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In this Thread, we will discuss All aspects of baking. The Staff of life has been stolen from you, and what once nourished, now often poisons.
In order to assist our Frens in not only saving money, but increasing healthy habit, this thread is for exchanging recipes and techniques, and welcomes ALL aspects of breads from pizza, to loaves, and even cake and pies.
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SECRET THREAD!!

Not only does making your own bread, pizza, calzones, crumpets, sausage rolls, Burger buns, cakes and cookies,Etc. Save you money once you get set up, it's WAY HEALTHIER than even the premium breads&baked goods you can purchase at most places.

Keto and Paleo diets are all well and fine, for some, but it's become a religion that tends to post papers that are truly only aggregates of Actual studies rife with the words "Possibly" and "MAY" and the like; claiming that grains and gluten are actually poisons, when they are not, but do have defensive chemicals, which we have ADAPTED TO. In addition, one needs to look at the chemical additives to the foods themselves, like seed oils and Sucralose-a proven Geno-toxin and gut flora killer.
No, there is a deeper systemic problem with the food supply that covers the entire range from Vegan to strict Carnivore, whether the Frankensoy abominations of the former, to the Ractopamine and other vile toxins and drugs in conventional livestock.
I believe Most American farmers are good people, who care about both their crops and livestock; but when 1/5th of all pork production here is owned by Chinks, and Multinational Kikes have leveraged and lied their way into all seed production, and AG Chemicals,(they get a tidy profit from the Pharma back-end too, What with all the Type2 diabetes, Degenerative GI and obesity based "palliative" drugs that the "patient" must take for the rest of their lives,) some of the current standard practices and lobbied "GCS-Generally Considered Safe" cause even the well meaning to pass on toxic products unwittingly.

This is NOT a thread for discussing the merits of Carnivore or Vegetarian diets; NOR Shitposting or TROLLING.
                                       I will have you REMOVED AND/OR B&.

Regardless of what works BEST for YOU I think we can all agree that WHATEVER the diet, it should be as free as possible from industrial toxins, AG chems that slowkill, and "Food additives" which only sicken and fatten, enriching the coffers of the Medico-Pharma-Insurance racket.
While it's true that many of the foods that are touted as ORGANIC are not any better than conventionally grown ones, This is NOT TRUE of grains and flours which are often finished by being oversprayed multiple times with Glyphosate products as a desiccant. Corn and Grains ARE NOT WASHED before processing, and truly, NON-GMO labels mean fuck-all when the product is soaked in poison anyway. You may be shocked to find out that even NON-GMO cane and beet sugars are sprayed down with roundup as a chemical ripening agent, just so the ((( sugar companies ))) can pull a 6% increase in final product.

The good news is, Organic Flour doesn't have to be that expensive, and bread/baked goods you prepare yourself are 20x the quality at 1/10th the price of finished goods.

In this thread, we'll discuss methods of baking, trade links and videos, go over Baker's percentages, and the tools and equipment needed from bare bones, to high end.
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Some of my favorite Channels for Bread/Baked goods:

https://www.youtube.com/@KingArthurBakingCompany/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@JohnKirkwoodProFoodHomemade

https://youtu.be/9fWzWpL5g6w

https://youtu.be/v9tPXTlbYxM

https://youtu.be/ElJFy8ACwEA
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BASIC BITCH PIDZER DOUGH

4C good flour (AP works fine, but you get a better crust from flour with at least 11½% protein content)
1 t. salt
1 t. dry active yeast (1 pkg. works fine as well)
1½C warm water(110°-115°F)
3T. good olive oil
pinch sugar(optional)

Mix warm water and yeast,(optional pinch of sugar too.) and let rest for 5 minutes(just to make sure it's active)
Mix flour and salt together in a large bowl. make a well in the flour and add yeast water and olive oil.
Mix until it is well incorporated, then dump it onto a floured surface and knead for ~10 minutes.
https://youtu.be/BJiucv88flM
Lightly oil another bowl and put the kneaded ball of dough in it in a wark spot,( in the oven with ONLY the light on works great,) to rest until it doubles. (1-2 hours)
That's it, now you have enough dough for 2 pidzers, or 1 pidzer and an "Order" of breadsticks.
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Simple Irish Soda Bread

This is a recipe I use. Pic related. As a side note for anyone interested I've found that adding a single egg to the mixture before stirring adds fullness and fluffiness to the final bread product within the crust. The recipe without an egg is quite good but it will be crumbly and less thick of a loaf.
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>>73
BASED!!
TY, Fren. I've done Irish soda bread several times, and while I like it, I haven't made it in YEARS 
and I always made it with Rye flour.
I'm leaning towards trying both ricecooker bread and possibly, some sort of "DryBAO", maybe BBQ chicken or maybe a beanthread noodle/veg/chicken stuffing..
that's going to be after the 6Gorrilion other food projects on the backburner probably though.
I still have to make Raviolis sometime this week.
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>*I'd always made...
>>75
No problem fren. The recipe says all-purpose flour but I've used multiple different flours in baking recipes like it and none of them came out bad. Keeping with my rice-eccentric cravings I've made soda bread with white rice flour before and it came out fine. Cheers to your attempt with Rye. Please though for the love of all that is delicious do not wrongly measure the baking soda by eye-balling it and put too much in. I did that the first time and because I don't waste any food I forced myself to eat a loaf of bitter bread. Please use a 1/2 teaspoon.
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>>77
Checked!
Nosir... I view baking as Science first, art second, and other cooking as mostly the reverse.
I had been a long time OLDSKOOL baker,(since I was ~10,) in measuring things out in cups and spoons, but as I got into Baker's percentages more and more, it just made more sense to weigh out ingredients on a scale.
I mean, not always, I still have the "Feel" for pizza dough and the No-Knead dutch oven rounds so I can do it by measure and dump, but New recipes I go by the numbers at least twice, then draw from experience to tweak it.
*BTW, YOUR thread is the very first to get a new pasta on the site, as far as I know.
Congrats!
The Troll unwittingly did ya a solid, kek!
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>>88
Had to step away for a number of days but thank you sir for your science-based approach to baking so as to avoid my fate when baking that bread. Also pastas were never my foray but if some thread of mine goads someone else into creating something that brings positive fame and notoriety to this site then I am all for that kind of pasta. Take care as we both post into the future.
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>>124
>into creating something that brings positive fame and notoriety to this site
LOL! I know...I know...
It's so weird being able to pick out the DramaFags/Shitstirrers from their post styles.
Truly, It seems that JacKiril-(a minor player,) has pulled that insouciant faggot Doggee into his Sphere on DOxsCORD and JewTub-- Works well enough for me.
All the accusations and shit-stirring came from only 3 anons, all else were just, like me, players and accomplices--I mean by that, I kept up YellerPissDoggee's engagement by replying to him.

Ah well. It's probably good that those two are sucking each other off about fingertip push-ups. If they stay away long enough, the effortposters can come back.
All that shit about Hunnypots and Glowniggers was inspired by Jackal mostly, The Buwgarian(sic) who sees Glowies and Feds under every rock, even though he lives almost 6000 miles away(5700-5800, depending)

The saddest thing is that this whole shitstorm drove away a lot of good posters who didn't want to put up with the childish bullshit.
They may come back eventually.

In the MEANTIME we have a pretty blank canvas to work with before we get the next washthrough of posters-(for good or Bad, Who knows?)

>Had to step away for a number of days
This is probably the best course of action for the time being--there isn't much going on.
BTW, Happy St. Patrick's Day!
I am going to make the sodabread to go along with the Aldi-purchased, slow-cooker corned beef and cabbage that's rolling along right now.
I just need to go and get buttermilk.
*PROTIP:Tomorrow there should be a bunch of deeply discounted corned beef--like, a 3pound pack for $8, and they freeze GREAT.

I made a printer friendly version of the recipe as well:
>pic
Check out the IceCream thread next door too, That's mine as well.
I may make a thread for several DIY things, Pickled stuff, fermented stuff, candied stuff, homemade soda, etc.
You'd be shocked at just how easy candied ginger is, and the WASTE product? Ginger syrup--That is to say there **IS NO WASTE PRODUCT,(well, maybe the ginger peelings.)
Anyway, I've been maintaining /ck/ from the beginning and I'll probably keep doing it regardless of the turbulence on other boards.
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Kek!
 Forgot my Namefagging...but you knew anyway, I'm sure since I'm not hiding my post style here.
>>124
look man we got to learn how to make a real pasta from scratch to stay ahead of the pasta cabal who are inflating the prices with highly processed pseudo flour keeping our faces bloated and our bottoms on the toilet.
Whole wheat pasta and noodles mayhaps. i should get one of those pasta rollers and play with it a little, see what comes out of it.

>>125
that bread is looking majestic, how long are you proofing it for? mine only really proofs when it's been in the fridge for a day. it's either hard as fuck or stays flat.
Even got a bread tray so i can bake sandwich bred like you just posted. But man, i never got it to look like how you did it there.

just HOW?
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>>127
>we got to learn how to make a real pasta from scratch to stay ahead
Kek, different kind of Pasta.
copypasta like 3-for-free from 4chins/ck/:
>**For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.

One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".

Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.

I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.**

...But yeah, making your own pastas is much easier than most people think.
I found a decent enough pasta roller for $8 at the Goodwill Store and even though I originally bought it for mandolining my own tobacco, I have yet to grow or cure any at my current location.
it's way easier to use a roller, but you can easily make pasta without one, just using a rolling pin.
>>127
>that bread is looking majestic
I think that batch was only about an hour in a warm kitchen.
Just don't involve the fridge AT ALL, make sure your yeast is active and you aren't killing or retarding it with too hot or too cold of liquid. 110°-115°F is the sweet spot,(just noticably warm but not hot to a dipped in finger--better yet get a thermometer) the loaves of NO-Knead bread, baked in the Cast iron dutch oven are not like that at all, since you just dump everything dry together, cold and stir, then add the water, also cold--the difference is that it has 8 hours to grow and also develop the gluten matrix on it's own through enzymes,etc.

Honestly, those loaves were intended for sammie bread, and were a milk bread, but I wasn't at all happy at how the bread held up for sandwiches other than grilled cheese or just toast.
The no-knead was MUCH more resilient for sandwiches, could be sliced thinner, and didn't fall apart as easily while holding it.
I had similar results with my "Bake-A-Round" experiments. Because the pyrex tube directed the "Stranding" and growth of the bread, you had the right shape, but a VERY porous slice that would bleed through any condiments or meat juices.
Verr Disappoint. 
I was using King Arthur AP flour for the loaf pan loaves, at 11.5% protein, a higher protein content or perhaps adding a couple Tblsps. of Vital Wheat Gluten (should be easy to find,) would make it better.
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>>128
>one hour in the kitchen
what the fuck, i think the strain of yeast i have is simply retarded then. I had a suspicion that it may have been either the yeast, a lack of yeast or the temperature that was causing the shitty state of my bread, was even adding sugar thinking that was the flaw or that somehow the flour i used was lacking in the protein department.
My GF also has sublime risen bread even though she's been at it not too long ago.
Also, indeed the Dutch oven bread ( no knead) has also been very superior to the other breads i have made thus far, even though i'm practically forced to keep it in the fridge for a day if i am to hope for even a slightly softer bread.
I'll try messing with the temperature some more based on what you've said.
Also that circular bread was insanely interesting, i have no idea where you found that but i think it might be very useful if you were to bake them into crisp bread or somehow dehydrate them somewhat into crackers.
maybe use their porosity to your advantage and inundate them with garlic butter as you serve them.
i can see uses there.
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>>128
also that (copy)pasta thing was a mistake on my part KEK. us being in /ck/ didn't help one bit.
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>>129
>i think the strain of yeast i have is simply retarded then
Probably.
Yeast can be pretty resilient.
What brand are you using and did you proof it?
Also, SALT can kill it, but I have never had that problem.

>>130
Saul Goodman..
you aren't wrong about making your own pasta though.
For a long time I'd try to find imported pastas from Italy, Europe,etc.
Turns out it didn't matter since they were using just as much Glyphosate as we do here, FFS!
ONLY Spain has jealously guarded they food supply, apparently, even France, FUCKING FRANCE, The FOOD SNOBS! when last tested for Glyphosate residues tested at 100% of those tested having notable levels of Glyphosate,(RoundUp)

Making your own with either ORGANIC semola or “00” flour, eggs and water is the ONLY way other than buying premade Organic.
Glyphosate Food Teasting Report:
https://litter.catbox.moe/tot378.pdf
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>>131
*NOTE: that litterbox link is ONLY good for 3 Days
get it while you can if you want.
It's not very highly technical.
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>>131
>Also, SALT can kill it, but I have never had that problem.
I had not considered this seriously. I might consider adding the salt at a later stadium just to see if there is an improvement.

I'm using active dry baker's yeast from Turkey, should probably be fine since they make good bread.
Still though the issue of it rising too slowly. Had also tried and used wet yeast which is sold here. Stinks like shit but the resulting bread that I get is pretty much the same. I don't know man. maybe i need to invest more time into this in understanding my flour ratio's and seeing which ones have which protein content because clearly something is off about it if you're getting bread like that and i'm getting bread that rises slightly and more resembles high density bread with minimum puff.
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>>133
never heard of it, but that should be fine--maybe just do the wet proof(heat your liquids to 110°-115°F(43°-46°C) and make sure it foams up into a "Head" for 5 minutes first.
> i'm getting bread that rises slightly and more resembles high density bread with minimum puff
One other possibility:
<the Yeast is FINE
<The salt content is FINE
<The tap water is KILLING IT
do you have good water? That seriously can make ALL the difference. New Yorkers are so fucking cocky about their pizza crust, and one reason is strangely they have GREAT water.
(the cheese and flour plays a big part too, but..)

Is your tap water pretty hard or chlorinated?
Try boiling a pot/kettle of water and letting it cool, then using that.
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>>132
Indeed.. Glyphosate is used absolutely everywhere and exported absolutely everywhere. Ukranian grain in Europe afaik is saturated with this garbage Luckily Romania is backwater enough for the local producers to be selling what is essentially organic for bargain bin prices. But you are never sure what kind of stuff they used to produce it.
I'm pretty sure glyphosate is a neurotoxic endocrine disruptor and contributing to the world's tranny epidemic and up there with hexane used by the seed oil cartel.
I might consider investing in a good manual grinder and mixing my own flours, we'll see in the near future anon.

>>134
>The tap water is KILLING IT
This I also considered in my longlist of things that may or may not have fucked up my bread.
The water we have here comes from the mountains and it's very much hard water and chlorinated, though i have it pass through a filter before use for cooking.
I think this might simply be insufficient. I will give it a try and use the boil first method as well.
I have a feeling that this might be it since it's the one thing that has been consistent throughout my attempts, the ((( Water ))).
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>>135
Yeah, I was really shocked at just how widespread MonSatano, (Now ((( Bayer ))) ) really was/is even though I'd been spreading exacly this kind of info on the chans and other places for the last 8+ years.
FFS, They even use it to "Chemically ripen" BOTH sugarcane and sugar beets--all to get a paltry extra 6% yield of final product.
At least in Romania you guys still have farmers using traditional methods, even though I'm sure those numbers are dropping.
Only VERY Smol scale hippies are doing that stuff here, but if we collapse, hopefully there will be a resurgence after the bodies have all rotted away and there's a modicum of stability..
>IF
Truly, the Grainmill is a tool I NEED to get. IDKW I haven't yet, maybe $$$? I've been aware of the need for at LEAST 17 years.
Seems like this topic would make a GREAT thread:
+Apocalypse Cooking and Food Generation+
If you were to make it I'd totally contribute
*(PLEASE be sure to include barefoot Romanian cuties!)
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>>138
>+Apocalypse Cooking and Food Generation+
>If you were to make it I'd totally contribute
>*(PLEASE be sure to include barefoot Romanian cuties!)
This is actually a great idea for a thread not gonna lie, self sustaining food generation cut off from all modern amenities and the ABCD>Z process towards achieving it yourself. I'll give it a look, have to wagie tomorrow so i can't promise it comes today.
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>>139
Take your time, that's the luxury of slow boards on a relatively dead site,(for now)
I mean, look at my OP ITT, It was a hidden board for 2 months, kek!
I've got tons of good info on that subject.Seems like a natural.
<So you're farming during the Zombie apocalypse..  Here's 10 ways to get the most out of canned goods, living dead scarecrows and boobytraps!
*Just an Idea for the Halloween General
Hope the shift goes quick and smoothly for ya tomorrow.
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That's me BTW, I'm just fucking with Doge ATM. I forgot about my VPN.
kek!
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>>140
>>141
kek got you anon, cheers.
Luckily my job is piss easy and i just read all day, the being there part is not so easy.
It'll definitely be tomorrow, i'll baekk.
Godspeed meanwhile anon
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>>144
G'Night fren.
See ya later!
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I have no idea what this pic was even supposed to be.
maybe a pasta roller? No, I already posted that.
No idea why it didn't come out then.
No need to reply...
GN
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>>77
I made the soda bread today, I didn't get any pics of the process since the kitchen was a bit chaotic, but I'll take one now of the finished product. I doubled it and baked it in a cast iron pan for 25 minutes after the original 10@450°F

It went well with the corned beef and cabbage,(with potatoes and carrots, all cooked in the corned beef liquid in the last half hour)
I'm going to try it with rye flour next time, it really does give it a nuttier taste.
Whole wheat is good too.
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>>129
I feel I should also have mentioned that it was a 2 rise process.
>let the kneaded dough rise the first time~ an hour or 2
>Punch down and shape for the loaf pan--Roll or fold in 3rds, then fold the ends under then put into the buttered pans
>lit rise again for an hour
>slit tops, brush with butter or eggwash and bake

I was only referring to the 2nd rise, Sorry if that was confusing.
So, now we're even with mistakes, Kek!
Don't give up. I'll bet it's the water from what you've said. Maybe try a batch using bottled water as a test.
I usually would use RedStar of Fleishman's from a jar, but years ago I bought a brick of Saf-Instant bakers yeast, and that little bastard lasted me 4 years with almost no loss of vitality.
So you're the bread Nazi huh?
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>>175
>*FUMES SILENTLY...*
>*LEFT EYE TWITCHES*
And then...
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>>175
Nah...
Just A redpilled White guy trying to let muh peepoo know that they're being poisoned..
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>>177
Is it true that brominated shit oil is flamer retarded?
Kek...I did think it was funny that (you) spelled shit stirring correctly, thoughbeitever
What are your thoughts on leavining, or whatever the Jews were talking about?
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What do you mean?
I have at least 2 different kinds of leavening ITT.
The kikes were just trying to be "Specially symbolic" with their whole"Oy Vey! ven vee were IMPRISONED in Egypt,(more likely kicked out-but for the fact that the Israelites were NOT Ashkenazi jews,) vee dint even have time to let the bread rise!"

It's bullshit "Rabbinical food laws" designed for easy accusation of infraction for extracting "fines" or worse.
Kosher (pesach) Matzohs are made of only flour and water and MUST be baked within 18 minutes of mixing.
This shit just exemplifies the neurotic control freak nature of jews given a little power.
One can imagine a rabbi ruining a baker he didn't like, simply because...reasons.
https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/seasonal/392/matzo-how-it-is-made-and-how-to-differentiate-between-those-that-are-acceptable-and-forbidden-for-use/

https://oukosher.org/passover/articles/matzah-101/

The process of yeast fermentation is a God-Given process, both for bread and for alcohol. 
I wouldn't doubt half of the laws are in place due to jews jewing other jews. The Biblical food laws,(Leviticus,) made sense at the time for a nomadic people with scant water resources.
The expansion of those into a money making industry just from selling kosher stamps,(often strong-armed into place by judges or threats of boycott,) or bizarre laws that restrict kikes from free action, just seem like the embodiment of pilpul in order to either trick God with cleverness, or fuck over other jews by "catching them breaking the laws"
Also, the amount of absurd jobs for a privileged class like Watching the grain from harvest to grinding, cutting off the fat from animals,(forbidden to eat for some sandnigger reason??) and special "inspectors" overseeing kosher shit, and of course getting paid stupid amounts of money for these dubiously "must have" services.


TL;DR: FUCK THE KIKES!, I like my breads and baked goods leavened EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK

*Video is a great example of how fucking stupid these kikes are.
Everything about it is a FAIL yet this fucking yenta uploads the garbage anyway.

https://youtu.be/gkDlWCJqIaU
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Here's the recipe for sourdough starter. It's ready in two days, three tops depending on your room temp. Still makes me laugh some fags on 4fags thought the process took two to three weeks lmao.

Ingredients
◘ 1 apple
◘ honey
◘ hot water

Process
◘ quickly wash the apple with water
◘ dice it, keep the skin, remove the seeds (around 170g/6oz total weight) and put in a bowl
◘ add some honey (aroung 30g/1oz)
◘ add enough hot water to cover the apples (aroung 300g/10oz and aroung 45-50°C/113-122°F)
◘ smash the apples a bit with your hand to make the process faster
◘ plastic wrap the bowl, and poke a few holes with a toothpick
◘ leave at room temp for around 48h tops. when ready the juice should taste acid, the smell sting the nose slightly, and visually have some foam

◘ once ready, filter the apples, keep the water/juice
◘ add 250g/9oz of the water/juice to the bowl you used to ferment
◘ add around 150g/5.3oz high gluten flour or first clear flour, mix well with your hand. 
◘ scrape the sides as to not have a crust formation, plastic wrap it and leave it at room temp for 24h

That's it. You birthed your sourdough starter, give it a name and keep it alive.

for the first feed
◘ keep 200g/7oz of the sourdough starter
◘ add 100g/3.5oz hot water 40°C/104°F
◘ add 150g/5.3oz high gluten or first clear flour
◘ plastic wrap it, let the fermentation start for 1h then you can keep it in the fridge if you don't use it right away


You can use other fruit such as saisins, passion fruits and whatnot.
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Hey medi-kit Fren! I see you've found the very first thread on /ck/
I appreciate the recipe, as this thread was sorely lacking one.
I usually don't bake or even buy sourdough, as the common one in the states is the  ÜberTart ,SanFrancisco style, and it's not my preference. But the starter you present here is more of a "Cider barm" and I'll bet the flavor would be more to my liking.
I'm still baking 2 loaves of the cast iron dutch oven bread weekly, and have been playing around with hydration and ferment time.
I wonder what bread baked with champagne yeast fed on apple juice would be like--I may have to give it a shot.

Thank you again Fren for adding a missing piece to this thread.
Bone apple teeth!
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>>578
This one, just the starter, smells like apples but once you use it in the bread it tastes just like normal sourdough. Never had SF style sourdough so i can't tell but here's the protocol i followed when i made sourdough bread maybe it's less tart, in case you want to try it.

Process
◘ Get a good spoonfull of the live sourdough (around 20g/0.7oz)
◘ add 50g/1.76oz flour (try half ap flour half rye for a nice twist) and 50g/1.76oz water
◘ mix and let at room temp
◘ wait for it to rise (around 3 to 5 hours)
◘ prepare the flour water salt mix around 30min before the sourdough rise peak
◘ get flour with at least 11% protein
◘ i make 500g/17.637oz breads and use the supermarkets rye(10%)/high gluten flour (90%) premixed packs but you can mix or not at the ratio that you like 
◘ add 11g salt and mix 
◘ add 370g water at room temp (if the flour has more protein you can use more water, if it has less use less water)
◘ mix
◘ once all the flour is wet leave covered (with a wet towel or cling film) for 20 min
◘ add 100g/3.5274oz sourdoug to it mix to homogenise, ferments starts, takes around 5h depending on room temp, the hotter the quicker yada yada yada
◘ reactivate your sourdough and leave it in the fridge for next time
◘ during the next five hours make stretch and folds the four sides of the bowl if that makes sense like vidrel four or five times (wait 45min-1h no need to be psychorigid)
◘ before putting it in the fridge ball it like second vid, cover the ball with the bowl you used before and leave the ball covered for around 30mins
◘ prepare your banneton or salad bowl, flour it 
◘ repeat the ball making and put it upside down in the floured banneton
◘ flour the top, cover with cling film or damp cloth
◘ leave in the fridge during the night, again no stress it can stay 8h or 24h

Dutch oven cooking
◘ preheat oven and the opened dutch oven at 260°C/500°F for around 25-30min (depends on your oven) 
◘ 25min later remove the banneton from the fridge, unmould the ball in the dutch oven
◘ just before putting it in the oven make scarify the bread (slice it with a razor blade) 
◘ put the lid in the oven for 240°C/464°F for 20min
◘ 20min later remove the lid and cook for another 20-30min depends how much you like your bread to caramelise 
◘ remove from dutch oven, place on a raised grate and let cool for at least 1h befor cutting it (most important part) 
◘ enjoy


These days i mostly use the sourdough for pizza dough and it's also really tasty.
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Recipe for “Russian bread”, published by the Reich Ministry of Food in 1942:
50% Rye Meal
20% Sugar Beet Pulp
20% Cellulose (Wood Flour)
10% Straw or Leaves Flour
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>>594
Truly, A big part of why I created this thread is that it's not terribly removed from bread in the U.S.
>80%(and falling) Glyphosate soaked wheat
>10% HFCS from Glyphosate soaked corn
>???% Soybean oil and meal, from Glyphosate soaked soya beans
>???% Cellulose powder
>Sucralose

Certainly it's not on par with wartime rations, for prisoners of war and Forced labor, but this seems to be an obvious jewish hitpiece:
>The living conditions of prisoners of war and forced laborers differed greatly. Work in industry was usually harder than in agriculture. This was also reflected in the diet: at the lower end of the allocation quantities were forced laborers from Russia and Ukraine. In Halle, these were the women, men and children in the Künsebeck forest camp. Severely malnourished people were occasionally transferred to the farms for strengthening.

>Contempt for humanity speaks from the recipe for "Russian bread", published by the Reich Ministry of Food in 1942:

>    50% rye meal
>    20% sugar beet pulp
>    20% cell flour (wood flour)
>    10% straw flour or leaves

 That neglects to mention that the Reich had been dealing with it's own food and supply shortages from the massive bombing campaign by the RAF and from the Russian bombing campagn a year prior:

>The Soviet Union started a bombing campaign on Berlin on 8 August 1941 that extended into early September. Medium Navy bombers, accompanied from 12 August by Army bombers, conducted ten raids from Saaremaa island to Berlin with 3–12 aircraft in each raid, fifty in total reaching Berlin.[18] Heavy Army bombers, operating from near Leningrad, executed one raid to Berlin on 11 August, with only few machines reaching the target. In total in 1941, Soviet aircraft dropped 36 tonnes (79,000 lb) of bombs on Berlin. Combat and operational losses for the Soviets tallied 17 aircraft destroyed and 70 crewmen killed.
>contempt for humanity
Considering that the Russians had already starved it's own people to the tune of 1.8M and put many of the others in Gulags 10 years prior, who can say if it was better or worse?
I'm admittedly ignorant of much of the un-propagandized history of those areas, as most all of us are, but my brief look through ((( Wikipedia ))) gave me pause, as it was so clearly manipulated to maintain "The EVIL NAZI" myth.
One word...
Holodomor
Either way, WAR IS HELL, and certainly the discussion of food additives is welcome here.
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Still have to try other protocols and recipes but for the lightly burned picrel pizza. 

<Dough for one pizza

◘ 150 flour 
◘ 100g water 
◘ 9g sourdough starter 
◘ 5g salt

Recipe assumes that the starter is ready and active.

1. Mix up the water and flour for a ~1 hour autolyse. 
2. Add the sourdough starter, mix well and let it rest for ~15 minutes. 
3. Add the salt, mix well and let it rest again for ~15 minutes. 
4. Knead the dough for 15 minutes and shape it into a tight, smooth  ball. Let it sit covered at room temperature for about 10 hours,  depending on your starter and room temperature. During the first 3 hours  of the 10 hour period, do a few stretch & folds. 
5. Once well risen, shape into balls and refrigerate for couple days. 
6. 3 hours before baking take the dough balls back to room temperature.
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>>615
That Structure in #4
Damn! please post what oven you are using.
TY for the recipe.
As per post 88, here is a Basic rundown on Bakers percentages:

https://youtu.be/32FiQqTn6DQ

https://youtu.be/v9tPXTlbYxM

*threadly reminder:
There is an excellent Dessert thread here:
>>>/ck/491
This is the moar appropriate place for cakes and other dessert baking posts.
OP has been tearing it up with Haute cuisine tier enteremets.
Seriously...
levels above what you'd find on 4cu/ck/s
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>>616
Got into the pizza game with a Gozney Tread less than two months ago.
Gozney just released that oven around that time and it ticked every box i wanted. I don't have any of the accessories though. Any oven that goes up to 500°C/900°F will be golden, just have to look what you want from it, quick heat up/cool down, big thermal mass for tens of pizzas one after the other, big sized pizzas, only NY style pizza or only Neapolitan or both, rotating ston etc.
You can also make, from what my research showed but looked too tedious for me, Neapolitan pizzas in a home oven.
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>>619
GF almond flour pizza is what I make. Will post the recipe, pics the next time I make it.
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>>620
>GF almond flour pizza is what I make
Never tried it but sounds tasty and interesting. Awaiting dem pidser pics. Ever tried with pea flour or walnut flour?
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>Gozney Tread 
$500 is a pretty penny, but looking at the site, it looks worth it.
>Neapolitan pizzas in a home oven.
I'll bet I could make a pretty good go of it with a conventional gas oven and a 20# propane tank with a weed burner.

Another point to ponder:
I'll bet OP wouldn't mind if we posted stone oven plans here.
(kek)
You might consider giving this a shot, (GF is fine ITT, as in my OP, I acknowledge we have some gluten intolerant Frens,) it uses GF Caputo flour:
https://youtu.be/PjxC3vyUMOs
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Also, while $12 (US) is a bit pricey for 1 Kilo(2.2lbs in Freedom units) I've known a few GF guys who, even though they would suffer for days afterward, would eat breads and pizza because they still LOVED it.
No need to torture yourself to enjoy a nice crispy pizza once a week(still WAY less than delivery pidzer)

https://caputoflour.com/products/caputo-gluten-free-flour

Forgot to add:
This recipe apparently makes ~ 12/12" pizzas
seems worth it.
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>>624
I never post in /ck/, whether here or on other chans, but I just want to say I appreciate all you effort-posters. You make this board very comfy to lurk.
>>622
Lmaoing at the advert pic.
>$500 is a pretty penny
It's not the cheapest. For more than half there is the Vevor 13 inch propane at $126 on amazon USA and i guess it bakes Neapolitan pizzas right, you just won't be ecstatic like Stacy is in that pic.

>>624
I find sourdough more digestible than yeast based breads. It's nice for people with Celiacs to have an  alternative, albeit a costly one.
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