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>first we maliciously flag neutral actors as unnecessarily dangerous ones, simply for expressing their opinions
>then we create fake and controlled op front groups for "protests" which can never get anywhere, specifically as a honeypot
>if the actor takes that choice, they'll be sucked into a deeper and deeper quagmire of system attacks until that option fails
>if the actor chooses not to take the controlled op, we spam them with material to agitate and disorient them
>then we attempt to introduce dangerous contraband into their feeds, such as manuals for bombs and various other crap
>we continuously agitate the target until they become further more removed from society, thereby causing more "cause for concern"
>then we maliciously attack using the very protective measure taken as a rationale, while engaging in state sponsored hacking and other attempts to demoralize and subdue the actor
>if the participant is ever so stupid as to "start a group" this is easily infiltrated and either pushed to radical violence or turned into controlled op "centerism"
>we can always grift off their rhetoric without doing a fucking thing to advance any of the meaningful goals in any case, that is costless and cheap
>this is "defending democracy" from the very population who is now completely disengaged, angry at the system, and distrusting of everything
(Centerism, of course, is a soft surrender to the system and never goes anywhere)

Report Conclusions: All our interventions have actually done is anger, annoy the subject while preventing any authentic democratic expression within the process. We'll pay our CIA cutouts and other third party proxies to then present their grievances as "legitimate concerns", knowing those cutouts are simply there to lead the opposition on a wild goose chase and provocation. This will fail as well once others learn of it, so in the end we're just going to have to collapse under our own inertia force by having created such deep resentments to begin with. It seems like every intervention we do to prevent authentic social forces from expressing grievances just boomerangs 10,20 years later with catastrophic results
- t. Peter Thiel.

So this is how the liberal democratic values world order actually works 🤔
>>57828 (OP) 
Let me see, pretty much everyone in the modern dissident ecosystem is simply a witting or unwitting proxy of this kind of thinking. It's like that old dictim, what was it, "when the public believes a pack of lies we win?"

Unfortunately the widespread use of antivirals caused viral resistance in the second world war, and that antibody resistance eventually causes the disease to take over the host. If I can spot it, anybody can. And from there it'll be the 1960's all over again
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You could always just go outside. You don't have to sit in front of a computer or fingerfuck a phone 24/7. Nobody's making you do that.
I frequently set my phone down and walk away from it. Often, if it makes a noise, I might ignore it in the immediate and just make a mental note to look at it later.

It's possible. You can do it, anon. We all have faith in you.
>>57829
>If I can spot it, anybody can. And from there it'll be the 1960's all over again
I'm not so sure if "anybody" can spot it. I think only neurodivergent people, or youth people who've used internet can spot this stuff. But people that are not net savvy, or are otherwise old, don't know anything. There are literal freemasons who took the vaxx despite all the warning from their daddy Gates, that vaxxes are good way to lower world's birth rates...
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>>57848
It only takes a few who can see to spread the awareness to everybody. That's the power of the memeplex
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>>57848
>freemasons took the vaxx
Just goes to show most of them are puppets themselves.
>>57830
Can't.
No money, everything costs too much now.
It's one of the thing's stagnating the human race by draining momentum.
No outside = no socle internation = birth rate collapse = Civilization collapse.
A Civilization political, economic and military power is directly proportional to the amount and youth of it's population.
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>>57883
I think you’ll miss the amount of freedom you have right now eventually. You should get out and about while you can. You’ll want a partner to get through all this with.
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>>57885
Would love to find a partner.
But think you are underestimating how fucked everything is already.
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>>57890
I bet you have some really nice Swedish chicks, go out and get one. “Looking for partner for the end of the world”. Chop chop.
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>>57890
It’s romantic, sell that as your story to her. Women love being tied up in cute little narratives like television shows (everyone does)
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>>57892
VPN - UK in middle of nowhere

>>57893
Not my experience Women all chase after the bad boy and/or the rich.

Anyway change of subject, what do you think is coming?
That's why I scanning the chan's, I'm looking for  future probabilities.
>>57894

Should be obvious that we are going to have some energy lockdowns. You see how this waffling on the strait of Hormuz is being used to provide COVID-esque “2 more weeks” scenarios that will lead into energy “lockdowns” and rationing policy for fuel and food. They have some new technological infrastructure that they want to flex.
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>>57895
Agreed, same thing I seeing.
Also seeing people going nuts from lack of trust and connection.
Will be exasperated by not being able to trust anything coming through tec.
AI will fake everything to the point of zero trust.
>>57894
As I’ve believed that ICE was never about immigration. It should transition into a press gang or federal operatives within cities. You know hellish doomsday scenarios where we lose our freedoms and get>>57896
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>>57896
Yeah they actually want to get us off our phones, they think it’s done our heads in. I think Nons are going back in your case. Not sure about mine, that should help with your social cohesion though you are going to be on a prison island as usual.
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>>57896
Cookies saved a portion of a much longer post that I was thinking on before sending and posted it anyway. I haven’t been able to use an image board on my phone for 3-4 years now and have become clumsy.
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>>57897
Think ICE is a precursor to enforcing draft like in Ukraine, think US men need to beware.

>>57898
Won't work, the thing they are trying to treat are the symptoms not the cause, people need opportunity to connect through time/money, location and trust.
And trust is hard won and easily lost.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FaSjnn-rYM)

>>57899
Understandable phone's suck for posting.
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>>57901
>Draft
Well I’m not going, not going to go through that  humiliation ritual. It’s very unpopular and they are letting that tension over the draft really build, it would be like intentionally lighting a powder keg across the country. I’ve straddled between thinking ice is draft enforcement or just extra riot police when shit pops off in the floundering cities.

>trust
Turn the power and the net off and it will happen more quickly than you think. I lived in a neighborhood with power outages. People I’d never seen before would all come outside and you could see them all down the street talking to each other. That’s what turning off the power does to communities. If you turned off the net, they wouldn’t even have their phones to collapse into. I think you’d find yourself a girl pretty quick. 

>Vid
Communities form based on need, none of us need each other for basics or social in our cushy modern lifestyle. It will all come roaring back if that was really disrupted. We might be able to truly live again. Now if the blacks are about it’s going to obviously be ugly until they are eliminated and they will be.
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>>57904
>Draft
Same thoughts on that as you, will not fight for the enemy that has systematically betrayed me and mine.
Not sure it matters thin blue line = Thin red smear, When you start getting to them numbers. 

>trust and the Vid
The vid is about trust, men can live simply on there own.
Men only strive for something they believe in religion, family and country.
And all 3 of them have failed Men.
To get men to participate in society again will take more than a stick, and society/government is unwilling to offer any carrots.
And tuning of the net would just Men from one dictation to anther.
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>>57908
Redoing that last line.
And tuning of the net would just move Men from one distraction to another.
To say drawing, reading gardening or other low cost hobby.
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>>57910
Maslows Hierarchy of Sneeds is still a pretty good template in my opinion, look it up. 

physiological (food/shelter), safety (security), love/belonging (relationships), esteem (reputation/competence), and self-actualization (achieving potential).

These needs don’t have to be fulfilled by the traditional Country, Religion, Family but can be. I sound like a fucking communist I know. 

Did you live before smart phones? We went outside because there was fuck all to do. That’s why we had friends and relationships, the girls would do the same. The modern day hermitage of the man, is not the natural state of man, it’s technologically induced. If you rip that framework away, it will return.
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>>57911
Familiar with Maslows Hierarchy of needs, but they will be unable to remove basic needs down to that level without nasty repercussions.
Smart phone = entertainment and there are plenty of other forms of entertainment as I said tec/entertainment symptoms not the cause. (don't really bother with my smart phone except as an audio hub)
Cause is the enshittification of social interaction from culture and government meddling changing belief and behaviour patterns.
and belief and behaviour patterns are a very hard thing to unprogram.
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>>57894
>what do you think is coming?
Reset or Harvest. Think "void century" from one piece, what happened to tontatta tribe members? For the powers calling the shots, it's not about money and power, it's something else.
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>>57916
Chaos beyond what the elites/epstein will be able to control. See too many points of failure with this complex system collapse.
Unfortunately there pride will doom us all them included.
>>57916
There are damn 1200 episodes in that series. I want a gestalt but I can’t sit and watch that much. How do I get up to speed with this esoteric program?
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>>57915
I can’t believe you won’t buy that if we shut the net and electricity down things would right themselves.
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>>57918
Keep meaning too add one piece to my collection, been waiting on it finishing first.... will probably be waiting awhile.  

>>57919
Why would it? The social structures/communities that social interaction rely on have been systematically dismantled.
Shunting off just one form of entertainment will not rebuild them.
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>>57922
The implications of shutting off power and the net are much broader than a loss of entertainment. My thesis is that community  self assembles when it is capable of meeting a need (above). Many needs would arise out of this tragedy(?) and it would all rebuild itself after a brief period of mass starvation, death, and chaos. Organization would naturally fall into place and people physically near you would become important again. Socialization will be come necessary and thereby pervasive. If you do not socialize or form structures you perish. This is in stark contrast to now when everything is delocalized and distant, that is my case for why social structures are less prevalent,.Your sense of belonging is going to come from the role that you play within the community and you will be required to have one. That is why talked about being “needed” in this post >57904
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>>57922
this is hardly the first civilization to collapse and it follows certain patterns; people will either return to traditions that worked, die, or come up with something new that works better. it's already happening, we have parallel societies that function well. no I won't elaborate, figure it out.
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>>57925
And how many people do you think will be left that have the skills both social and survival? that will want/can keep going?
These skills were developed and past down over generations and a lot have been lost,
community might self assembles but it will be over generations it won't just be quick restart so it won't be brief.
Can also see lot of people just ending it as well.

>>57926
Think your also underestimating how badly it will collapse.
We are the first civilisation with multiple WMD of a globe scale in play at the same time,
and shunting off the power will make a lot of people to mentally snap.
after the collapse can very easily see it being a harder environment to survive than it was for our ancestors and at the same time as human being weaker.

Human of the past were a lot more robust both psychology and physical and were nearly wiped out a few times.
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>>57928
>>57928
>And how many people do you think will be left that have the skills both social and survival? that will want/can keep going?

Good fucking question, I was recently looking into the future of A.I. and one of the considerations that is if A.I. took over everything in this fictional scenerio then humanity would lose many of the developed skills that it has spent 100 years developing and maintaining by passing the practice on to the robots, such that there will only be robots that know how to accomplish a thing and humanity will be a species with complete amnesia of its previous accomplishments. I think this idea also applies to your criticism. 
Apprenticeship would have to be an immediate response, and the individuals with those skills would have to be shielded from the chaos. This  is an approach that takes some level of organization and cannot be developed “on the fly”, you would need the resources and intent from the outside to be able to snag the artisans and assemble them outside of the tempest of chaos that would come from a collapse.
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>>57960
And on the other side of the coin you also need people capable of learning and understanding said skills.

To maintain that amount and quality knowledge and skill base you would need a large quantity of people, both high IQ and low violence and the incentives for those individuals to learn and keep going.
The current system and the a collapse of the system would work directly against that.

The current system is selecting for low IQ high violences peoples and a collapse would push even more towards that state.

No matter how I look at it collapse or stagnation will be a disaster,
the only way out of this that will not lead to loss of life, knowledge and skills is a constructive path.

But ones who control means to change this are too ideology controlled by their beliefs.
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>>57975
>To maintain that amount and quality knowledge and skill base you would need a large quantity of people
They’re more than capable sequestering a select group of people that can carry the torch in the event of collapse, I suspect they are already doing so. It’s in their best interest to do it as well, so it is certainly being done
>But ones who control means to change this are too ideology controlled by their beliefs

It’s a project that’s been long in the making, going back in something like that, which may have took a few lifetimes isn’t easy. 

>The current system is selecting for low IQ high violences peoples and a collapse would push even more towards that state.

Yes I’ve had to build that side of me up, so that I’m willing to do what needs to be done. I saw what they were capable of during Covid, and if I wasn’t capable of the same I would be outmatched.
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>>57979
And that would create a monoculture/monopoly.
That kind of closed system would be inherently fragile.

144000, those plans that were written too long ago to be properly viable now,
and as I said I think there are at least a few planet killer WMD made now.
Depending on the type a bunker would not be enough.
back that many people into a conner and one of them will be used.
It's simply odds.

A lets say they succeed all that leads to is a Morlock and Eloi future.
Not a happy end, better to reach for the stars than that.
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>>57993
>And that would create a monoculture/monopoly. That kind of closed system would be inherently fragile.

You would simple splinter the movement geographically, either from the outset, or some time after. This would allow individual cells to grow independently and spontaneously, if stagnation or fragility was your concern.  

>A lets say they succeed all that leads to is a Morlock and Eloi future.

I'm sure that's the case, It could be a reverse Eloi vs Morlock situation as well if there are too many left standing.

> better to reach for the stars than that.

You are talking about some unassailable cataclysm then, and your hopes for using space as an escape is laughable. If you are at the point of fearing human use of WMD as the main threat then you are little further than what I see as the truth of the matter. As I have said cyclical civilizational cycles or as another anon mentioned naturally occurring catastrophe is a far greater threat. Do no let the media bait you into believe Mutually Assured Destruction is the preeminent threat before all others, it was a propaganda driven fear campaign from the outset in my estimation (much has been spoken about this before).
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>>57975
the current system is selecting for people who resemble adult children and oversocialized powertripping women who are ruining everything. The fact that they have dropped standards completely and are bringing in those people is besides the point, since they don't run it.
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>>57998
What I meant by better to reach for the stars was,
It would be better to not let it get to that point in the first place and to start moving off world.
As Einstein said "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought,
but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

And Chaos leads to unpredictable outcomes, It does not matter what their plans are if it all go's tits up.
I was not thinking about low level WMD's, It's been 81 year since Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Can think of few different technologies and week points that are way more destructive than nukes.
All it would take is one or two them being used for it to be all over.

Most of the major problems in the world right now come from mismanagement by the so call elite/epstein class.
What I would want form them to concentrate on technological solutions, not barbarism and stupidity.
From what I can see the one's planing this are split on which path to take.

>>58028
>resemble adult children and oversocialized powertripping women
Agreed, Blackrock and Feminism have done nothing but make the vast majority of men and women miserable.
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>>57828 (OP) 
Great post, saved
>>58052
>As Einstein said
jfc grow up. Einstein was a fraud/plagiarist and completely astroturfed as a genius because he was jewish. The sheep here wear t-shirts with his jewish face on it and revere him as the most supreme intellect. He’s not. Would you let a jew into your patent office?
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>>57830
You rat fucks think everyone can just walk away from what has been done to them?
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>>57830
You're not addressing the topic at all, you're just talking for the sake of talking.
        It's called 'waffling'.
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>>58100
>>58102
>>58107
Glowies alert! Thread derailment active.
by the way guys, this methodology is how the German AFD was turned into a bunch of designed to fail radical glow ops in germany. Why they are able to still sneeringly accuse people who simply believe germany is for germans as nazis, terrorists etc. The govs create the context themselves because they don't want authentic political change. This is how they did politics in deeply corrupted countries in turmoil like Latin America until recently. The sad fact that it's reality in the west for all populist movements worldwide speaks for itself. It's the Iron heel all over again
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>>58122
Yes. Create something, dehumanize it, and then give said label to dissidents (chuds, incels, nazis). 1984 is here
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>>58139
They tried to make Epstein the hero of the dissident right, and only succeeded of convincing the left that we believe that about ourselves. You might have noticed that Trump was using all of our memes and eventually tied into pro-Zionist movement. It failed miserably in my estimation.
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>>58143
Did it really fail miserable? All of right wing grifters, such as quarterring and others, are pro-trump, and some are becoming "pro-christianity" now too, e.g. metokur (part of the whole faux conservative push by Thiel). They tie the losses and victories of these ideas and puppets (like Trump) into people themself, so basically when your "camp" or idea you followed takes a loss, you feel anxiety/depression/demoralized, even if that idea never was used to describe you or your ideas personally and you were only distantly adjacent to it, or if the puppet never cared for you really, it still hurts you. That's why words like chuds and incels exist. Dialetics are just coats the elite class wear and change to accommodate with events of whatever the current zeitgeist is in whichever era, and it's also striking weapon used by them to attack on the minds of people to keep control over the populace.
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>>58150
That shit doesn’t work in me. I was more pissed off than anything else and kept tearing them all down and exposing the plot. My work under smaller creators on YT in the comments have 100% made an impact as well. The shartysphere on YT is full of fucking retards that are without help. It’s like the psychosis induced by becoming a Nazi 3months into browsing 4chin, they are going to be amped up until they are eventually dropped like a sack of potatoes because they can’t help but humiliate their mark, they self shear following through these retarded backwards positions. People who need an e-daddy will flit from one to other, and some will inevitable breakaway from it and wake up. We’re skimming from a fine edge, but that’s where we gather the cream.
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>>58152
But you're in the minority (thus the coming of digital IDs, and increase of censorship in social media platforms and 4chan) , it very much has big effect on wide populace. Whatever the plans/agenda for the grift is it will work, because this is what CIA has been doing for decades, and nobody has stopped them before either. Look how many people took the vaccine (another pandemic is planned), people will always choose comfort over liberty.
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>>58155
This isn’t a slam dunk for the CIA. The stakes are very high right now, and there is no guarantee of total victory for them. The CIA is not eternal (80 years now? lol), they are suffering under the accrued deadweight of cultural rot all the same. they have the technology, but they are ever more out of touch despite shoving their heads inside of the Palantir and declaring they are omniscient gods. I’m not going to underestimate them, but I won’t worship them either.
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>>58155
When Pandora opened the box that released all the ills that would befall the mortals in the realm, only hope remained in the box. This was seen a mercy. The Greeks viewing hope as the most treacherous of forces even sickness, death, envy and greed.
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>>58157
The Greek word for hope is Elpis, blind faith/hope for good or bad. I don’t believe that all is lost, and that I’m subject to blind hope and undergoing the most damning of evils.
>>58156
>The CIA is not eternal
CIA itself might be "relatively recent" if you view 80 years of existence short time (every MSM in the west goes through their tinktank filters), but all of this other gay shit like kikery and masonry (french revolution e.g.) is at least 300 years old or more, and those guys have been buddies with kikes from the beginning. CIA itself is directly operated by mossad/double citizenship kikes, but what you have to keep in mind is what's powering CIA and those other alphabet organizations is the vast military complex, a very big industry/machinery that's no longer in control by US state (just like how the the money is also not in control of US, dollars are borrowed to the state by federal reserve, which is privately owned).
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>>58164
I can only speculate about the inner workings of the CIA. I will introduce as a possibility, that the CIA has been given a level of independence that has led to a splintering from the whole of those organizations that you reference as birthing their foundational principles or mandate. However, has many years to warp itself into something different from the whole, just as the various sects of jewry are like in kind, but not in doctrine.

As a case example we can look at Chabad, which is permissive to Christians to a greater extent than a run of the mill Talmudist, this could be called an adaptive strategy, a splintering from the whole, or a facade. I can agree to any one of those with a straight face. But the divisions between these groups are real and when left alone, these groups grow further apart rather than closer together. This is a consideration. We can all say everyone is working together and it's over. 

Or you can buy into the Idea that it's more nuanced that. Nuance is the new NIGGER word. Why? Because indulging in nuance is seen as a cope, and takes our stated enemy (the jews) and makes the situation much more complex. It's a complexity that removes us from our comfort zone of having a dedicated and singular enemy, and introduces doubt as to their chances of success in their singular goal. It appears on the face of it as hopium but in any other circumstance it is merely a critique of the capability for complex systems and isolated pockets of power to "grow into their own". The most uncomfortable part of this realization is that we aren't fighting a singular entity that when destroyed will take us to the promised land, but a hydra of interwoven agendas that when one falls, the other takes it place.

We need to go back to our roots, and stop huffing the freshly laid paint of Israel is finally being exposed and kikes are on the rope. Nor should we disregard the Idea that kikes are doing this on purpose (There has been much written and spoken to on this subject.), nor that all hope is lost and we are doomed either way. Producing a catch-22 like I mentioned is the operative way to accomplish goals with a built in fail safe. And it would be all to safe to believe that we are dealing with people that are smart enough that it's inescapable. 

>just like how the the money is also not in control of US, dollars are borrowed to the state by federal reserve

You can pimp the federal reserve through the ability to initiate force. Just because they hold the purse strings of the banks specifically doesn't mean that they have everyone everywhere by the balls for their ability to do so.
>>58150
it seems obvious that the American gov is trying to do a cooption job on christian nationalism. They view it as an emerging and dangerous threat to their social order, so they are putting on the garb of being christians and trying to tell those people what to think. 

also fuck off fed I don't read incoherent bullshit
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>>57885
>>57883
Stop beating off to porn and find a heterosexual woman that's not mentally ill has a job and an IQ above room temperature.  Get married have babies. It's not easy to be a father and a husband but it never was nor ever will be. Do it and you will be glad for it.
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>>58189
Far from it cuz, the U.S government is israel owned and occupied it is NOT Christian. Trump is a jew megalomaniac and sacrificing Christians all over the world to suite his jew masters. They are indeed afraid of the WHITE Christian because WE ARE THE MASTER RACE. WE ARE THE ELECT OF HEAVEN
Listen to David Duke and learn
Listen to Ryan Dawson and learn
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>>58205
>Listen to Ryan Dawson
Nah not going to listen to an ashamed crypto jew.
>>58204
Let me stop you right there, go play around with this.
https://igotstandardsbro.com/
And realise that the knife cuts both ways.
Not mentally ill, IQ above room temperature, wants to have babies and and respects what marriage is supposed to represent.
Your are just as delusional as the crazy cat ladies.
>>58205
I mean Trump is clearly aligned with Israel for geopolitical reasons and because of the lobby, it is not any more complex than that. You guys take a valid point of view and then cloak it in schizo garble which is totally unproven which thereby degrades a valid point of view
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>>58236
These politicians are programmed from birth, they go through certain gates/instructors, and in case of trump he's 1/4 or 1/2 jewish himself. It's goes far deeper than "just" lobby, some of them likely have been sexually abused as child to enhance the monarch programming on them/creation of split personalities.
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>>58238
Trump is not Jewish either, I've checked his ethnicity. He's a rich man from new york who was also to my understanding enmeshed in that world very early. So they are essentially part of his set. But everything else you're saying is just well poisoning. 

Israel sponsored breitbart which is deeply connected to creating overseas populism through people like Bannon. Trump got connected inevitably with that form of the zio lobby since that news group was so important to his campaign. In addition to the adelson donors. That's my guess, but he's obviously doing the war for various reasons included donor pressure
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>>58239
His grandmother was jewish, his children are married to jews. He is very much jewish person, there's no way to be more jewish than Trump you'd have to be Zelensky or something. 

>everything else you're saying is just well poisoning
It's not well poisoning if these are the facts, kike
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>>58245
He is not Jewish. His grandmother surname was Kober which means basket in Middle High German, its all on the site https://ancestors.familysearch.org you have linked. Jacob is nothing special, its one of many common names among Whites aswell. You dont have to be Jewish to be a bad person, Trump is simply a malicious, narcissistic retard, it is what it is.
>>58251
Truke. And he's a shabbos goy.
>>58251
>You dont have to be Jewish to be a bad person
But he is jewish. Like I said, Zelensky is probably more jewish than him, but Trump is still a jew.
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>>58253
Holy IQ! Please dont embarass your fellow countryman on OC. Use that bit of a brain you have left.
>>58253
<he's a jew you're a jew everyone's a jew jew
Every fucking thread.
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>>57828 (OP) 
Luigi
>>58251
claiming people we tend to support spuriously as Jewish is a bad faith tactic designed to make people disavow their would be champions. You can see how the only targets (elon, trump, putin, china generally) are simply those types outside the globohomo nafo circlejerk. They would never in a million years use their own well poisoning to actually blame israel
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>>58261
Yes? If someone is a jew, it's fair to point out that them being a jew is why they're behaving like a kike.
>>58266
Trump is nobody's champion nobody is stuck in 2016 anymore
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>>58281
he's about 70% good, 30% bad
>>57828 (OP) 
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never allow for a leader that's a harmful actor, while with humans that's pretty much a given in any system that ages well enough. The cause is always that the system runs best if no one interrupts it. Thus the system tries to create political overreach and subjugation to get ever more aspects of life under its control. This is, of course, exploited by those at the top of the system for wealth and power, especially if there's no one there to oppose them anymore.

Idiotically the system is expected to fix itself by using itself, which is why systems always end by either cratering entirely or uprisings: While everyone trying to fix anything is expected to go the legal route to try to fix a broken system the broken system instead creates beneficial power structures outside of it and thus outside the control of the people trying to fix the broken systems.
Such could be NGOs that receive funding (like the shills operating on tax payer money to spam, disrupt and demoralize on 4chan or anywhere else against the people whose tax money they get), big corporations trying to weasel their way into political influence by mutual benefit (like massive private data theft and user tracking that allows them to sell the data and the government to have it and use it against people they don't like) or glownigger agencies that just do whatever and aren't held accountable for anything because it's secret (9 / 11; shooter grooming or creating terror cells to justify surveillance laws; drug epidemic to finance themselves).

Humans had thousands of years to come up with a system that works. They didn't. And they won't in another few thousand years. The tragedy stems from the majority of people being clueless, careless or indifferent - the NPCs: Willing to take all the nice things that civilization offers without putting accountability and responsibility on the table as a demand. For them it's just: "Follow the protocol". I understand that people want a system that just works, that they can trust, exist in and exist for but that's just not how it is and not how it has ever been. Governments have always killed the majority of their people throughout history, either due to incompetence or aggression. Ironically the competent people with strong opinions that they can properly reason for are constantly removed in any system because they're troublemakers. The public lets it happen because they don't know / care / understand. From then on you get yes-men, incompetence chaos, corruption until it all hits the wall, predictably.

Freedom, reasonable behavior, accountability, transparency. It's not that hard to run a good system. It just doesn't offer any personal benefit to "just do a good job" without getting extra wealth and power. Thus a character trait is needed that understands that this is good enough and is content with it instead of greedy and selfish for that personal gain of wealth and power via sellout / bribe mentality, no matter the harm for others. This refers to functional cogs in a machine that understand the purpose and limitations of their role, as well as the broader scope it serves. Basically a non-greedy leadership that manages well without trying to personally benefit.
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>>58357
that's all very insightful and true. But there has been a massive step forward in government control because of the digital age which previously did not exist, and that's at the heart of the problem.

Governments did not have full personnel dossiers on every single person which were nearly so complete. They did not have the ability to spy on anyone they want, whenever they want. They did not have the ability to camouflage astroturf, send shills to attack social media narratives, and catalogue ideas in real time and they came off the internet and attack them in turn. That's a massive step forward in repressive capacity, which has turned the networked society paradigm which was vaguely libertarian into a big technological prison. 

It's causing people to lose existing social and political technologies. We don't really have much of a distinction between public and private lives if the government is playing hardball and treating everyone in a 5g warfare type paradigm. People have lost the ability to meaningfully speak back or influence government. It's another one of these societal tragedies in the making where the maturity to use the technology has not kept up with the advances. MRNA is arguably another such example, since the consequences are obviously devastating but the awareness of these consequences are still quite limited.

It is funny how, if you just set aside specific issues and talk about what is valuable, pretty much everyone can agree on the same shared principles of what fairness and good government looks like. Anyways, the western system which produced more humane outcomes is nearly over. We cannot assume continually the same social system with the kinds of advances happening, it's all been disruptive and quite negative
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>>58367
I mean the digital lifestyle is almost entirely negative. You get access to unprecedented information, but most of it is crap or noise. You get access to expanded social networks, but you lose your own social circle and truncate your personal development right there. You can talk about whatever you want, but it isn't private at all and is treated as public speech to be policed by government.

Anyways, the jump to active real time LLM policing of the internet is simply the end of how this is going to be used. It simply creates endless mistrust in government because this technology cannot be trusted in everyday hands. Whereas the same basic problem existed at higher levels being able to commit abuse in the 2000's, this has expanded to every single civic authority in essence. The outcome will not end well even if the motives are well intentioned
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>>58368
>I mean
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>>58368
>Anyways, the jump to active real time LLM policing of the internet is simply the end of how this is going to be used

The summary of the leaked palantir intentions sums this stuff up pretty well
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>>58377
I don't care if he's pretending to help us, Alex Karp should have his project shut down and Palatir should be a banned technology on par with how they handled thinking machines in the Dune universe.
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>>58379
>I don't care if he's pretending to help us
He won't and he isn't. The 'racially amorphous' jew with a life-time of anxiety and impending sense of doom about being brutally killed by a righteous mob for carrying out exactly the sort of nation-destroying activities he's been gleefully doing his entire adult life (his own words), is absolutely not on your side.
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>>58404
Right. Karp and the techno bros in Silicon valley are the scariest elite in American politics. Because they are often woke, they are disconnected from the society which hosts them, they are globalist, they are liberal even if it is libertarian. And they also are rolling out nudge style software and total surveillance states to keep people from talking back. We don't need to hurt Karp, we need to take away his keys to the machine and put it behind the wall of official secrecy so nobody who is below top secret ever gets to touch that technology. Mass surveillance is amoral when applied to everyday people
>>58409
None of those things will come to pass, until you have resolved the jewish question. All of the 'tech bros' are jewish, point of fact. 18 out of 20 of the original neoconservatives which led the sand wars in the Middle East are/were jewish, while the rest almost certainly had jewish spouses. 48% of Biden's administration were jewish, despite being ~2% of the population. Our current president, his daughter, all of his grand-children, and his son-in-law / main advisor for decades is jewish.
>We don't need to hurt Karp
Yes, yes you absolutely do. Did you learn nothing from his own words in that interview? Has the posts from the Talmud, Zohar, and Kabbalah taught you nothing at all? This is a racial holy war. If you are in any way of ethnic European heritage, your extinction as Amalek is the desired outcome. That's where all this malice stems from.
>Because they are often woke, they are disconnected from the society which hosts them, they are globalist, they are liberal even if it is libertarian.
That's just called jews, anon. And yes, it really is that simple. None of this will stop with soft-handed means, as your enemy certainly is not doing so. Your extinction is demanded by them.
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>>58411
that's not how I view the issue so stop trying to paint my objection to mass surveillance as some retarded nazi larp
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>>58412
<that's not how I view the issue
Reality does not care how you view the issue. It simply is. I'm going to beat you over the head with this until you get it, nigger.
<retarded nazi larp
Where do you think you are, you retarded mix-raced mutt newnigger? Go look at the banners above each thread sometime.
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>>58412
>>58409
<globalist
<libertarian
<capitalist
<communist
<cultural marxism
<feminism
<freemasonry
<luciferian / satanism
<palantir
<neoconservative
<bankers
Oh, and I'm not done with you yet. All of this is easily discoverable and provable. It's time you woke up and learned what the real world is. Unbelievable that you don't know this in 2026. Don't let me catch you doing your 'muh nazis' bullshit ever again. Any one sane at this point knows they were completely correct.
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>>58423
it's about what you can say and what you can't. Some places don't let you entertain more far out wavelengths to discover the truth value
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>>58425
You're using Tor, and you're too terrified to even say it's literally the jews doing this? On a space that's pro-free speech? What are you even talking about? What are you even doing here? Unironically, go back to reddit / Rumble / whatever goyim jew-censored dream space that it is that you came from if you're trying to badger anons into not discussing this freely.
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>>58426
lol. It's not a game over here man, there are parts of the world where freedom of speech doesn't exist and you can't simply entertain whatever someone else presents to you
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>>58427
<lol. It's not a game over here man, there are parts of the world where freedom of speech doesn't exist and you can't simply entertain whatever someone else presents to you
Then simply don't answer or reply, if you're in agreement but can't say so. Don't actively counter-signal like I caught you doing.
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>>58428
haha, you don't understand the political context here. There are multiple glowies trying to do a shakedown on ourchan at the moment, it's not as simple as merely letting others continue and define your context. Anyways, my objection with Karp is simply what he's doing, which is a deeply immoral form of population control which will end in soviet communism. We are already seeing early signs
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>>58430
<I can't agree or discuss things because I don't have freedom of speech
<I can't look at materials, because I don't have freedom of speech
<I'm using privacy tech, but too scared to discuss things which the privacy tech was intended for
<You and everyone else shouldn't be allowed to post things which are true, because I don't have freedom of speech
<You shouldn't discuss ways of getting rid of the totalitarian surveillance state I'm under, because then you'd make the totalitarian surveillance state mad.
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE? WHY ARE YOU EVEN POSTING? LEAVE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
>There are multiple glowies trying to do a shakedown on ourchan at the moment
Yeah, no shit. Mixed-race glowniggers do mix-race glownigger things. We've seen them at this for the last two years. They do this for any and all digital spaces.
>>58409
>We don't need to hurt Karp
Beings that molest their own children/offspring, do not deserve any mercy.
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>>58445
I have an iron clad method of talking about how we should punish the ruling class for it's arrogance. We don't hurt anyone, ever, we talk about repossessing their assets or taking away their keys to the political machine.

Karp, for uprooting democratic change in europe with the swing towards populism, should lose his keys to the car. People like soros, who have bankrolled urban riots and corrupt DAs... basically a controlled demolition of america, should be banned from running front ngos and penalized financially for sponsoring terrorism. Someone like Bill Gates and Fauci, who are a bit more ambiguous, should at most be penalized for causing deaths and be vilified. 

This whole battle between polar factions is playing out at the elite level. People who were not part of the original ruling class were let in because of global capital, open borders, DEI, cynical demagogic race hussler policies or whatever. And they are causing a ton of harm because they want to socially engineer their own societies using disruption, oppression, propaganda, lies whatever. It's an internal enemy at the top of the pyramid which hates their own population. 

Things have not escalated beyond intra elite feuds. We don't have to escalate. But realistically the whole slate of progressive left elites who created the woke disaster need to be sidelined and held accountable for their role in creating the new communism. Many probably had benign intentions
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>>58447
I'm tired of your attempted de-rad nigger-ops.

Affirm that The Protocols of Zion are an accurate and truthful reflection of international jewish behavior, declare that israel is a genocidal welfare apartheid rogue state with an illegal nuclear arms program set against the interests of the entire world, and denounce the talmud, the zohar, and all kabbalah tradition. Refusal to do this will be an affirmation of your sub-continental asian shit-devouring-and-piss-swallowing dalit poo-in-the-streets pajeet ancestry for all anons here to know indefinitely, which will naturally require a ban for leaving your /hell/ reserved space against the rules of this chan.
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>>58450
denounce the fbi and cia
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>>58455
You couldn't even do it. Kek. Black Death upon you, your family, and your village bhosda chut dalit malaun.
>>58447
>people that don't follow rules should follow these rules
>these rules are enforced by people working in the system that enabled and supported such people
>surely they won't find loopholes
>surely they won't just break the rules as they have before
>for things that affected millions of people it's enough to inconvenience them - that'll show everyone; ignore the proportion of impact
>we don't have to escalate, like they do all the time with false flags leading to wars or terror against their own population (NGO sponsored terror groups via USAID, scamdemic)
>it's enough to hurt their wealth of which they can just print more and they surely would never break international laws or run glownigger ops on foreign people to steal their resources and land
>You may also be interested in my most recent books: How to pretend to do something; The art of failure; Why revolutions suck (and I need to be comfy); How to reason with egoistical, selfish sociopaths successfully and why this is the right attempt
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>>58509
>You may also be interested in my most recent books: How to pretend to do something; The art of failure; Why revolutions suck (and I need to be comfy); How to reason with egoistical, selfish sociopaths successfully and why this is the right attempt
Kek. Well done.
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