33609
Fuck you you fucking piece of shit.
You're doing this constantly.
Stay the fuck off of /pol/
You wanna talk about how politics and religion are inseparable? Do it on the religion board you fucking faggot.
>>33609
So what. Tolkien cribbed from every white mythology and he was devoutly catholic.
>>33610
>Dude there where tons of pre christian Romans and Greeks talking about the Jews or Yohodi
Show me a primary and contempary where they do. 
Note how I said PRIMARY and CONTEMPARY!
I will wait.
>>33559
Where in the bible does it say that one should accept a Pope, or have bishops? It doesn't, this is an organizational structure that mimics the idea of a King/court from bygone ages. Even in the Didache (a book concerning the structuring of the church), there doesn't exist a mention of Bishops apart from a formal title. As far as I'm concerned, these cultural relics may work for certain groups, but why must they be accepted as legitimate by all who have faith in Christ? 

Also, why does everyone assume that just because x,y,z happened in the past, Christians must continue to make the same folly? Nonsense.
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>>33605
Obviously Hitler wasn't an idiot, so he isn't going to alienate the largest religion in Germany. Pagan revivalism reached its height under Hitler aided by the NSDAP.
>>33613
he actually Doesn't want to talk about it constructively which is sad I wouldn't mind an actual discussion but not when they call you kike for every valid counter point or criticism of their thoughts
>>33618
Good question maybe you should ask that to a Catholic which I'm not even though I was baptized as one.
>>33619
You are literally citing WWII era anti German, jewish propaganda.
This is pathetic!
>>33616
Tolkien also went out of his way to felate the jews when the Nazis sent him a letter asking about his heritage.
https://www.cultureslate.com/explained/tolkiens-clapback-to-nazi-germany
All I am saying is that actions do not exist in a vacuum. People aren't naturally "good" and by replacing Christianity with a make-believe belief structure (Marvel movie tier paganism, wicca, etc.) everything good becomes bad and vice versa at the capricious will of whoever's strongest. I'm sorry, but as lost as many Christians are, as dogmatically confused as they can be, at least the structure and moral foundations exist from which one may justify an "American Empire" or King/aristocracy.
>>33618
Because the Bible sets out apostolic succession and tradition, that is the context by which it is understood, has had apostolic succession and bishops for 1500 years before the prots came on the scene. 

>Also, why does everyone assume that just because x,y,z happened in the past, Christians must continue to make the same folly? Nonsense.
That's the basic argument for faggotry.

>>33620
You do nothing but spam lies and are responsible for all the divisonfagging on /r/.  And you say that you want to talk about it constructively?

>>33623
Tolkien lived in England that was constantly propagandized about Germany. Also, he was of polish decent.
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>>33622
So jews throwing a fit about Paganism rising in Germany is proof that Paganism wasn't rising in Germany?
Y'know for a devout christian, Hitler said some awfully mean things about father Abraham.
>>33617
Why would I do that when you will just call me a kike anyway? Speaking of kikes how does it feel to worship one?



>“What do you want me to do for you?” Jesus asked him. The blind man said, ((“Rabbi,)) I want to see.”

Mark 10:51
>>33626
Nope, jews were kevetching about the NS party in Germany and desperately trying to associate the NS party with anti Christianity in an attempt to discredit it, just like you are doing now, KIKE!
>>33626
He quoted a verse calling Jesus Lord. Rabbi wasn't even used at the time and the gospels were written in Greek and Aramaic. It is only with the advent of the Judeo-zionist heresy that the Bible was mistranslated in that way.

Mark 10:51
“And Jesus answered and said unto him, What wilt thou that I should do unto thee? The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight.”

This is more accurate, even unto the word roots.

You've been answered 4 times already on this.
>>33628
So your admiting Chrtianity is so weak as a truth the kikes can rewrite your scripture? That's a pretty pathetic.
>>33631
What...
I am done here.
Go back to 4chan, kike.
>>33635
So you not going to post this slop anymore?  Or you feel the need to call me a kike a few more times. Very pipul of you. Are you by chance a Jew in sprit.


But he is a ((( Jew, which is one inwardly ))) and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 Romans 2:29
>>33625
Prior to the 11th century, the pope was just a patriarch- one of many. I don't have to accept the apostolic legitimacy of the papacy, even if one accepted the legitimacy of the apostolic doctrine. Further, apostolic doctrine may be a tradition of the church, but it's certainly absent from the bible. The earliest mention of apostolic succession seems to derive from Ignatius of Antioch, whom merely uses the word "episkopos" or "watcher/guardian" which is then later translated into "bishop" as an honorific title.
>>33628
So the jews were telling christians to attack germany because... They were too christian?
So the 3rd Reich didn't publish the book that I posted here >>33597
?
>>33629
'Rabbi' and 'Lord' being interchangeable in aramaic proves what?
>>33575
your point is invalid. 
do you not have your own copy of table talk?
>>33628
I choose to ignore the clearly Jewish/kike/pagan posters.
>>33643
It says it here in the Greek even got a Bible hub source link. but can't wait to here the copes





Strong's Lexicon
rhabbi: Rabbi
Original Word: ῥαββί
Part of Speech: Hebrew Form (Indeclinable)
Transliteration: rhabbi
Pronunciation: hrab-BEE
Phonetic Spelling: (hrab-bee')
Definition: Rabbi
Meaning: Rabbi, my master, teacher; a title of respect often applied to Christ.

Word Origin: Derived from Hebrew רַבִּי (rabbi), meaning "my master" or "my teacher."

Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - H7227: רַב (rav) - meaning "great" or "chief."

- H7229: רַבִּי (rabbi) - meaning "my master" or "my teacher."

Usage: In the New Testament, "rhabbi" is used as a title of respect and honor, primarily directed towards teachers and leaders in Jewish society. It signifies a person who is recognized for their authority in teaching the Scriptures and guiding others in spiritual matters. In the Gospels, it is often used to address Jesus, acknowledging His role as a teacher and spiritual leader.



https://biblehub.com/greek/4461.htm
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THANK YOU MODS!
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>>907 (OP) 
Also just post here next time OP. Its eventually going to get moved here anyway. You got a whole board you should be happy.
>>989
Mods are Gods, as usual. A full raiding and emptying of Walmart's freezer sections -- all of them, for Hot Pockets (Garlic and Herb crusted, plus Cheesy Sausage & Pepper Onion filling) MUST and WILL prevail this eve.
Thank you mods.
/r/ is doing this daily.
Post a picture and a topic that says politcs = religion, then proceeds to have a whole thread only about religion.
Fucking faggots.
>>988
before this got moved was going to post this as well but I'm sure a source like Bible hub is wrong because of muh Scofield or some other excuse.

Likely op fled.Darn I was really hoping to get called kike several more times for posting legitimate arguments and sources.



>Cultural and Historical Background: The term "rabbi" originated in Jewish culture as a title for those who were learned in the Torah and capable of teaching it to others. During the time of Jesus, rabbis were respected figures within the Jewish community, often leading synagogues and providing spiritual guidance. The use of "rhabbi" in the New Testament reflects the Jewish context of the early Christian movement and highlights the recognition of Jesus as a teacher with authority.


https://biblehub.com/greek/4461.htm
>>993
>Likely op fled
Now watch the thread die. Not sure if D&C or if some christians really think they are going to win some converts by posting on /pol/.
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>>993
The usage of the word "rabbi" is immaterial. So what? 

The issue which your very limited brain is having trouble comprehending is that a) the meaning of words change over time and b) the ancient Israelites were viewed as "mystical ancients" by the Greeks in the same way that Egyptians or Hindus are viewed by wignats as "mystical ancients". The word rabbi in Greek is a functional equivalent to "learned master", it has nothing to do with the modern rabbinical religious connotation and is merely a direct translation into Greek of the Aramaic honorific "rav". Jesus spoke Aramaic, not Greek or Hebrew as the language was dead by the 1st century, so your references to Hebrew just make you sound retarded/ignorant.
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>>994
>>994
>Now watch the thread die. Not sure if D&C or if some christians really think they are going to win some converts by posting on /pol/.
Remember that a lot of bots are trained for /pol/ from 4chan. They are not trained on /r/, since it doesn't exist elsewhere. I think this could be one reason why they suddenly fall off the face of the Earth every time it gets shuttled to /r/.
>>993
The third problem you retarded wignats have is that you confuse Israelites, the Hebrews and the Aramaic speaking people of the Levant referred to by Romans as Judeans. To clarify this point, the Hebrews are the ancient ancestors of the Israelites, the Israelites were a confederacy of 12 tribal kingdoms (some of which still exist today, see the Samaritans) and the Judeans who are a mixture of tribal groups who lived in the region of Judea. For example, the Mandeans spoke Mandean, are Persian/semitic, but lived in Judea and would have therefore been referred to by the Romans as "Judeans" a word which is later translated to "jew". 

I hope this clarifies your confusion.c
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>>996
>Israelites were viewed as "mystical ancients" by the Greeks


Bullshit they where seen as barbarians Antiochus Epiphanes slew a pig in their temple to Zeus because they where kvetching about hellinzation, The Jews even forced circumscion on other Jews who where hellenizing . Ever heard of a guy called JUDAS Macbee? Probably not in your addled brain where ancient herbs where white European folk


here read up on it.

>n the time between the return of Jewish exiles and the rise of the Roman emperors, the land of Judea was caught between two ruling powers: the Seleucid Kingdom of Syria in the north and Ptolemaic Egypt in the south. These kingdoms, both successors of Alexander the Great’s broken empire, warred with each other for more than a century while the Jewish nation sat at the crossroads. (An account of these relations, seen through the lens of prophetic visions, can be found in Daniel 11.

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-israel/antiochus-epiphanes-the-bibles-most-notoriously-forgotten-villain/
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>>993
Another final point, the Talmud was originally written in Aramaic as the usage of Hebrew was obsolete/out of favor by the time of its ccreation.That said, rabbinical Jews i.e. modern Jews, are a group which claims to be the descendents of the Israelites, but are actually European/Turkik in origins. Modern day Samaritans have radically different genetics than either the Saphardic Jews or the Ashkenazi.
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>>1003
Again, you are conflating the Judeans with Israelites. How can one individual be so ridiculously retarded even though I spent so much time explaining the differences of these groups? You are literally too dumb to argue with.
>>1002
I really don't care which specific dessert dwelling tribe Jesus belonged to.
I love my family and my people, I hate my enemies, I oppose evil people, and if a man strike me on my right cheek he's getting a broken nose.
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>>1004

I don't give a fuck about what you call these sandnigger Jews or Isrealities pre Chrisitan Europeans never did this sort of barbaric sand nigger shit



 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come.  This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.  You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.  For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring.  Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. ((( My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. )))  Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”

 Gensis 17:9
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>>1007
You do realize that the Vikings/Celts often had human sacrifices? To the Christian Romans, you were the barbarians lol.
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>>1007
Pagans drank horse blood and cum.
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>>1011

To the Polytheistic Greeks and Romans Isrellitie Judeans  where barbarians. Whats your point are you defending this?



>All the men who went out of the city gate agreed with Hamor and his son Shechem, and every male in the city was circumcised. Three days later, while all of them were still in pain, two of Jacob’s sons, Simeon and Levi, Dinah’s brothers, took their swords and attacked the unsuspecting city, killing every male.

Genesis 34:24


BTW hammor and Shechem sound pretty Jewish to me wonder what their early life says
>>1015

ancient Jews did weird forskins rituals



>At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses and was about to kill him.  But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it. “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said.  So the Lord let him alone. (At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.)

exodus 4:24
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>>1011
>judaized Europeans disliked the non-judaized Europeans
Your point?
>>1015
1) Which Pagans?
2) According to who?
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>>1003
Those are the maccabeans, not the Hebrews or even the Israelites. Judas is just a name. Iscariot which is where the name got it's notoriety came centuries later.

>>1004
The oldest Old Testament we have is in Greek.

>>1017
>>1016
Circumcision was covered here:
https://ourchan.org/r/thread/152.html

Why do you keep spamming shit that's been refuted?

>>1019
That's mostly Slavs and Balts. With the Norse, Odin & Thor were both crossdressers and Odin sucked off dead men. I don't even need to get into the Greeks. 

>Source?
According the the very records of those groups.
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>Odin & Thor were both crossdressers and Odin sucked off dead men.
I see you willfully believe jewish lies about our ancestors.
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>>1030
Yet somehow jewish claims about Christians are perfectly fine to use. You use nothing but, even the version of the Bible the spammer is quoting from is the judo-zionist and traslated from the masoretic.

Inb4... They're the same.

You still haven't refuted the Greeks, the crossdressing and the Slav/Balt practices. Now let's add the cybellines, druidic human sacrifice, aztec homosexuality & blood sacrifice, chinese cannibalism, witchcraft, and so on.
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>>1030
Good to know.
Seems like standard jewish practice. The question is... why do you do the same on Christianity.
>>1023
>not the Hebrews or even the Israelites
Who the fuck are the Isrealities to you then do you just make up some larp history and expect everyone to believe it. No wonder you shill your kooky flavor of Chrtianity on image boards no mainline denomination would buy this horshit. This is the flat earth of christian belief. Your not a flat earthers too? I actually wouldn't be surprised at this point.
>>1042
>Yet somehow jewish claims about Christians are perfectly fine to use.
When did I do that?
>You still haven't refuted the Greeks
I assume you are talking about the jewish lie that they were flaming faggots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAT4ybsz_E
>the crossdressing
Have you read the myth that comes from? I'll tell you the shortest version I can.
Thor is screwing around drunk in the woods, gets tired and goes home accidentally leaving behind his magic hammer, Mjolnir. In the morning he panics because he can't find it. Thor manages to track it down to an ice giant who found it. When he asks for his hammer back the giant says he'll trade it in exchange for marrying Thor's sister Freyja. Thor goes to Freyja and asks her to marry the ice giant so he can get his hammer back, she declines. Thor goes to his father Odin and asks for help, Odin essentially tells Thor "You made the problem, you fix it." Thor asks his brother Loki for help who then comes up with the idea to put Thor in a dress and have him impersonate Freyja to fool the giant. Thor doesn't like the idea but goes through with it. The giant falls for the disguise because he is almost completely blind. As soon as Thor gets his hammer back, he cracks the giant on the head and runs away.
Moral of the story: You can be the literal god of war but being dumb will get you into humiliating situations.
>the Slav/Balt practices
Admittedly I don't know anything about Slavid or Baltic paganism. Post the source so I can point out that it's another lie by a homosexual jew.
>Now let's add the cybellines
Another masochistic cult that came from the east just like Christianity. Castrated themselves in dedication to Cybele, an anatolian goddess. Funnily enough, early christians did similarly.
>Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb; and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men; and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
Jesus doesn't seem to have much issue with it either.
>druidic human sacrifice
Based.
>aztec homosexuality and blood sacrifice
I'm not aztec, I can't speak for them.
>chinese cannibalism
I'm not chinese, I can't speak for them.
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>>1064
Apollo, Adonis, Dionysus, Ganymede

In order to do magic, Odin crossdressed

>casteration
https://ourchan.org/r/thread/23.html
TL;DR Christ did not say cut off your balls. Only gnostics did that.

>Human sacrifice... based
Thanks for being honest.
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>>1067
>Apollo
Jewish lie. Never did anything gay.
>Adonis
Literally married The Goddess Aphrodite.
>Dionysus
Literal god of degenerates. It's like saying that christianity is evil because satan does evil things.
>Ganymede
Plato says that the love between Zeus and Ganymede was strictly platonic.
>In order to do magic, Odin crossdressed
Jewish lie.
>TL;DR Christ did not say cut off your balls. Only gnostics did that.
Yes he did, I posted an exact quote from the King James Bible.
>Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb; and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men; and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
>>1064
Cybele was worshipped by the Greeks and Romans and was a Galli(Gaulic) cult in orgin. Anatolia was white before the Turks and Muslims.
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>>1070
The term 'Galli' refers to the priests who served her. Cybele was from Phrygia, not Gaul.
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>>1072
Oh and Hermaphroditus.

>Jewish Lies
Evidence?

>Dionisius.
And he was widely worshipped and considered one of the big 12. No Christian worships satan.

>Ganymede
Even as early as Plato's time there was disagreement over that. The consensus by 5th century BC was he was a catamite.

>Casteration
You obviously did not read the thread. Christ was using parallel imagery.

>Some were born sterile.
>Some made sterile by others
>Some choose to be virgins, that is celibate.

>>1071
Yes and Anatolia was white. Those were white, pagan religions. Look up gaulish and greek settlement in the region. Phrygia is right next to Galatia and is closer to europe. Phrygians were held to be from the balkans by Herodotus and other Greeks.
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>>1016
Yes, but going back to the conversation at hand, the early Christians were not seen as Barbarians as they were predominantly Greek. Additionally, early Christians did not all agree to use the NT, there was a lot of debate on whether or not the OT was applicable to Christianity. Ultimately, the OT ONLY remained part of the Christian "cannon" for historical reasons and symbolism, not because this is some sort of central premise of the faith. The OT is not part of the central Christian dogma.
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>>1016
The Persian Christians discarded the OT entirely and adopted Persian/Zurvanite mythos detailed by remaining Manichaean Genesis stories. Additionally, some Greek groups around Alexandria decided to incorporate the orphic and Egyptian myths instead of the OT (Simonians). Either way, these proto-Orthodox Christian faith groups eventually were simply outpaced/replaced by Pauline Christianity.
>>1016
Now, as far as I'm concerned, as long as someone follows the tenets roughly outlined by the Didache, reads the four primary NT Gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke and John), the rest of the Pauline Gospels are entirely optional. Additionally, let's be honest, the OT is kind of gay compared to other mythos which could be used instead.
>>1016
And Dinah the daughter of Leah, which she bare unto Jacob, went out to see the daughters of the land. And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her.

Genesis 34

Not an Israelite. Killed after raping Jacob's daughter. Tricked into mangling themselves and then killed. 

You are just taking verses out of context again.
>>1077
Correction: meant to say that the early Christians did not all agree to use the OT, not NT. I'm a phonefag
>>1077
Those weren't Christians. They were gnostics and rightly called out for it.
thread was created by 1pbtid kikefaggot for the sole purpose of shitting up /pol/
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>>1099

>>1pbtid

Way to out yourself as a newfag. On a website which allows members to use proxies and VPNs, why *wouldn't* you?
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>>1104
the question should be is if the poster of 27 replies is OP then why *would* he change his IP? 
I've been on /pol/ since  December 2011 and /b/ several years before /pol/ existed.
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>>1075
>Oh and Hermaphroditus.
Yes, even hermaphrodites  get a patron god, proving that the Pagan gods are more merciful than yhwh.
>Apollo cried after a young boy tragically died therefore they were gay lovers
Need I say more?
>Even as early as Plato's time there was disagreement over that. The consensus by 5th century BC was he was a catamite.
And the consensus was wrong.
>You obviously did not read the thread. Christ was using parallel imagery.
I'm not going to read an entire thread of you arguing that Jesus meant something completely different from what he said in the text itself.
>and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
Even if it can be argued that Jesus was against ascetic castration (it can't), he's clearly advocating anti-natlism.
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>>1113
>No response on Odin crossdressing.
>No response on Dionisius and Cybellines.
>No response on witchcraft

>Hermaphroditus
Forcible rape by a nymph, Gods fuse the two. Ovid.
To be fair, he's also a god of marriage.

>Consensus...wrong
Consensus over time is absolutely a factor to judge things by. That's called tradition and is a major part of every religion, inc. paganism. You can't even say it was the kikes' fault, though if you can that'd be interesting to see.

>Apollo
Which boy. There's a whole bunch of them. Some certainly not platonic.

>Casteration
Do I need to copy-past the entire thread here? You have no legs over there. In fact, I suspect you're the same anon. 

>Anti-Natalism
Seriously. You're reaching at straws here. Prove it.
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>>1114
And speaking of human sacrifice, cannibalism with the rites of Zeus Lykaios mentioned by Plato.

Paganism starts with bathing in the sacred spring and ends in bathing in Bulls or even Mans blood.
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>>1111
Dynamic IPs exist. Some cell carriers already use dynamic IPs because your cell phone might jump between tower to tower where one tower is owned by one cell carrier and the other is owned by another so the tower's DHCP just automically reassigns a new IP address.
>>1114
They aren't going to respond because they don't have any real argument. Pagans are just post-modernists pretending to be traditionalists. If one believes in truth, one must ask how truth "exists", if one believes that truth "exists" one is forced to accept a universal metaphysical space which is coherent, knowable, and correspondent. Additionally, one concludes that because this metaphysical space is knowable, coherent and correspondent, that it follows rules, laws, etc. , which then leads one to ask "from whence do the laws of the Universe both physical and metaphysical arise?" The answer is: A supreme being who transcends everything, the realms of heaven, the realms of hell, and is the ultimate generator of the metaphysical space of infinite ideas. An alternative Hindu explanation being that the Universe existed prior to God and God was a generated by product of some sort of primordial forces which coalesced. I of course reject this idea as it seems illogical.
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>>1115
Since post-modernists reject the existence of objective truth, they also reject the existence of God implicitly. Pagans have no coherent philosophy regarding the nature of God. One minute, pagans are sticking dildos up their asses while performing some sort of ritual to "honor" Bacchus, the next they are smoking weed while hugging trees, the next they are pretending to be witches and Warlocks by practicing South American cartel Santaria or engaging in Masonic "wicca"/Satanism, the next they are pretending to be Marvel movie characters. To a pagan, all of this makes perfect sense. The universe is simply whatever they perceive it to be from moment to moment and second to second, consequently, to a pagan, they effectively *are* the universe. To be told otherwise simply is an affront to their pridefulness.

Additionally, even though the pagan believes himself to be a "based" and "profound" intellectual, they buy into leftist lies and post modernist narratives regarding church history, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, etc. So much for "free thinkers" who search for the truth.
>>1136
Yes. It makes them easy to refute. They tend to start contradicting themselves. The goal isn't to win the argument. The goal is to keep them from saying whatever nonsense they want.
I'm not religious and I generally don't agree with the "atheism/larpagans/anyone who isn't my religious subesction is bad" type of Christians... But I want an answer on one thing from you anons.
>the equal rejection of Communism and other reductionist economic theories which seek to diminish the value of one's soul
Considering that jews gained power via practicing usury which was against the laws set forth by christianity, was it a corruption of the religion, a weakness they exploited or what?
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>>1147
All of the above. It started with jews bribing kings on occasion and ended with jews funding protestants.
>>1147
>Considering that jews gained power via practicing usury which was against the laws set forth by christianity, was it a corruption of the religion, a weakness they exploited or what?
The short answer: yes.

The longer answer: replace usury with any other universal evil. Suppose it's murder or child rape. Just because it's banned and fosters an environment for a certain ((( species ))) to ignore ethics and morality by specializing into it, doesn't mean that's justifiable behavior. 

All major religions condemn financial slavery. Except for judaism. This allowed jews to specialize in this universal evil, like they specialized in other universal evils. A corruption on part of other religions by not immediately running a blade through the belly of every jew, does not mean that any solution besides running a blade through the belly of every last jewish man, woman, and child is the right one. 

Usury is a sin against all human beings. It's a corruption to allow it or authorize it. By forbidding it, it makes the competition much more limited if you're the only one practicing it willfully against edicts and law. The solution is to kill every practitioner of usury along with their bloodline relatives.
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>I AM CHRISTFAG HERE ME RAWR
Religion is political because all Religions are parasites of Human Belief. 

It's fine to organize under your own beliefs, pay respect to your beliefs, keep your beliefs because they will by DEFINITION keep you. The moment a Belief transitions(lol) into an isolated Religion is where all the bullshit comes into play. It's the same for all of them, just packaged differently. 
>jew
Usually
>christian
Taxes
>Muslim
Jizya 

If you need an absolute line in the sand between Belief and Religion check out Mandaeism. It's a Religion that's so pathetic compared to the Powerhouses that cause wars, but it still keeps a hopefully innocent outlook on the world
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>>1150
>Jews
Usury 
Autocorrect got it past me
>>1147
From the traditional Catholic understanding, the Jews must be kept around until they repent of their own free will and accept the true Messiah, Jesus Christ. This means that Catholics cannot harm Jews but neither should they associate with them, being in error.
These are great articles on what Catholics believe (or did prior to Vatican II) on the Catholic relation to the Jews:
https://web.archive.org/web/20051201192011/http://sspx.org/against_the_sound_bites/what_really_is_anti_semitism.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20051219122843/http://www.sspx.org/against_the_sound_bites/mystery_of_the_jews.htm
In short, Catholics *intentionally* keep and have kept the Jews around because in their minds Christ (and his bride the Catholic Church) is the truth and cannot be defeated, even by all the powers of the world. This is official dogma that no one, not even a pope speaking ex cathedra can change. 
To anyone on the outside of the Catholic Church, it looks like they protect Jews. And that's because they do. If you have siblings, it's basically the same dynamic. You may hate your brother, but you won't let strangers beat him up. That's *your* job.
As to the actual mechanism to their domination, blame Scholasticism and St. Thomas Aquinas for that. It's sinful to *be* a usurer, but *not* to *use* an usurer:
>I answer that, It is by no means lawful to induce a man to sin, yet it is lawful to make use of another's sin for a good end, since even God uses all sin for some good, since He draws some good from every evil as stated in the Enchiridion (xi). Hence when Publicola asked whether it were lawful to make use of an oath taken by a man swearing by false gods (which is a manifest sin, for he gives Divine honor to them) Augustine (Ep. xlvii) answered that he who uses, not for a bad but for a good purpose, the oath of a man that swears by false gods, is a party, not to his sin of swearing by demons, but to his good compact whereby he kept his word. If however he were to induce him to swear by false gods, he would sin.
>Accordingly we must also answer to the question in point that it is by no means lawful to induce a man to lend under a condition of usury: yet it is lawful to borrow for usury from a man who is ready to do so and is a usurer by profession; provided the borrower have a good end in view, such as the relief of his own or another's need. Thus too it is lawful for a man who has fallen among thieves to point out his property to them (which they sin in taking) in order to save his life, after the example of the ten men who said to Ismahel (Jeremiah 41:8): "Kill us not: for we have stores in the field."
To anyone outside the Catholic Church, it looks like they intentionally prevented Catholics from gaining the advantage over others that being a lender provides while explicitly permitting them to become debtors to non-Catholics.
I'm not so certain this was intentional or a conspiracy, but the intent doesn't matter. It was suicidal.
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>>1149
>The solution is to kill every practitioner of usury along with their bloodline relatives.
>>1152
>I'm not so certain this was intentional or a conspiracy, but the intent doesn't matter. It was suicidal.
Yes, this was what I was getting at. Corruption I meant that the religion was a political tool of control, but not by the pope but by the jews. Otherwise a simple wish to do well that was exploited by the weakest link in the chain until it became common place and brought down the whole land.

Considering that (afaik) Jesus said anyone can talk to god, the whole organised church/papacy is probably a scam but that's probably best left for another thread. This thread claims that the papacy is "the best political structure" unless I've misunderstood, which by the second post I mention, it's clearly a racially suicidal one.
To anyone outside the Catholic Church, it looks like they intentionally prevented Catholics from gaining the advantage over others that being a lender provides while explicitly permitting them to become debtors to non-Catholics.
I'm not so certain this was intentional or a conspiracy, but the intent doesn't matter. It was suicidal.
>It was suicidal.
Very much so. It's the 'if you kill your enemies, they win.' meme come to life, for theists.
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>>1155
This is a misnomer. Christians had their own lending institutions, but the lending was structured such as one wasn't giving money out to retards for frivolous things (war) and, secondly, only loaning money to people who could cover the collateral. Christians sought out Jews because Jewish banks because a) they would loan money to complete retards (kind of like today's student loan racket) and b) didn't care if the lender was good for their money. 

Eventually, Catholic lending institutions were simply scuttled as the Jewish owned banks gained precedence over European merchantile trade.
>>907 (OP) 
Bump for discussion. There are a lot of so-called "Conservatives" on this board who aren't functionally grounded in their understanding of where morality originates, what makes a government "righteous", what makes society wholesome, etc.
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