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How do you feel about the Return To The Land project that has been getting some media attention recently? They pooled money to buy a 160 acre piece of land in rural Arkansas and are only selling the land to White people to create families and to fulfill the 14 words. What do you think of this project and other similar "intentional communities" like Orania in South Africa?
https://archive.ph/xSjVQ
Now is the exact perfect time to buy in or establish ties. The publicity rush of attention gives you the safety of a crowd, and so far as we know the project is openly legal. This is actually the future of our tribe if we can establish the legal precedent for it. Here's hoping the founders don't behave so absolutely provocatively that the public turns against such a fairhanded and voluntary concept.
>>48609
They were shortsighted and stupid to amplify it. Xitter is now totally gotten on board last I checked, and that's a recruiting pool of millions. If it's a stable concept and sticks to the non-aggression principles you're talking about, we'll have a win exactly like the mormons did.
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Bamp, time to join up and meet your people lads
https://returntotheland.org/
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I'd support them in their legal fight, but let's be real...
They shortsightedly amplified their message without making sure they were secure in both personal dirt, and legal standing.
IDGAF if Eric got money for fucking his wife on cams, but that's exactly the kind of chinks in the armor that the kikes are looking for.
you'd be a fool to throw yourself in on this--OTHER THAN SUPPORTING THEM LEGALLY-- since they banged pots and pans enough to become a TARGET for the kikes. Not to mention, the coverage of this is going to unwind into a witchhunt for the communities who DIDN'T advertise their cause just for this reason
There are other chinks in the armor with this whole thing as well, but I WON'T post them here, as I'll NEVER disparage, and in fact WILL Encourage, Whites to do this exact same thing.
Just not with enough retarded HUBRIS to think that this ZOG government won't try to grind them out into dust with stacked ((( Justice systems ))) groups like BLM to come and harass, et al.

When/IF the KIKES can't WIN here, they will resort to dirty Mossad tricks. 
I also think that the Ex-Wife looks pretty fucking AshCanNazi, and the fact she's ALLOWED on the land with a new BF or whatever, and was even IN the newscasts about it is another liability.
She may in fact be White...but they just seem to be throwing shoes into their own machinery, knowing full well how ANTI-White and Fucked the ZOG system is ATM.
>>48628
>They shortsightedly amplified their message without making sure they were secure in both personal dirt, and legal standing.
>IDGAF if Eric got money for fucking his wife on cams, but that's exactly the kind of chinks in the armor that the kikes are looking for.
I disagree. This is a level of purity spiraling that can never be shored up against. The Judenpresse will simply invent a lie if they cannot find one, and they will always make a mountain out of an anthill when it comes to moral standards despite openly tolerating things such as a senile president that molested his own daughter / sniffed kids on live television / had a crack-smoking son who was sleeping with his niece when not banging prostitutes. Outside of truly horrible crimes like this, a berth of toleration is required.

You are already selecting from a limited pool of people who are ethnic European and want to band together. Add this to a further smaller list of them that have basic knowledge of who are our enemies are and that legal genocide is being conducted against us. Further limiting the pool is practical skills, not being a criminal, being able to socialize, and make a living. That's already 1/200 or less of ethnic Europeans.

>I also think that the Ex-Wife looks pretty fucking AshCanNazi, and the fact she's ALLOWED on the land with a new BF or whatever, and was even IN the newscasts about it is another liability.
I don't think this is much of a concern either, really. Inevitably, a lot of people got redpilled in the last 5 years. If he was still married within recent years, yes, it'd be an issue if what you say is true. My jewdar didn't go off either with her.
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>>48629
>You are already selecting from a limited pool of people who are ethnic European and want to band together. Add this to a further smaller list of them that have basic knowledge of who are our enemies are and that legal genocide is being conducted against us. Further limiting the pool is practical skills, not being a criminal, being able to socialize, and make a living. That's already 1/200 or less of ethnic Europeans.
Well...are you an ACTUAL WORKER?
I was...
That's all I'll say about it here.
>Outside of truly horrible crimes like this, a berth of toleration is required.
Kek.
Indeed.
Again.. I hope they WIN on principal and for precedent, but I'll have NOTHING more to do with them.
You don't know who you are talking to...
That Pic is in front of the RTTL "showerhouse"
Again...I hope they WIN.
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About the comment...
NVRMND
This Chan wipes metadata..
Prolly 4 the BEST
>>48626
>email required to apply
Glows hard. Avoid.
>>48629
I concur, the cat poster is somebody they dumped and is resultantly mad about it.  Pushing back against now that rattle survived the first wave of legal scrutiny is ridiculous. We should ignore any of their slip ups as part of the learning process and get on with the process of settling since this is a golden moment. It's possible that the current admin may tolerate this kind of community if it manages to stay reasonable and not a nuisance. 

>>48633
That's not evidence of anything malicious. You do realize the end goal is to actually live there, right?
>>48633
How does requiring an email to sign up for an in-person organization "glow"? It's not some anonymous messaging app or imageboard. You need to be able to receive correspondence. You can use a secure email and as far as I know you can use a pseudonym and sign up as anonymously as you like. Beyond, you know, actually doing something outside of your keyboard.
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>>48606 (OP) 
Don't have time to look into it, but sounds good on the surface.
The world is near fubar so if you can form a tight-knit group of good people around you, you're going to be in a comparatively good place while the rest of society rots and decays.
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>>glows hard. Avoid.
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Time to join your people anon
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>>48606 (OP) 
Beyond Based.

If it is legal, we can all make enclaves all over the U.S, enabling collectivization. Huge in-fact.
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https://www.amren.com/podcasts/2025/02/building-our-own-communities/

This is the podcast on it before it was cool for those interested
>>48666
What an informative video
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>>48688
I know J. Taylor is getting old, but he's still the thought leader for this entire concept and deserves to be the one trumpeting it. He's been saying for years and years - "we just want to be left alone". Now, at long last is a group of people actually willing to implement that vision. Now's the time to dogpile in and make this vision a reality so popular that they can't just shut it down as has happened previously. Until the legal challenge was over I was on the fence, now that it's been greenlit I think there's hope
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>>48686
Yes, the lack of physical  concentration and safety in numbers is a large part of what has defeated our agenda till now. It's easy for the leftist state thugs to gang up on lone individuals with a brave voice and ruin them economically. It's far harder, if not impossible, to do that when their neighbours and society all solidly back and refuse to ostracize them. Territorial annexation is a long overdue step
I’ve been thinking about RTTL. Mostly about some work ideas. People obviously need both money and food. What could future communities produce and sell? The Amish for example focus on furniture, carpentry, construction and agriculture. Could we have sort of guideline for communities? Things that we can replicate across the board with multiple skill levels and work for everyone from teenagers to adults and perhaps older individuals near retirement?

To start with I have been thinking that they grow cider apples and juneberries to brew their own cider and wine. Juneberries can be frozen. The cider and wine can be marketed as speciality products. Could have a microbrewery. Could also brew beer. France has loads of little regions producing some great cider. 

They could plant cherries, asian pears and different berry varieties to sell soft fruit in the summer. Some curious varieties to bring in customers like: balloon berries, red bayberry, black raspberry, rubus hararasp, gooseberry(various), honeyberry, Japanese wine berry, thimbleberries, smultron, nanking cherry, alongside the traditional blueberries, raspberries and strawberries. At this scale you can setup an automatic watering system and build your own greenhouse/grow tunnel setup. You can have your own garden centre/plant nursery to sell plants at that kind of scale. Grow your own from seed or from trimmings. Could also grow general garden or house plants for sale. A gardening centre could also be linked to a potter? 

You can grow carrots, potatoes, beetroots, onion, garlic and cabbage. Beetroots can be grated with onion and sugar and made into a sort of salad that is stored in jars after being pressure cooked. Cabbage can be made into sauerkraut with grated carrots. Other berries can be made into jams or freeze dried. With so much going on in terms to plants you could have bees and sell honey. Kompot is a thing. Honey, sugar and hazelnut sweets like nougat or hazelnut pasteli could have some potential. 

I’ve seen so many stands selling products from family farms in Croatia that it’s practically burned into my brain. I’ve seen little roadside stands in America too. A larger community could have its own farm shop. Could also sell online. 

https://twoupriders.com/road-side-farm-stands-bosnia-croatia/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6nnJhChJuJk

Hazelnuts could be grown commercially. They can be harvested and cracked with specialised machinery. Although with orchards there are issues with pests that can ruin your crop. There are ways to get around it but that would require research and scouting the general region you live in. I think that diatomaceous earth is sprayed on plants to kill insects, sometimes orchards have nets over the trees and of course there is the option of insecticide.  Maybe you can crowdfund for specific projects? People are more willing to help projects that have some actual physical goal rather than some ambiguous promise. 

Maybe a traditional European styled restaurant/pub? English breakfast, French, Italian, Polish and Croatian dishes and home baked apple crumbles, cheese or chocolate cakes for desserts. Bangers and mash, hunters chicken, burgers, ribs with chips, roast chicken, fish and chips, steak and chips, Ratatouille, beef stew, Duck Confit, krupnik, Grochówka, schnitzel and sauerkraut, chili con carne, Swedish meatballs, Kotlety mielone, Croatian style meat barbecue and salad(Ajvar is great with steak). These are just some suggestions. I’m thinking about simple dishes with more or less basic ingredients. Obviously you would want to pick out some popular and easy to cook dishes. There is also the problem of regulations and hostiles. Leftists and zog would be looking to shut down anything that could bring money into your community.
>>48691
>"we just want to be left alone"
'We just want to be left alone' strikes me as the other shoe of 'but what if it was the other way around?' that pseudo-conservatives cite often. The fact of the matter is that our enemies have no concern for the legitimacy of this philosophical argument. Their ideology is to use any means of eradicating any trace of ethnic European heritage, history, and culture. Period. Why are we framing this in anything except a total war mindset? All other races have clearly shown no regard for legality, laws, or morals when it comes to the topic of ethnic Europeans.

I'm reminded of the NAP from the lolbertarians from earlier this century. The fact of the matter is that NAP and Libertarian ideals work great in small ethnically homogeneous tribes, but utterly fail when your enemies are nation-states or anarchic invader rapist-murder gangs or ((( evolved parasites ))) which mimic your appearance while fully subscribing to millennia-old genocidal death cult ideologies. There is no law here. Jews and other groups will simply poison the wells of these communities, the government will use direct-energy weapons, and the lawless non-White hordes will do everything they can to invade and use lawfare completely absent of any shred of justice. I'm not saying don't form these communities; I'm saying form these communities under full knowledge that you are part of a racial-holy war where there is no concept of convention or means our enemies will forgo employing. Plan likewise.
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Absolutely haram.

>Protocol 392-A54 §IV, Rules, Regulations, and Precepts
>"No juxtapositions with jigaboos and gentiles, can be permitted."
>>49027
It's just what's practical and what makes a good soundbite. Jared is a soft sell persuasion guy who was very influential in presenting his side as reasonable. It's not supposed to be taken as the entire guiding philosophy
>>49021
A tradie crew of White people friendly nationalists would be a smash hit, like out of the ballpark probably. There's probably millions of people in the united states would who prefer to fund like-minded people if they kept the controversy on the down low
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I got banned from https://patriots dot win or I would post this.  The mods are israeli assets.

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>>49027
I once discussed this "imagine the other way around" bullshit with a psychologist. One idea expressed in discussion I'd like to reiterate - the solution is not to say "imagine the other way around!" It's to say "Yeah, the other way around is a good thing actually." By vocally agreeing with your opponent's "quiet part," you force them to either backtrack (good for you) or agree (makes them look bad). There's no plausible deniability solution. You can't weasel your way out.
>>49021
Engaging in business directly via RTTL, at least on land held by the community, might get tricky especially when you get to the point where you might need to hire employees. That's a whole other ball of laws and lawsuits you have to navigate.

The Amish amd such don't just hire Amish, although they are not targeted for lawfare (yet) so in practice it does tend to be homogenous. Still there have been instances where it turned out some of the scummier Amish quilt makers, for example, actually had a bunch of illegal Koreans in the back on sewing machines, lol.

I think businesses should be promoted by individual members and not directly tied to the RTTL land and/or LLC-PMA. Things that are either remote (e.g. IT or media creation) or able to be shipped remotely (honey, coffee roasting, stable agricultural products) might be a good idea. Or commodity farming. If you have a storefront it should not be anywhere near the RTTL land.
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>>49035
If they have someone experienced and ready to teach the younger guys. It’s useful to have a skilled and qualified individual to lead a team. It’s not like any random guy could start doing renovations, extensions or new builds at the same level as professionals. You need qualifications and certificates for electrical work. Plumbing isn’t something that you would want to mess up. I’m sure that some things can be learned on the fly or from the internet but there is a limit.  

>>49053
That makes sense. Still, the individual members can work together for certain projects no? Each individual could be responsible for a different step in a chain. Is it possible to restrict hiring to a certain area? A geographic restriction?
>>49053
I would be curious what is legally feasible under the current state of american laws over there. I can see these guys being subjected to a doxing pressure campaign potentially although in theory they shouldn't have to all work occupations restricted to the plots of land they bought
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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/467971287
Super useful thread. The Kraut talks about how Germans are apparently well ahead of the ball on doing this
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>>49021
>Beetroots can be grated with onion and sugar and made into a sort of salad that is stored in jars after being pressure cooked.
While this is Great, White food-Tech™ you'll get more healthful benefits from it by simply using vinegar and salt and the natural lactic acid flora of the vegetables.
loosley covered and/or vaporlocked will do wonders for both flavors AND health benefits.
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>>49079
and yes, these volkisch groups seem to be doing all the homemaker mormon type crafts as well
>you don't understand that germans understand what were up against for 100 years
>we didn't wake up like most of you 10 years ago, wondering what happened to your country
>we knew what was coming and have been prepared
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There have been a few new articles and interviews on this recently. Of course the media outlets are sending the degenerate reporters in. DW, a german outlet, sent in some lesbo. The New York Times sent in a real estate reporter...hilariously she says she didn't divulge to the RTTL crew that she was a jew.

I don't know boys, do you think they could figure it out?
>>48628
>Ex-Wife looks pretty fucking AshCanNazi
Jup.. my Jewdar buzzing is off the charts...
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>>48658
>How does requiring an email to sign up for an in-person organization "glow"?
Use your rotating PGP key signature to prove your indentity nigger.
Are you even white?
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>D&C glownigger has entered the chat.
>>50340
>>50341
>>50342
Can you erev rav mamzers give it a rest?
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>>50341
I’ve been thinking about return to the land and money issues for our isolationist communities. Small industry might be a struggle with the competition from state sponsored companies in Asia and their cheap labour. Car manufacturing would be a challenge and would get opposed by the system, small electronics, fidgets and cheap products might be a struggle too. So what if instead the community took a management position and utilised its influence to establish an online market place like Etsy, eBay or Amazon?
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>>53047
Yeah, I'm interested to hear what came of rattle as well. It sounded like a promising idea.... but do they actually have people doing it? Is there any tangible development at all? I came across an article interviewing the people involved and it seemed to be under ten men and women.  The founder sponsoring the project is also, predictably, a little odd. Seemingly only accepts christians to the settlement as well so it's actually much more strict than just a european settlement community. 

Farming, Manufacturing etc will require capital resources I suspect these people do not have. They might do small scale fabrication of some sort. The Mormons had a hardwood furniture business that was successful, something along those lines might find success if marketed as an ideological buy. 

If they know how to manufacture electronics, they might try selling privacy respecting laptops and phones. I have talked about the nootropic craze with racetam smart drugs and peptides which can be bought wholesale and then tested for purity, but that isn't something you can just walk into without deep research. They are probably better off just selling the land and marketing that, with the premise that people are buying affordable community integration.  I think Israel did agrarian communes with their kibbutz system?
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>>48606 (OP) 
The christian aspect makes it retarded. 

Aarvoll is also a midwit which makes sense with being a christcuck, if you don't believe me check his little videos of his monologue philosophy videos. 

I also wouldn't be surprised if he is a fed, but its much more likely he is just stupid.
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>>53064
Its repellant to the kind of people they don't want to deal with and you're probably among the kinds of people they would want to filter.
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>>53064
Today we will retuuuuuuurrrrnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!
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>>53076
goyim
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>>53077
Pink nipple test FAILED
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To be slightly more serious, you need to keep in mind what kind of life he led and what type of people he hung around for how many years and he was already what mid 20s? 

>>53068
the christcuck label makes it really easy to spot retards, it's like reading the early life and seeing someone is jewish.
>>53049
>Seemingly only accepts christians to the settlement as well so it's actually much more strict than just a european settlement community. 

RTTL and the initial settlement are not exclusively Christian. Aarvoll has mentioned that other RTTL communities, depending on the organizing members and settlement charters, could be exclusive to Christianity or Heathenry, or specific to certain modes if living. As long as it is within RTTLs overall scope, of course.

>but do they actually have people doing it

Yes. They have many people living there full time, as well as seasonal workers, and other members in the area who, while not residing on the property, are close enough to regularly participate. They've regularly been posting updates on running underground electric, septic, building a community pavilion, etc. It's certainly rough but you're talking about people building up homesteads and infrastructure from the ground up without some multi-million dollar construction company.

There also was just a fall gathering that drew over 200 people, and Patriot Front showed up withal a work party and knocked out a huge number of projects with them.

You know how how everyone always posts those videos of the Amish building a barn with a hundred men in a single day? And then our guys are like "imagine if we could work together like this?" Well it's starting to happen. Faggots can post Aarvoll's camwhoring fuckup to try and derail stuff, but it's on track to be way bigger than him.
>>53089
That's really heartwarming. I wish people would post updates on spaces like this as I had no idea hundreds of people were getting involved. Sky news with their interview there said Aavoll was only open to taking christian whites, which would have negated me from ever joining.

And of course, there was the thing about Rattle being exclusively open to white couples, and there aren't many of those successfully forming in our sphere. I'm not sure if it's worth a trip to see what these people are about quite yet. I think a relatively inoffensive ethnic community could easily pass the acceptability test, and offensive one would not. Which one will rattle be?
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>>48606 (OP) 
Shit glows brighter than a red dwarf bout to go supernova.
The lady has a hooked nose and did porno with the "leader" to RTL
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>>53104
Absolutely nothing about this project glows. Fuck off fed
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>Absolutely nothing about this project glows. Fuck off fed
The amount of no content trolls and fedjacketers this thread draws is great. Good sign that the project pisses them off and is actually a good idea.
>>53076
>>53077
Pretty funny seeing these exact judeo-glownigger posts and pics get uploaded on schedule with this thread after they get removed every week or so.
>The amount of no content trolls and fedjacketers this thread draws is great. Good sign that the project pisses them off and is actually a good idea.
This. Doesn't matter when the chan had 150 or more anons or barely any activity, they consistently target this thread and /dag/.
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>>53119
Definitely. Feds hate this idea because it is actionable, repeatable, and peaceful. And if we get enough people for one rattle project we can probably fund a dozen. And that would be the beginning of a new era of political sociology, the pro white enclave. Don't waste your time with just votes, stake out a claim for yourself in something that matters
>>53111
Its because there's nothing they can do about it because there are no laws being broken, there are no domestic terrorists. Its a bunch of christian dorks checking out to build a parallel society opting out of the civilizational pet nigger social disruption/control experiment. If it catches on their entire racketeering system will collapse.
The way people people value/interact with property ties people to a civilization.
Shit that gets tossed out are all of their rackets. No real estate agents/bankers, no municipal development regulation mafia, no government social programs moving central american gangbangers into your neighborhoods, no school unions demanding you fund them while they raise your kids to be lemmings, no rigging costs of living to minimize people's ability to save money so that they can participate and compete. The price of participating in their civilization is very high. People massively fucking off to build their lives on private property and not play the game scares the shit out of jews.
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>>53150
Correct evaluation. The existence of white idpol is constituent on creating communities that actually allow the expression of it. The excessive mixing strategy of cities is what allowed race marxism to take over by muting the existence of these spaces. Creating a return to the land is a very smart strategy and worth supporting.
>>53094
I am a member of RTTL and Pagans are allowed. Militant Atheists are discouraged.

Identity takes strong precedent. Sign up for an interview and pay the 20 dollar processing fee (they have hundreds and hundreds of applicants so it takes time and effort. Maybe thousands now bc I interviewed 1 year ago)
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>>53186
I would need United States Citizenship. Otherwise I would have long since joined a group which actually shares my values. I hope 51st happens sooner rather than later anon
>>53186
>Maybe thousands now bc I interviewed 1 year ago

My main concern with RTTL right now is that the rapid growth is opening it up to dilution and of course possible infiltration. I am actually hoping they pause membership or something in the near future and let it cook.
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>>53210
There's basically no way to have open facing public recruitment without infiltration. Just don't do anything that would provoke public outcry or that might be illegal
>>53076
It's an obvious kosher op
>>48691
>Until the legal challenge was over I was on the fence, now that it's been greenlit I think there's hope
While they are in the clear in Arkansas, this nonsense will get rebooted as they expand to other states. Glad their membership structure held up to initial scrutiny though!

I was expecting potential issues with the "shares in LLC to get a lot" aspect of their contract being deemed materially the same as a real estate deed. But if they took their individual member contracts far away enough from anything resembling a deed to a piece of land then the Arkansas AG's conclusion should continue to hold up. Unfortunately, they will have to face this scrutiny again as they expand to other states, and the ADL and ACLU will surely try again even in Arkansas with a future AG. Those salty kikes will never let up until they lose a court case and there is some highly specific precedent.

Still, the worst case scenario is that RTTL would just have to modify their LLC share purchase agreements to get even further away from anything resembling individual exclusive ownership of land by members of the community. But they should ultimately be successful because the precedent of private clubs with exclusive membership owning real estate for member use is well established. Ultimately, this is our Constitutional right to Free Association that's at stake here. And the Fair Housing Act is already a gross violation of that.

>>53089
>>53186
Are you guys living in the actual community? I am curious what the costs involved might be. I'm really interested in this and one of the planned expansions is coming to my general neck of the woods. But my current financial situation likely isn't good enough to get a plot and build a homestead. Are there any opportunities for people to live in the community in some kind of roommate shared housing setup while working towards getting their own plots to build on later? And what's the current mix as far as families and singles? What about ages?
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>How do you feel about the Return To The Land project that has been getting some media attention recently? 
It's a survival model that will have to be adopted if the world is to have any non-mutted races left before the century's out.

Of course, they will try to destroy any such venture; not only because they innately hate homogeneity; but, also because they cannot tolerate the juxtaposition of successful, homogeneous enclaves adjacent to the dystopic chaos that they have planned for the "One World".
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>>53439
A better "survival model" would be the total reforming of the European race's collective thought-structure away from the semitic systems that brought us to this point (eg, abrahamic religions, masonic science, jewish popular culture). Physically separating won't be enough. 98% of all goyim (white or not) are utterly and lastingly brainwashed.
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>>53450
>masonic science
QRD? Are there any other fields I'm unaware of besides NASA-related tech?
>>53453
masonic science = vaccines, trannies, and global warming. WEF shit, if i had to guess what anon had meant. i call it marxist "the science."
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90% (I would argue) of modern science (natural philosophy) is renewed ancient paganism restored to outward secular life by masonic agents. Quickly reviewing here in sketched form: 

Evolution is hermetic transformationism modernized by the freemason Darwin.

DNA is the invented occultic vehicle through which claimed evolutionary changes are carried and communicated, a concept expropriated out of hermetic symbolism by masonic scientists working at the Rosicrucian Royal College. 

Heliocentricity is pythagorean mysticism modernized by the freemason Newton.

Gravity is the invented magic that causally glues imagined circling spherical worlds together in this mystical model. 

Big Bang is kabbalistic tsimtsum modernized by judeo-masonic scientists from within zog academia.  

Outer space and the digitally painted existence of an infinitude of traversable worlds is the kabbalistic doctrine of hekhalot and the merkaba/ochema, theatrically brought to popular spectacle by the stage directors of masonic nasa. 

Coronal Mass Ejections are another allied and equally false concept clearly ideationally related to the kabbalistic doctrine of tsimtsum -- the notion of many descending levels of energy being emitted downward from out of a single superior luminous light source. And like most gnostic concepts, we can trace its origins to Platonic/Pythagorean philosophy, which also had something called "aporrheia" or "off-flowing" -- the belief that all of perceptible reality had emanated from out of a single hypercosmic light source. If you want to see a diagrammatic representation of this process, which would not be impertinent to our discussion, I’ve added a link here: https://www.tha.de/~harsch/graeca/Chronologia/S_ante06/Pythagoras/pyt_orko.html

The original pythagorean mantra runs thus :

“Ναὶ μὰ τὸν ἁμετέρας σοφίας εὑρόντα τετρακτύν,
παγὰν ἀενάου φύσεως ῥίζωμά τ᾽ ἔχουσαν.
Yea, by him of immeasurable wisdom finding the tetractys,
the fount of ever-flowing nature and having rootedness.”

Tsimtsum ultimately derives itself from the pythagorean tetractys. 

Quantum Mechanics is the masonic modernizing of the hermetic axiom — νους εστι θεος, nous esti theos: mind is god — the very ancient belief that man’s own mental activity was the non-physical layer and mediator driving the physical reality around him at its basest level.  Plutarch writing of Pythagoras wrote: “Σπεύδει δ᾽ αὐτῶι τῶν ἀρχῶν ἡ μὲν ἐπὶ τὸ ποιητικὸν αἴτιον καὶ εἰδικόν, ὅπερ ἐστὶ νοῦς ὁ θεός, ἡ δ᾽ ἐπὶ τὸ παθητικὸν τε καὶ ὑλικόν, ὅπερ ἐστὶν ὁ ὁρατὸς κόσμος.” which reads somewhat awkwardly but nevertheless literally: “It imports for him of [first] principles indeed that which is upon the creative and formal cause, which is mind is god [ὅπερ ἐστὶ νοῦς ὁ θεός], and the other that is upon the passive and material, which is the visible world.” 

Lastly and adjacently, the common accepted chronology whereby we understand our temporal placement was forged by the Venetian jew Julius Scaliger, who likely invented 7 centuries’ worth of phantom time (ie, we’re closer to the past than most think, it’s not the year 2025, and the world is less than 10000 years old). 

There are many other kindred examples. We have been ruled by judeo-phoenician mystics for many hundreds of years now. This group quite religiously follows the platonic directive of γενναιον ψευδος (gennaion pseudos/psuedos gennaion: noble falsehood, sometimes translated as “the noble lie”), which attaches to the hidden rulers the necessity of deceiving their subjects. Jews fight with (false) ideas just as equally as they fight with fake money and fake medicine (vaccines) and orchestrated wars.
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>>53089
>There also was just a fall gathering
Summary from JT:
https://www.amren.com/videos/2025/10/a-truly-inspiring-weekend/

>Crops are being planted in newly plowed fields, and chickens and goats supply eggs and milk.
>About 40 people now live in this bustling community.
>RTTL — and other projects, too — are undeniable proof that our movement has moved dramatically beyond talk and into action. As a man who has spent his life talking, I can’t tell you how moving it is to see such inspiring levels of commitment, dedication, and love for our people.

>>53047
>Car manufacturing
>electronics
>online market place
Brother, you need to reel your expectations back in by about 200 years of industrial development. These are residential communities being built from the dirt up with little capital and on the razor's edge of legal viability, not some wacky city builder game where an industrial base springs up overnight out of sheer willpower. Model your expectations more in line with artisan goods like >>49021. These projects ultimately only need to export enough to cover ZOG land taxation; everything else can and should be organized communally or with a microcurrency in the true spirit of a parallel society. Orania is the model:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ora_(currency)
>>53478
What's going on at these meetings in the first picture? Are they some kind of committee?
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>>53478
Looks fun. I've been doing some readings on local utopian society projects, and they tend to have varied fates as they struggle to fit into the economy. I wonder for instance how they are doing interfacing with the local towns

You've only made it, when you have 200 families
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>>53496
That's one of the talks during the Fall Gathering in the new pavilion they just finished.

>>53498
>interfacing with the local towns
From what I've been told, the surrounding locals range from supportive to ambivalent, although there's already agitation efforts underway being organized at the local level by some christcucks who seem to have taken specific affront to the exclusion of jews.
>>53550
Oh, of course.... what are the chances of those affronted people being put up to it by j pressure groups.

Anyways. Relations with the neighbours is one of the few Achilles heels to such a project. I think the guys doing Rattle are smart enough to have good presentation, but it really is important not to upset them
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>>53550
>>53558
>t, although there's already agitation efforts underway being organized at the local level by some christcucks who seem to have taken specific affront to the exclusion of jews.
>Oh, of course.... what are the chances of those affronted people being put up to it by j pressure groups.
At this point, any organized religious group including Christians that recognizes the need to segregate and exclude other racial tribes knows enough about the jewish question to view them with hostility. I agree it's either christcucks or an actual jewish-led agitation effort. I've seen this cancer occur even with jew-suspicious megachurches, where ((( Messianic Jew ))) groups would come out of nowhere to investigate them, stir up trouble, and do their best to dismantle them after the ADL criticized a sermon and book or two by their leadership years prior.
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>>53562
Whenever somebody makes an exception to state "but what bout the news", I just know their brain is getting loaned out to a zio front company
There is an old German book that I feel might fit: The Warwolf by Hermann Löns (1910). Maybe you will like it.

A peasant gets caught in the strife of the Thrity Years War (1618-1648) and stears his village/community through a lot of trouble.

ref: https://www.westholmepublishing.com/book/the-warwolf-hermann-lons/

German: https://archive.org/details/loens-der-wehrwolf

English: https://libgen.li/ads.php?md5=6bbb4d5161a9a7683081dc485bb73a81
>>53550
>From what I've been told, the surrounding locals range from supportive to ambivalent

In one of their videos highlighting the fall gathering, they apparently put over $10,000 into the local economy. Also it seems some of the guys who work in trades are hired by the locals too. It is a good setup. If they keep out the spergs they should be fine on that front.
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>>53664
I have such high hopes
>>53453
good game
i remember playing it when younger
>>53496
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>>53478
This looks wonderful anon.

Do you or any anon here knows of similar projects in South America?

I would like to get involved with something in this spirit.
A bunch of the usual suspects in Pennsylvania's House are working to preemptively ban the expansion of RTTL into the state with some very bizarre and contradictory language. Note that they make no mention of religion so that they can keep their little kike enclaves above reproach.

https://archive.is/ItdeN
https://archive.is/wuM8U
>My legislation clarifies that under the Pennsylvania Human Relations Act bona fide private or fraternal organizations should not include organizations that restrict their membership based on race, color, national origin, or ancestry for the purpose of denying housing, employment or public accommodations.

Statute text with proposed change underlined:
(10) Nothing in this clause shall bar any religious or
denominational institution or organization or any charitable or
educational organization which is operated, supervised or
controlled by or in connection with a religious organization or
any bona fide private or fraternal organization from giving
preference to persons of the same religion or denomination or to
members of such private or fraternal organization or from making
such selection as is calculated by such organization to promote
the religious principles or the aims, purposes or fraternal
principles for which it is established or maintained. Nor shall
it apply to the rental of rooms in a landlord-occupied rooming
house with a common entrance, nor with respect to discrimination
based on sex, the advertising, rental or leasing of housing
accommodations in a single-sex dormitory or rooms in one's
personal residence in which common living areas are shared. __As
used in this clause, the term "bona fide private or fraternal
organization" shall not include organizations that restrict
membership in the organization on account of race, color,
national origin or ancestry for the purpose or effect of denying
equal access to housing, employment or public accommodations.__
>>55221
That’s the point of the system. It’s about managing the slaves as economic units within an economic zone while the parasites get fat. People bred as slaves for thousands of years behave like docile slaves unless they get whipped into a frenzy by the ruling class. They won’t let you organise freely within the system. The whole freedom, rights and democracy fantasy gets dropped like a hot potato as the mask comes off.
>>55221
Yeah the thing is that this probably won't do anything to RTTL since RTTL doesn't actually provide housing, doesn't own housing units as a PMA, and so on. The land is owned by an LLC, not the PMA, and Pennsylvania has no control over who can own an LLC formed in another state. At worst they could deny tax exempt status to RTTL at the state level, which is minor headache at best.
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>>55221
I hope the guy proposing this gets zapped. Biblically speaking!
>>53076
Hot as fuck..

>>53465
Translation of the Greek of Cassius Dio chronicling the kikes' slaughter of Europeans upon the shores of ancient Northern Africa in the Kitos war. 

First paragraph reads: And in Egypt they did many similar things and in Cyprus of a certain Artemion having led them. And there were ruined 24000. And on account of this it is lawful for no judean to step foot [on that island], but even if having been forced by the wind he would fall out into the island, he is put to death. However others and also Lucius having been sent by Trajan suppressed the judeans. 

Second paragraph reads: Indeed again Trajan was prepared to march into Mesopotamia, but as he was pressed by disease, he himself otherwise urged to sail into Italy, and he left Publius Aelius Hadrianus in Syria with the army.
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>>53078
>>48633
What are you proposing? That a true White man's town would have prospective residents walk up to the guy who started it a firm handshake and 20 dollars? The world doesn't work that way anymore old man, take your tired old boomer ass off to retirement land and piss away you grandkid's inheritance on flip hookers
>>48606 (OP) 
I like that RTTL exists but I feel like it's the same mistake Pagan Romans 1500 years ago. The cities had been overrun by immigrant christian jew worshipers and foreign slaves. And true Romans only could be found in their farm houses outside the cities.
I think the only way out is THROUGH
I think instead of isolating ourselves we need organize and actively actually participate in the system and build our own community and own system on the current system. Like how jews have done.
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>>59005
rattle is the only positive social development in the United States with a chance of growth or persisting. Although concentrating needlessly only plays into the hands of government initiatives to control the population. Every three people in a room, one a CI trying to actively get people arrested....

Rattle has to survive the court case before it can get rolled as the future. But the states had best be aware that if this project fails because of lawfare, they'll never be seen as the torch of liberation on the remigration question
>>48610
>They were shortsighted and stupid to amplify it.
>>48628
>They shortsightedly amplified
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>>59014
denounce Kier Starmer and Ingsoc
>>59005
>I like that RTTL exists but I feel like it's the same mistake Pagan Romans 1500 years ago.

RTTL chose Arkansas for the first place not because they wanted to run away but because it's the most defensible and cost effective spot they could find. Defensible because the local courts amd juries would be as impartial as could be expected, and cost effective because land is cheap and zoning non-existent.

If they are successful legally I think there is every intention of spreading the model to more affluent areas. The whole point is trying to establish a model where you can legally accumulate wealth, property, and skilled individuals. On the flip aide, if you are raising kids, you don't want them around the degenerate urban cores if you can avoid it.
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>>59041
You know the thing where single women go to the cities to get an arts degree and end up freakish tattooed antifascist degenerates? That cycle is one we have to break. Women should marry at 19 years old before they make the transition
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