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is it really true that every single protest group, regardless of affiliation (unless they are state sponsored color revolutionaries like Antifa and black lives matters), are infiltrated and stage managed by police and secret police while people within deemed good candidates are groomed for arrests or illegal behavior to throw their ideas into dispute? 🤔

What do you anons think of fake agitators online paid to stir up shit by saying things which are outright illegal, in the hopes of coaxing the gullible into mimicry or bandwagoning? All using secret signals intelligence only the government could possibly have? Isn't that just evil? 🤔


I can think of a few easy candidates online. People who obviously have arrests hanging over their heads themselves and are simply paid agitators and informants now. If they were ever genuine to begin with. Probably not. That's like palantir's shit, "you can do whatever you want because it's a private company"! You mean blackmail everyone you want and groom everyone you want, because you are ostensibly private?
>>57741 (OP) 
> every single protest group
ofc not. 
>stage managed by police and secret police 
many of them are, you can go through youtube even now and see signs of being managed, they don't want people talking to the new react youtubers and they get coralled now to not do so. 

>What do you anons think of fake agitators online paid to stir up shit by saying things which are outright illegal

I can't imagine that ever works. It never did on 4chan as far as I knew. Grooming is personal, although 4chan can be personal when mods follow you around and goad you in various ways. That's not what your describing though, you are describing a casting of a wide net through rhetoric, I don't believe that's enough initially. 

In the last paragraph you acribe to palantir what could be acribed to a mafia, which ofc that's what it is, whether it's freemasonry, jews, or the government, yes they are a mafia.
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>>57756
turn your papers in at the front desk as you log out, glowie
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>>57741 (OP) 
1. Anyone on mainstream media is comped. 

2. Any group all wearing the same  t-shirts is comped.

3. Any group that looks like they have nothing better to do with their lives is comped.
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Real dissidents have lives and families, they make their own signs, and they are censored in mainstream media.
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Of course governments want to snuff out genuine protests. 
Police will place a car or van they're no longer using at the site of a protest so people can torch it, to give themselves the illusion that they're sticking it to the Man. 
Check protestors' footwear. Glowies sometimes don't bother to change out of their police issue boots. 
Agents provocateur are one of the oldest tricks in the book for regimes to kill off protest.
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>>57762
I guess the point is that they also do this online, since chat groups and other communities are viewed as the new form of protesting. Digital incitement. And far less risky than conventional since they don't have to admit to hacking and other dirty tricks to do it
>>57757
Do you really think each and every protest group is subverted by feds or straight up assembled by them?
>>57741 (OP) 
>fedjacketing
>"Big tent" expansionism
>misson creep sabotage (often due to the above point)
>media propaganda
>social media astroturfing
>subverting them from within
>controlled from the start
If the left-wing media is targeting a group, there's a fairly high chance it's legitimate and will be fairly effective. If a mainstream right-wing media outlet or podcaster is targeting it, it's a threat to the jews. If it's not being targeted - regardless of political orientation - it is approved by the technoindustrial system because it is not a threat to it.
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>>57811
here's a simple rule. I just don't listen to feds and you glow in the dark. 

Political organization outside of funded, sponsored channels is increasingly futile and irrelevant because the government deploys massive surveilance technology designed to destroy and disrupt political networks. It's a totalitarian system in the west in all but name
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>>57822
All countries in the west are totalitarian except possibly Liechtenstein but organizing neither futile nor irrelevant. like holy shit nigger just live your phone at home.
I'm not a glownigger or an employee of any government. I'm not saying you are either because I know some people demoralize others because they are depressed, and it that's you then you should start working out to ward off your depression.
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>>57824
The GOC is currently launching a cyber disruption campaign against my narrative that Canada should free itself right now. So naturally I just don't trust people who show up quickly.  How the Canadian government basically works right now is like a budget stasi from the soviet days. It's all deniable vectors of harassment, attempts to dummy websites I browse with shit or dangerous content, targeted personal attacks etc. 

Anyways, to get to your point there are some actors outside the system who enter the political arena with podcasting. They are often controlled if they reach levels of official state media channel recognition but otherwise can be authentic in rare cases.

Basically, whenever a group of five people gather using social media as a tool one or two people are government agents in that group. And then as the thing grows they become informers and if it becomes a threat they use system responses to disrupt the movement illegally and then claim it was an internal matter or something. Like you said. I've also seen examples of when they read social media narratives and try to get ahead of it by launching a bad version of the group they are trying to infiltrate themselves to get people outed but also smeared.

This lesson is one of the key things activists offline and online should take to heart. Protests are not simply harmless activities you can do and then get back to life, it becomes a pipeline to criminal activity from the government and various dirty tricks to try and cancel you now that you're identified. So people even on the edges can't be stupid. But also, the truth is that even bystanders are considered enemies on the 5th gen information battlescape so really we all have to push on the minute hand for our objective together now
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>>57826
>Informers are everywhere goy
So what? We come here to mock you.
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>>57826
>protesting is a pipeline to criminal activity
That’s pretty hysterical. In fact, your whole post is completely hysterical. 

>>57882
What do you think, are we getting a Vance presidency “adults are in charge” presidency mid term. 

>>57882
>>57882
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