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I don't know a thing about these besides parasite pill, etc. There was a good thread on it all that died by accident a few months back, would any anons who are knowledgeable be willing to bake a new one?
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Drop some topics and / or content that was in there and I will share everything there is.
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>>174 (OP) 
I never got into the parasite cleanse. Almost bought some turpetine and wormwood, but got too busy.

One thing I swear by (hold for the shills) is good ol' chlorine dioxode. They use it to purify drinking water out in the wilderness. The reaction of Sodium Chlorite and an acid (hydrochloric acid or citrus acid) results in the release of oxygen. Allegedly, all this oxygen permeates your body and basically burns all of thin tissued viral organisms and other "impurities". I haven't looked into the exact reactions in the body, but I can say it reduces inflammation after workouts. I used to be uncomfortably sore after heavy deadlifts where I'd need a week to recuperate, but now I can go back to gym the next day.

Stonger doses from protocols will incite a herxheimer reaction. I started on a strong dose of eight drops of the reacted mixture in 4oz of water and felt nauseous and extremely lethargic for a few days. I switches to single doses in 16oz of water and still saw benefits with muscle recovery.

I've been doing a seven dose serving in 4oz of water in the mornings before working out. If I've had spicy food or alcohol within the last 24 hours, or the following 24, my shits will be explosive and watery. Lately, my body has acclimated to the concentration and I have normal poops and no lethargy or nausea.

Haven't gotten a cold in a while either. Been on the stuff daily for about three years. No ill effects to speak of. If anything, the worst is it smells like treated pool water and tastes gross, but I am alive and kicking.

Added DMSO for it's absorbtion properties.
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>>191
>Chlorine dioxide
It's a bleaching agent.You use bleach to disinfect water in the wild. It's a strong oxidant. I can never tell if you ClO2 people are being serious
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>>192
Very serious. Three years, dude. It's even used in some municipalities to disinfect drinking water. They sell tablets for hikers in the wilderness. Are there lawsuits against companies selling this product that can be also used in bleaching processes? Chlorine Dioxide is not sodium hypochlorite. Big difference.

|https://www.youtube.com|/watch?v=BbKnS_Ngn5U
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>>193
So is bleach. They also do this for bleach. Chlorine dioxide is a stronger oxidative (this is bad) than bleach.
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>>194
And therein lies the battle for semantics. Anon, when you say bleach, are you referring to the chemical composition of liquid bleach sodium hypochlorite NaClO, or perhaps you mean bleach powder calcium hypochlorite Na(ClO)2. Chlorine dioxide ClO2 is neither of these compounds. Nor is it equivalent to the diatomic molecule of chlorine Cl2. Structurally, chlorine dioxide is distinct from what is commonly referred to as bleach as well as chlorine.

Maybe you are referring to the whitening process by which natural color is removed. Sodium hypochlorite is commonly used with whites in laundry. The ultraviolet rays of the sun can bleach bone given enough exposure. The paper mill industry uses chlorine dioxide to remove lignin, the glue-like substance that holds cellulose together, as it is more yellowish in color than that of pulp accepted commercially. These represent three different chemical reactions that all yield what is called bleaching. The term bleach is an oversimplification of both the structure and function of bleaching agents; therefore, such a label is inadequate in proving whether chlorine dioxide is harmful for human consumption.

The concern of oxidation caused by chlorine dioxide is dependent on the relative oxidation potential of two reacting substances picrel OxidationReactionPotential.jpg. This capacity of electron transference due to oxidation is referred to as oxidation reduction potential (ORP) and is expressed in millivolts. The common range used by water treatment companies is between -1000mV and 1000mV. A higher mV reading indicates greater potential for a molecule to gain an electron, where as a lower mV reading indicates greater potential for a molecule to lose an electron. The molecule that gains electrons is known as the oxidizing agent and the molecule losing electrons is referred to as the reduction agent picrel ORPVisual.jpg. According to picrel ORPRefTableVolts.jpg, chlorine dioxide generally has a standard electrode potential of 0.95 V, or 950 mV. Oxygen reads higher at 1.3 V, or 1,300 mV.

Further conclusions can be drawn when referring to acceptable ORP readings in water treatment picrel ORPReadingCommercialUse.jpg. Generally, commercial standards have established 600 mV, or 0.6 V, as acceptable for disinfected drinking water. For sterilized water used for cleaning wounds, a reading of 800 mV, or 0.8 V, is acceptable. If disinfected water for drinking reads at 600 mV, it can be assumed that microbes and pathogens that are harmful to humans when ingested have a lower ORP, and therefore; will be oxidized and eliminated in treated water with an ORP reading of at least 600 mV. Sterilized water is at the higher end of readings at 800 mV, but is considered safe for human tissue. Remembering that Chlorine Dioxide itself has an ORP of 950mV, where is the line drawn indicating unsafe ORP readings that are beyond the tolerance of the human body? The difference between sterile water and chlorine dioxide is a mere 150 mV? Wouldn't human tissue have an ORP reading greater than sterile water at a minimum? Are these water treatment companies taking a risk by establishing commercial standards that are at the exact threshold at which oxidation will harm human tissue? Did they not leave room for error by basing the ORP standards below the oxidation potential where human cells begin to be destroyed? I wager these companies don’t want to be sued by clients, like hospitals, who use their products that could cause harm to patients and consumers and set accepptable levels well below what is harmful for human consumption.

It’s difficult to find literature that indicates the specific level of ORP that is detrimental for human tissue, but as I stated, I’ve been using diluted chlorine dioxide in RO treated water for over three years, and am very pleased with it’s effects. I am a laymen and certainly took a risk by delving into treatment before I even researched this rebuttal, but I am alive and healthy. In better shape than I would be had I never tried the stuff. I wouldn't be able to do a five rep set of 460 lbs, then return to the gym the following day without chkorine dioxide. It is a crucial part of my regimen and I have yet to look back.
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>>194
>>195
Forgive the phonefagging.

I am taking a seven dose serving in about 4oz of water before work, but you don't have to take my word for it. There's a bunch of cringey testimonials on bitch-shoot with people saying how chlorine dioxide has alleviated their ailments:

Making it from scratch and some general information:
|https://www.bitchute.com|/video/dvaTNrnPZtMK

Guy has what he thinks is a cancerous mole on his dick and shows photos. No real dick pics, just close-ups of the mole slowly dissipating with topical treatment. Start at 05:50:
|https://www.bitchute.com|/video/g1aGW1BpPgCw

Guy alleges he cured his arthritis. Start at 02:30:
|https://www.bitchute.com|/video/UXWHbO7lJywc

I will note I am not making any claims myself that this cures anything. I have no verifiable method to show any sort of detox. The only thing I've mentioned is that soreness due to inflammation after weight lifting has been greatly reduced. Works for me. No one has to do anything they don't want to. Your mileage will vary.
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This is my topic. Ignore all that CDS shit, I've tried it and it isn't important except short term parasite pill quackery. The core concept behind it is for heavy metal (questionable), parasite and gut candida type removal. I believe it was also used as an anti-vax option for the blood. But it is not nootropic and not needed.

So going back to the start. To get into noots you want to get into racetams. Those usually potentiate glutamate release in the brain, making neurons fire faster. It runs off choline as a byproduct so all stackers tell you to have that on the side as well.... Alpha GPC. This whole topic is just an endless well involving how detailed your knowledge of human biochemistry for the brain is, so I'll just cut right to the practical and useful supps. Many "noots" are actually a waste of your time or meme redditor shit. Those people don't know anything usually.

Useful supps:
1. Oxiracetam is an ampakine, which means it works off neuron ampa receptors. It's also a mild stimulant. Just take it
2. Pramiracetam increases high affinity choline uptake in the brain, helping you absorb choline faster stacking with this process. It tastes really bad, but also raises Neurotransmitters as well. Just take it
3.Alpha GPC will raise acetylcholine levels in the brain because it is precursor, or something. Just take it with this stack or buy Choline bitarate
You have to cycle these things- typical deal is about a few days a week on and the rest off. You will notice the effect start to dip over time as your mind builds tolerance, although many of these things have been run successfully for much longer in clinical settings seemingly effectively.  Also mind mind the dosage, these are not toys and you can seriously harm yourself if you don't understand moderation. Powder always over pills, since it is cheaper and less able to fake. 

That's a good entry stack. It'll make you think faster, maybe even make you more irritable. But now you have to layer it with neurotrophic additives to help create more neurons. From my experience that's where the magic really works, where your mind is simply buzzing with thoughts because you are generating neurons. For that I suggest Semax, one of the more diluted nasal sprays from cosmic nootropics or similar. Raises BDNF very effectively, and the NT's as well although that isn't the important part. There are many moderate ways to raise BDNF, but I find most of that a money pit and not useful. A racetam stack with choline and acute bdnf stimulation will get you the mentat effect. Methylene blue is a meme additive shilled by many social media types, but it has a MAOI effect to raise dopa/serotonin, is antiparasitic anticancerous, antioxidant and raises int via another route I forget. You might consider that one as an adjacent to the stack since it is rather cheap once you do the buy in.

Now for some additives. Run Turmeric/curcumin. Just do it, cheap and an anti-inflammatory, anti cancer effect. As some phage was talking about with his chatgpt last thread inflammation can be a serious issue causing cognitive impairment. Even if you don't like this option you should run an anticancer option since that is a real fear in the noothacker world when you start growing the brain so to speak.

You probably want to take magnesium. Cheap, most are deficient, and in the brain it will stop you from ruining your mind with glutamate excitation. You should also take a basic MV, cod liver oil (fuck you peatfag) since that is a cofactor in neuron growth, cheap oral iodine, vit D3 and vit K2 to make it relevant etc.  Covering the basics, not going to make you uber but it helps at the entry level. 

Sulbutiamine is one of my favourites. It upregulates D1 receptors in the brain, causing you to become more driven and motivated. Makes you more outgoing although you have to be mindful with it. If you want to "repair your brain" fairly safely from shitty lifestyle spam NGF. That would be lion's mane most easily, although the process will take many months to get a return on investment.

There is a world of nootropics and many things for brain, body, health, lifespan etc. It's like a hidden menu of hacks in the game dev mode but each is quite an obscure tool and you have to learn all of them to really comprehend their use. Be very careful to research what each thing does and do not play with your neurotransmitters or you could cause psychosis by raising them, or get cancer or something equally awful. Beyond the meme reddit stuff this is very much a diy realm where you shouldn't play around with transistors without knowing about them
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Now I will continue into interesting stuff. This is more unsorted, since we are talking about a menu of things which do different things to the brain and body and you have to know how to apply them for the intended effect. And that requires knowledge of biochemistry

Centrophenoxine. This reverses aging related buildup of pigment in the brain, cellular debris etc. Raises acetylcholine. Very good bet for cognitive health, you want to run it for about 3 months to get the full cleaning of crap out according to the studies. Many people have issues from raising choline too high, can cause depression and rumination. Just be aware of that and mind your dose.

(Is should mention now. If you keep Acetylcholine levels too high or keep them from breaking down you can have serious problems. Do not megastack these things like a redditard, take your time and be very careful when playing with ACH. This is how some chemical destructants work)

BPC-157. This will accelerate your rate of bodily repair. Commonly paired with tb-500 although that isn't necessary. You can take it as pillz for diminished effect or as a nasal spray

(tip of importance. You do not have to inject any of these peptides to get them into your body despite that being a common method. You can make your own nasal spray, you can take it under the tongue, many peptides are now being delivered by specialized coated capsules to survive in the gut albiet weakly, you can use DMSO applied to the skin to help it get in. Needles are disgusting and gross)

The world of peptides has many interesting compounds. That's more of a eastern european/Russian thing and often they are related to anti aging or fitness. Bioregulators taken in courses to stimulate those processes in aging bodies. It's a topic of emerging value for people who have money to spend on life, but I don't know too much about it. 

There's the garden variety Herbal noots. I would call them gen 1 since they are usually less potent. Only talking about the useful ones here:
Vinpocetine. Raises bloodflow to the brain dramatically, which allows better nutrient delivery and makes you smarter. This would be good to add to any noot stack
Gotu Kola. Raises BDNF mildly, but also raises gaba causing you to be calmer. People shouldn't mess around with Gaba because of rebound/kindling, too much but this is a safe option and grows your brain
Bacopa monniri. Wasn't too impressed with this but it's a mild memory adjacent via serotonin you might run in the background
Forskolin. This is popular in biohacker circles because it raises cAMP in the brain allowing faster messaging. Another stack addition for someone who wants the ubergroup. Like up TULIP

Beyond this point I would be merely speculating about things not well tried on my part so that's not very useful. In this world it's about money spend to explore what works, since much of redditor and youtube noot writeups are actually product sponsorships designed to sell products. Sourcing is very important, critical for you getting what you order accurately and fairly. Just do science.bio and figure out the rest later as an american, it's easiest. Nootropics depot is overpriced, overrated junk that not longer does real heavy hitter noots. Bulk supplements is better but not really nootropic in that targeted way.
also for the record, you can remove toxoplasmosis cysts from your brain by running Black Sneed oil. Nobody seems to know this but it's in the papers online. Takes months and a high dose, but you can kill the cysts. So that CDF program wasn't completely garbage.
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Last bit is finding source for information, which is the upstream. David Tomen, the noot expert has a site which is a pretty good starter. I liked his book, which is just his site in physical form. Selfhacked is good as well. I plugged Datis Kharazzian for a textbook level overview of how a practicing doctor treats MEDICAL MENTAL PROBLEMS such as depression, anxiety, that sort of thing. 

(Just remembered. Nicotine is an excellent nootropic. Just take it straight and in low levels, it's an essential component for any serious uberstack although obviously you want to run anticancer adjacents and you cannot run that one forever.)
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>>174 (OP) 
>Parasite Pill Version 2.0.pdf
https://www.docdroid.net/MfW3sAr/parasite-pill-version-20-pdf#page=26
There's a place to start. It can be a little /x/ but this was driven off /pol/ so they has to percolate there, still a good exposé for most.

I will personally vouch for the effectiveness of Ivermectin and Fenbendazole. Highly recommended. Unless you're literally doing a 40 day fast, 98% you got some kind of issue.

https://diamondgforestproducts.com/100-pure-gum-spirits-of-turpentine/
Fantastic too, literally remove the gay. I'm serious a large percentage of the reviews on amazon where saying shit like that.

>Nerotrophics 
You mean?
>Nootropics
The biggest one I would mention is Monoatomic Gold, also known as Nano Gold, ORMUS/ORME, or more classically as Aurum Potabile, White Gold, or MFKZT.
https://priestessalchemy.com/shop/aetherium-platinum/
Is the type I recommend, very potent, very inexpensive. It can be extremely expensive, and especially when you get into other platinum group metals.

And speaking of those, let me intoduce you to Element 49, Indium
https://www.indium-supplement.com/indium-txt.html
>Indium seems to work via the feedback cycle in the hypothalamus / pituitary / adrenal axis (HPA). These glands controls the functions of 40 endocrine glands and help to regulate the production of 31 hormones.

>>193
>CDS [...] used in some municipalities to disinfect drinking water
I actually had this incredibly lucid sober conversation with a state trooper recently. We where talking about parasites and diseases. I mentioned how CDS could also be used to treat not just to those but also to prion disease, including the mutated protein/amyloid clots from vax sheding. Then he asked me if I knew about the wildlife wasting disease/zombie deer. I said I did, and he wondered aloud, if treating watering holes for wildlife with CDS could cure them... And I think he's fucking right on it! I feel that is very significant.

>>191
>DMSO 
Mah nigga. Dimethyl sulfoxide is nearly another borderline miraculous thing. Can be very double edged, literally it's been used as a weapon but can also be fantastic for circulating/delivering and dissolving things water cannot. A crystal at room temperature but liquid at body temperature. Anything mixed with it, then exposed to skin, will be carried into the bloodstream in seconds, be it medicine or otherwise...

I have a bottle I mostly use for general application, mixed 50% fresh real spring water and 50% DMSO. Great for general application in many circumstances, especailly with swelling or masses. I've even used this directly in my eyes
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34314611/

>>195
Mmmm, science! Thanks anon.

>>201
>This is my topic.
This is every one's topic. faggot.

> Ignore all that CDS shit
You are free to do as you wilt, but MMS/CDS has been very effective in my life and personal experience. I won't go on at excessive length now, but including for anti-parasite reasons and anti-nanotech and anti-biotech (clots and strange pain from COVID shedding). Particularly I found it useful for getting rid of the biofilm so the medicines could penetrate the parasites.
https://mmsinfo.org/protocols/Kalcker_Parasite_Protocol-K._Rivera_2014_book.pdf

I do believe one not only needs a vigorous lifestyle approach to removing parasites, not just occasional treatment. Like 1-2 years continual. Also parasites grow and require heavy metals, so detoxing those helps substantially as well. Reccomendation here is micronized Zeolite
https://www.amazon.com/Zeolite-Powder-Pound-Less-Than-Clinoptilolite/dp/B07WPF4KDX
If it's not micron sized then it does not pass into the blood stream. This will add another significant level of clearing.
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>>208
Lol. By which I meant, I contributed almost everything in the chud's guide to biohacking thread. 

CDS is something I have run and wasn't convinced of the merit of. People do get parasites, biofilms, candida and brain worms (toxo like I mentioned), but running an oxidizing agent long term does not seem smart. The community around it is also quite whacky, I am exempting you but generally I don't just take their word for things. 

I do have trouble understanding who exactly would have such huge issues with biofilms, parasites etc. You can run a cycle of fenben, do a CDS cycle or two,  and finish with the CDF program of NAC (good for metal chelation), Black sneed (kills toxo), and oregano (which just kills things) I suppose. But as a way of life beyond maybe once a year. Well, I wouldn't do that personally
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can you explain why running an oxidizing agent on your body 24/7 would be good for any of these illnesses in a straightforward, mechanistic way? Too much oxidation is not good for your system and should not be chronic in administration
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>>215
It's a selective oxider.
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>>216
Yes, but obviously there is a limit to the oxidization you would want? I have heard this claim about the selectivity of CDS on the alternative social media and am not sure if I even believe it. 

T. ran protocol 1000 for about 3 discontinuous weeks. Didn't feel very good while doing it, concerned about brain health. No idea why someone would want to run this for a longer period. Pol latches on to some esoteric supercure supplements and hypes them out of proportion I find. For example NAC, which is a nice glutamate modulator and will scrub the metals from your cells but is not something ordinary people need more than a few months of.
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>>217
The Antiparasite protocol is morning & night enemas for 18 months, plus internal and other supplemental things. I had friends doing other intensive parasite protocols and they also testified to me around the 2 year mark is when it finally got the largest ones out.

Now when it comes to practice. Listen to your body. It does cross the BBB but that is not a bad thing, simply a thing to be mindful of when mixing with other stuff (stricter diet).
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>>218
>18 months schizocored
surely you are in jest. Just do colon hydrotherapy for that, it'll all come out very quickly if you've run even a rudimentary antiparasitic treatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc2J_LR23ng
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>>219
Not all parasites are intestinal you fool. Do some reading, if you care.
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>>220
I've looked into it. And I don't find most of this credible beyond a once yearly kind of thing you might run for a couple of weeks. Or up to a month I suppose for toxo, although I probably wouldn't run cds for that.
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