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>>217 (OP) 
Just step away from the screen nigga lmao

>>217 (OP) 
Yeah controlled fasts.
Like, if you know it's just once a week, can you fast for a whole day from internet, knowing you can fully return tomorrow for a solid 6 days?

The goal is to painfully withdraw within tolerable withdrawal. Then up your fast period. Then find substitutes.

It's hard. They say you need rock bottom because the "fuck no I'm done fuck it, no more ever" puts you over the edge of a rebound binge.

The problem with moderation in withdrawal is you psychologically try to make up for your "fasts" with rebounds. So totalism helps combat that.

But I think you just need substitutes. And the idea of "religion" is somewhat important. You have to fast towards some higher state of being, not just to prove a point.

Dopamine motivation is in fact highly rational at the inner ego level. If you're honest with yourself, why live for anything else? You know you like the thing that pleasures you, truly, physiologically.
So you need a higher purpose. If not God, "other people". Not being esoteric. Making the point that inward looking "I want to be better" doesn't work since your brain knows that "getting my fix is pretty much the best version of myself, I know I ain't shit".

Maybe do a volunteer at some cringe soup kitchen hopefully where you feel like someone's day got better because of what you did. These places can be full of psychos who don't feel that way too.

Find external purpose, not grand purpose, simple, mundane purpose, but external to you. Then controlled, limited fast to accomplish that purpose.

Then find substitutes and dive into them. Plan this carefully. Hobby model aircraft or whatever. Physical is better than digital. Social is better than isolated. But the same pointless nerdy autism of gooning can be fulfilling launching model rockets but legitimately improve your life.

Try learning an instrument, commit to some period of time every single damn day. Music tweaks your brain.

Coffee is proven to be essentially harmless and almost beneficial. don't avoid drinking it.
Or, green tea is best if you don't drink coffee, for a mid afternoon buzz.

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>>219 reflects my personal experience.
Controlled fasts, God and substitutes are the 3 keys you need (<- start doing this).

The personal twist I used was to gamify the fasts by not allowing myself to try a longer fast until I completed the current tier. So I started with a week, then 2, then a month, then 3 months, then 6, etc.
In between the fasts I could do what I wanted, but if I failed during a fast I would have to do it all over again starting at 1 week. Maybe I was trying to subconsciously drive the point "there are periods where you need to control yourself and there are consequenes if you dont"
After failing twice during a fast, I decided to use harder punishments like uninstall my video games or shift+delete my coom collection. The next time I was trying to look for material, I really felt the weight of consequence. I've seen people mention using cold showers as negative reinforcement but I already enjoy taking them so it doesn't work on me.

Regarding substitutes, look towards creative activities (drawing, writing, music, dancing) with a progression curve (working out, even competitive video games, chess). Funnily enough our brains get easily addicted to improoving
In my case it was chess and building stuff in Minecraft (not just aimlessly roaming looking for loot)

Curiously enough I would spend a bit of time browsing panda threads on /h/ during that period, although I never did it before. There was some drama back then with a lot of content being pruned and websites shutting down, I never missed an opportunity to shit on coomers for being weak willed retards, the feeling of disgust helped a lot.

>>217 (OP) 
you're basically going to have to check yourself into rehab for 2-5 months mate, I went through the same situation when I was younger. If you can't afford that, go on a long trip involving trains, hiking, and other offline ways of sightseeing. Consider leaving your phone at home.

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>>217 (OP) 
It helps not having to look at coomer bait on 4pol, or anywhere else for that matter. I'd have a clean spree for a few weeks, then I'd see some random ethot in a questionable pose on a slide thread, or a coworker would show me some bimbo doing something stupid on instacrap or twatter, then I'd relapse later that day. A sort of "Why not?" mentality. It's a real demoralization tactic on 4troons.

As for internet addiction, I'm not battling that. Need to keep up with the latest psyops. Sometimes, I'll go to the store without a phone. At some point, I realize I'm not accomplishing anything doom scrolling through threads.

>>217 (OP) 
Deep reading is the best thing for internet addiction and internet induced scatter brain. 

If you are interested, read The Shallows by Nicholas Carr

>>246 et al
thanks guys, this is good advice

keep us updated OP
your attempts, failures and successes