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America's 'big armada' won't change the equation - at least not in Trump's favor


"...Since 2018, Tehran has been the primary actor exercising strategic patience to prevent tensions with Washington from spiralling into an all-out regional conflagration. This restraint has sprung from a recognition of the catastrophic costs of conflict - not only for Iran but for the Arab neighbors it has sought to court against Israeli expansionism, and for extra-regional allies like China that depend on West Asian energy.

Yet, as American pressure mounts and Washington continues to demand total capitulation, the calculation in Tehran is also shifting. Faced with economic strangulation and periodic U.S.-Israeli security breaches, a growing consensus suggests that the devastating regional war Iranians have so assiduously avoided is, at the end of the day, inevitable - and, if fought well, may be the only exit from the current deadlock.

In a recent interview with Axios, President Donald Trump boasted of the "big" American armada deployed to the Persian Gulf, outlining the capitulations required of Tehran to avoid its use. "We have a big armada next to Iran. Bigger than Venezuela", Trump told the reporter - figure noted for deep ties to Zionism.

Washington has dispatched a carrier strike group, alongside additional squadrons of F-15s and F-35s, to the region. This buildup follows threats of aggression should Iran crack down on the armed insurgents who hijacked protests earlier this month, sparking what officials have termed "urban terrorism". Between January 8 and 14, the country was convulsed by deadly violence that claimed approximately 3,100 lives, including nearly 2,500 civilians and security personnel.

Analysts argue these riots were engineered to pave the way for a second wave of American attacks, following the 12-day war the U.S. and Israel imposed on Iran in June 2025. The calculus in Washington allegedly relied on the unrest spreading - with terrorists seizing police and military sites, a scenario claimed to have briefly occurred in isolated outposts on January 8 and 9 - thereby distracting the Iranian military. 

That military had previously wreaked significant havoc across the occupied territories and struck a U.S. base in Qatar during the June conflict. However, with the collapse of the riots, the likelihood that a new war would topple the Islamic Republic has plummeted - removing the central justification the Trump administration might have used to absorb the blows of another conflict..."

Source:
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/523201/America-s-big-armada-won-t-change-the-equation-at-least-not
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Knowing how Trump thinks, he is very likely to threaten and possibly carry out carriers strikes on your host country. But he can't do anything while the political process domestically is in turmoil.
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Iran to target Israel in case of any US aggression
January 29, 2026


"...A senior advisor to the Leader of the Islamic Revolution says that "the heart of Tel Aviv" will be targeted in case of any act of aggression by the US.

Rear Admiral Ali Shamkhani, the representative of the Leader of the Islamic Revolution on Iran’s Defense Council, stated that any military move by the United States would be treated as an act of war.

In a post published on his official X account, Shamkhani rejected the notion of a "limited strike", stressing that any US military action "from any origin and at any level" would mark the beginning of war.

He warned that Iran's response would be "immediate, all-encompassing, and unprecedented", adding that the aggressor would face direct consequences, with the response targeting "the aggressor, the heart of Tel Aviv, and all those supporting the aggressor"..."

Source:
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/241188/Iran-to-target-Israel-in-case-of-any-US-aggression
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>>55679
Actually this time they sound serious. I have a bad feeling about us attacking them
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>>55689



Iran threatens US military assets in Gulf


"...Iran has warned that any US military action would be met with an immediate and decisive response, rejecting the idea that hostilities could be short or contained.

Speaking on state television, Brigadier General Mohammad Akraminia said Tehran’s response would not be limited, unlike in June last year when US aircraft and missiles briefly joined Israel’s short air war against Iran.

Akraminia said US aircraft carriers have "serious vulnerabilities" and that multiple US assets in the Gulf region are "within the range of our medium-range missiles".

"If such a miscalculation is made by the Americans, it will certainly not unfold the way Trump imagines – carrying out a quick operation and then, two hours later, tweeting that the operation is over", he said..."

Source:
https://aje.news/79yd5a?update=4275288
This is a good video to watch and share:



Video: 'Missiles over Bazan' Documentary Debuts in English Edition

"...The English-language version of documentary "Missiles over Bazan", produced by Tasnim News Agency, has been released..."

Source:
https://tasnimnews.ir/en/media/2025/11/26/3457432/missiles-over-bazan-documentary-debuts-in-english-edition
Iran-Russia-China Joint Naval Exercise Planned
January, 31, 2026 


"...Iran, China and Russia will hold joint naval drills next month.

The eighth Security Belt exercise will be held in the northern Indian Ocean region in February with the participation of units from the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy, the Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy, and the Chinese and Russian naval forces.

This Security Belt naval exercise began in 2019 at the initiative of the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy and has been held seven times so far.

It is aimed at bolstering the security of global maritime trade. The joint efforts of the three countries' navies have included countering piracy, fighting maritime terrorism, and coordinating naval rescue operations..."

Source:
http://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/01/31/3505773/iran-russia-china-joint-naval-exercise-planned
Ayatollah Khamenei: Any New US War Would Become A Regional War
February 1, 2026


"...Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei warned on Sunday that any new war initiated by the United States would turn into a regional conflict.

The warning was issued during a meeting with thousands of people from different walks of life on February 1, held on the occasion of the anniversary of Imam Khomeini’s historic return to Iran and the start of the Ten-Day Dawn (Fajr Decade) celebrations marking the 47th anniversary of the victory of the Islamic Revolution.

"Americans should know that if they start a war this time, it would be a regional war", the Leader stated..."

Source:
https://tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/02/01/3506398/ayatollah-khamenei-any-new-us-war-would-become-a-regional-war
>>55652 (OP) 
Is Iran's only real card - besides bluffing about taking down a carrier - that they can strike ME oil infrastructure and cause massive global disruption?
Any geopolitics anons here that can give a good rundown on what's likely to happen here?
>will china or russia intervene
>will tel aviv actually btfo
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The end of US aircraft carrier immunity
February 1, 2026


"...Electronic Warfare: The Vulnerability of Modern Carriers

Military analysts argue that the primary concern for U.S. naval commanders is not a direct strike, but Iran’s capacity to gather Electronic Intelligence (ELINT). 

Monitoring and analyzing radar, communication, and data-link frequencies - particularly those associated with systems such as Aegis - could enable Iran to design more effective jamming, deception, or radar-blinding scenarios if required.

Coupled with optical and thermal imaging, secure data links, and resilience against electronic countermeasures, Iran's drones have emerged as potent tools in information-centric maritime warfare.

Shahed-139 or "Homa"? When Every Vessel Becomes a Potential Launch Platform

Based on available flight patterns and data, some experts speculate that the aircraft belongs to Iran's family of long-range reconnaissance drones, potentially the Shahed-139 or the vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) drone known as "Homa".

VTOL platforms such as Homa do not require conventional runways and can be launched from non-military vessels or discreet platforms - a capability that fundamentally alters maritime security calculations and elevates asymmetric threats to a new operational level..."

Source:
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/241289/The-end-of-US-aircraft-carrier-immunity
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>>55767
Mearsheimer is not a neutral voice on Trump's foreign policy. I tried listening to his takes during gaza a while back and they were saying all kinds of fairly ridiculous things. He was judging him very harshly from the start rather than giving him the benefit. 

Foreign policy people on the right have gotten sucked into a black hole of negativity and pessimism. It started to get understandable big during the biden years, but nobody seems to want to turn the page. I've never once heard a Judging Freedom / unz inspired foreign policy take that wasn't just a half-empty evaluation or written for self interested reasons sadly. Those people had their say, now it's about time we started getting constructive and about possibilities again
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The US Failed to Defeat the Houthis with Two Carriers, Yet It Thinks It Can Regime Change Iran with One?
2 February 2026


"...Currently, the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group (CSG-3) is operating in the Arabian Sea with the presumed mission to be the primary US naval offensive weapon system to attack Iran. What are its chances of success? 

To answer that question we need only compare what Donald Trump failed to accomplish in the Red Sea in March 2025 during Operation Rough Rider. when the US deployed two US aircraft carriers to achieve three mission objectives..."

Source:
https://sonar21.com/the-us-failed-to-defeat-the-houthis-with-two-carriers-yet-it-thinks-it-can-regime-change-iran-with-one/
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Larry Johnson: The United States is going to get its a** kicked by Iran.
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>>55844
Very interesting, It's highly unlikely to be able to intercept a swarm of 100 drones and millies. once they deplete your interceptors then they unleash the big ones. Any hit on a US ship degrades our reputation . Is it worth that just to prop up nuthin yahoo
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>>55845


Thank you for your post.

Johnson posts a lot of good content on his Sonar21.com website.
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>>55846
>Johnson posts a lot of good content on his Sonar21.com website.
I wasn't aware of his site. He has some very good information and he's an insider so he knows how they think.
Thank you keep up the good work.
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>>55861


Thank you very much.
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The Kike-onomic Warfare (Jewish Economic Warfare) has to be brought to an end.....
Top Iranian General Warns of Grave Consequences of Regional War
February 8, 2026 


"...The Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces warned that a regional war would severely set back progress and development in the region, noting that while Iran is fully prepared, it has no desire to initiate such a conflict.

In comments at a meeting with the Iranian Air Force and Air Defense commanders and staff on Sunday, Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi said recent days had clearly demonstrated the image of a powerful Iran, noting that the country possesses both the authority and the necessary readiness for a long-term war with the United States.

Referring to the most recent round of nuclear talks between Iran and the US in Oman, the commander said Iran welcomes rational and reasonable avenues for negotiations free from illogical preconditions.

He underlined that despite this level of preparedness, Iran is genuinely not interested in starting a regional war. The chief of staff said that although the targets of the flames of a regional conflict would be the aggressors, such a war would inevitably push the region's progress and development back by many years.

General Mousavi warned that the responsibility for the consequences of any regional war would rest with the warmongers, specifically the US and the Israeli regime..."

Source:
https://tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/02/08/3511864/top-iranian-general-warns-of-grave-consequences-of-regional-war
47 years of resistance
February 9, 2026


"...In November 1979, only months after the Islamic Republic was formally established through a national referendum in which Iranians overwhelmingly voted to reshape their political system, Imam Khomeini addressed a crowd in the city of Qom.

The revolution had just dismantled the Pahlavi monarchy, toppling a shah widely viewed across the world as one of Washington’s most reliable lackeys in West Asia. The question of how the new Iran would deal with the United States loomed large, and Imam Khomeini did not equivocate.

"They [America and its agents] will plot against us", he warned. "But they will not be able to do anything".

Nearly five decades later, those remarks read less like revolutionary bravado and more like a blunt outline of what followed. For 47 years, successive U.S. administrations - Democratic and Republican alike - have pursued policies aimed at weakening, containing, or undoing the Islamic Republic. There has been no real pause, no lasting reassessment, and no acceptance of Iran’s insistence on charting and maintaining an independent course.

The pressure has come in many forms. In the 1980s, Iran endured an eight-year war launched by Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, a conflict that was in reality, a U.S.-backed proxy war that cost hundreds of thousands of lives. In the decades since, waves of sanctions have followed, measures designed not simply to alter specific policies but to exhaust an entire society. More recently, the confrontation has included direct military clashes, a brief but intense 12-day war, cyberattacks, assassinations of Iranian scientists and generals, and a steady stream of covert operations.

Alongside military and economic pressure, Washington has repeatedly sought to engineer political change from within. From coup attempts to efforts at exploiting economic hardship and social grievances, the underlying objective has remained consistent: either force Iran into strategic submission or replace the Islamic Republic altogether. None of it has produced the desired outcome. Iran has been damaged, sanctioned, and relentlessly vilified in much of the Western media - but it has not collapsed, surrendered, or abandoned its core principles..."

Source:
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/523662/47-years-of-resistance
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China's YLC-8B Radar Transfer to Iran Could Rewrite Middle East Airpower and End Stealth Dominance
February 5, 2026


"...The reported transfer of China's YLC-8B strategic three-dimensional radar to Iran represents a decisive escalation in Beijing's military-technical support to Tehran, with one defence analyst warning that "the YLC-8B is one of the few radars of its type in the world which can continuously detect and track a Western fifth-generation aircraft at long range", fundamentally reshaping regional airpower assumptions.

Emerging intelligence claims that China has delivered multiple YLC-8B radar systems - each capable of detecting targets out to 700 kilometres - signal a strategic recalibration in Middle Eastern air defense architecture that directly challenges longstanding assumptions underpinning U.S. and Israeli stealth-centric strike doctrines against Iranian territory.

This alleged transfer gains heightened significance following the recent 12-day conflict between Israel and Iran, where Tehran's air defense vulnerabilities were exposed, prompting an urgent effort by Iranian military planners to rebuild and harden detection layers capable of countering advanced low-observable platforms and long-range stand-off strike profiles..."

Source:
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/china-ylc-8b-radar-iran-anti-stealth-middle-east-air-defense/
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Why ARE the US and Israel Obsessed With Eliminating Iran’s Ballistic Missiles?
February 11, 2026


"...It appears the main topic of discussion at Wednesday's meeting between Donald Trump and Bibi Netanyahu was Iran’s ballistic missile program. It really was not a discussion... Instead it was Bibi, with his advisers, trying to sell Trump and his team on the necessity of ending Iran's ballistic missile capability. Why the emphasis on those missiles when, until recently, the big concern was whether Iran could build a nuclear bomb? 

The US and Israeli narrative about Iran's missile and drone strikes in Israel during the 12-day war in June 2025 insists that Iran did little damage and that the combined might of US and Israeli air-defense systems knocked down 90% of the Iranian ballistic missiles. If that was true, why is Netanyahu pressing Trump touting on the need for Iran to eliminate its ballistic missile force?

I have the answer... We need only look at the damage Iran's ballistic missiles caused in Israel during the 12-day war in June 2025 - based on reporting and independent analyses of the conflict (much of the detailed damage was initially censored or not fully disclosed by Israeli authorities, but independent and foreign sources have provided information).

Iran launched more than 1,000 ballistic missiles toward Israel over the 12 days, often in large salvos that overwhelmed the Israeli and US air defenses. Israel's multilayered missile defense systems intercepted some, but a significant number still penetrated and struck targets. 

Hundreds of buildings in major cities such as Tel Aviv suburbs (Bat Yam, Ramat Gan) were damaged - with some buildings so badly hit they were later demolished. In Tel Aviv alone, analysts mapped damage to around 480 buildings across multiple strike sites..."

Source:
https://sonar21.com/why-are-the-us-and-israel-obsessed-with-eliminating-irans-ballistic-missiles/
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USS Ford ordered to the Middle East, the second aircraft carrier being sent to the region

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uss-ford-ordered-to-the-middle-east-the-second-aircraft-carrier-being-sent-to-the-region/ar-AA1Wg32J
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Netanyahu in Washington: The invisible architecture of US-Iran policy
February 14, 2026


"...When Benjamin Netanyahu arrives in Washington, the choreography is familiar: handshakes in the Oval Office, invocations of an "unbreakable alliance", carefully staged symbolism.

But beneath the ritual lies something far more consequential. This is not diplomacy for display. It is diplomacy for calibration. At moments when Washington begins exploring diplomatic "off-ramps" with Tehran, Israeli leadership moves to narrow the parameters of what those off-ramps can look like.

Netanyahu's visits are not about persuasion in the conventional sense; they are about reinforcing structural boundaries.

Administrations may rotate between parties, but the guardrails surrounding U.S. - Iran policy have proven remarkably durable. Netanyahu does not merely lobby Washington. He reinforces an architecture already embedded within it..."

Source:
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/523790/Netanyahu-in-Washington-The-invisible-architecture-of-US-Iran
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IRGC Navy Launches War Game in Hormuz Strait


"...The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps Navy has launched a military exercise titled "Smart Control of the Strait of Hormuz" in the strategic waterway.

The combined, live, and targeted "Smart Control of the Strait of Hormuz" drill is being conducted with the central role of the IRGC Navy and under the supervision, control, and field monitoring of IRGC Commander Major General Mohammad Pakpour.

The main objectives of the war game include assessing the operational readiness of the IRGC Navy's units, reviewing support plans and scenarios for reciprocal military action by the IRGC in the face of potential security and military threats in the Strait of Hormuz region, and making intelligent use of the geopolitical advantages of Iran in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman..."

Source:
https://tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/02/16/3518564/irgc-navy-launches-war-game-in-hormuz-strait
Ayatollah Khamenei: 'More dangerous than a US warship is the weapon capable of sinking it'


"...As more American warships move toward the Persian Gulf, the Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, warned that those vessels represent greater danger to the United States than to Iran - because in the event of conflict, they would be sunk.

Speaking to thousands of people from Tabriz ahead of the anniversary of the city's historic 1978 uprising, the Leader characterized the U.S. President's threatening statements as a clear expression of their intent to dominate the Iranian nation.

He emphasized that, despite the threats of war, the Americans understand that, due to their political and economic challenges and the potential damage to their international reputation, they cannot sustain such rhetoric. He added, "They are aware of the consequences they would face if they make a mistake".

Ayatollah Khamenei, responding to the U.S. President’s repeated boasts about commanding the world’s strongest military, said that sheer power does not guarantee victory. "Even the strongest military force can be struck so hard that it cannot rise again", he emphasized..."

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https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/523922/Ayatollah-Khamenei-More-dangerous-than-a-US-warship-is-the
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Friday evening starts the fireworks
US illusion about Iran's military, strategic power
February 19, 2026


"...Over the past years, threats to use military power have become a main component of Washington's political rhetoric towards Iran in a way that it has no correct understanding of the Iranian strategic and military power.

Repeated US threats against Iran have become one of the most consistent components of Washington’s political rhetoric, a rhetoric that is sometimes accompanied by widespread sanctions and sometimes by a display of military power in the region. But what is less taken into consideration is the strategic consequences of such an approach.

By continuing these threats, the US government is practically entering a difficult, multi-layered, and complex game; a game whose rules cannot be determined solely by technological superiority or classical military power.

Four decades of confrontation between Tehran and Washington have turned Iran into a country that has built its defense and security structure not on the basis of classical warfare, but on the basis of asymmetric deterrence. 

This model is the product of dense historical experiences, long-term sanctions, and constant exposure to the external pressure. In such a framework, Iran has tried to raise the cost of any direct conflict to the other side to a level where the decision to attack becomes a risky and costly choice.

During the recent 12-day war, Iran demonstrated that it is not a passive actor or one limited to symbolic responses. Tehran’s rapid, coordinated, and multi-layered responses conveyed the message that its operational capabilities were not only maintained but also, in some areas, enhanced. 

What makes this experience significant is not simply the number of operations or the range of its weapons; it is the demonstration of its ability to make rapid decisions, manage the battlefield, and penetrate enemy defenses. This experience demonstrated that Iran thinks and acts within a framework that goes beyond the traditional models.

The United States is considered a major military power in the world, but the problem is that a potential conflict with Iran will not be a classic, limited war. 

The geography of the region, the security complexities of West Asia, the presence of numerous US bases around Iran, and Tehran's extensive network of regional allies all complicate the equation. In such an atmosphere, any military action could set off a chain of counter-reactions that would be difficult to contain..."

Source:
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/241953/US-illusion-about-Iran-s-military-strategic-power
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>>56129
I hope this prediction proves wrong
>>56129
>>56138
I hope this prediction proves correct, ending in the United States' utter humiliation combined with a total destruction of the jewish terrorist state known as israel.
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>>56129
>>56138
>>56139
Guys, as the meme that is now boring to both God and people goes... nothing ever happens. Best i can give you is The Great Irony 2039-2045 and that if were are lucky enough. Take this seriously as you would Iran or Israel.
>>56134
> In such an atmosphere, any military action could set off a chain of counter-reactions that would be difficult to contain..."
This is exactly what Drumpf needs to distract from the Epstein files. You hit the nail on the head
>>56138
>I hope this prediction proves wrong
I hope so too. If it happens it's going to be very messy for sure.
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"...A JEW MUST ALWAYS TRY TO DECEIVE CHRISTIANS In Zohar (I, 160a) it says:

"Rabbi Jehuda said to him [Rabbi Chezkia]: "He is to be praised who is able to free himself from the enemies of Israel, and the just are much to be praised who get free from them and fight against them". Rabbi Chezkia asked, "How must we fight against them?".

Rabbi Jehuda said, "By wise counsel thou shalt war against them" (Proverbs, ch. 24, 6). By what kind of war? The kind of war that every son of man must fight against his enemies, which Jacob used against Esau - by deceit and trickery whenever possible. They must be fought against without ceasing, until proper order be restored. Thus it is with satisfaction that I say we should free ourselves from them and rule over them (Christians)"..."



Source:

"The Talmud Unmasked" by Rev. I. B. Pranaitis, pages 72 to 73
https://cosmotheistchurch.org/product/the-talmud-unmasked-by-i-b-pranaitis/
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"All warfare is based on deception. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him."

- Sun Tzu


Source:
https://suntzusaid.com/book/1

Purchase here:
https://cosmotheistchurch.org/product/the-art-of-war-by-sun-tzu-hardback/
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Khanna, Massie plan to force war powers vote on Iran
February 19, 2026


"...Reps. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) plan to move next week to force a vote on a resolution to require authorization from Congress before President Trump can use military force against Iran.

"Trump officials say there’s a 90% chance of strikes on Iran. He can’t without Congress", Khanna said Wednesday in a post on the social platform X. "@RepThomasMassie & I have a War Powers Resolution to debate & vote on war before putting U.S. troops in harm’s way. I will make a motion to discharge to force a vote on it next week".

In the closely divided House, the vote could be very close. Republicans can afford no more than one GOP defection on any party-line vote, assuming all members are present and voting, and absences can change that margin..."

Source:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5745037-khanna-massie-war-powers-iran/
>>56156
>Quoting Chud Tzu
never dissapointed.
I just don't think it's happening. Trump stands to lose everything if war happens again since his midterm is coming up, and his own party is full of libertarian types. The first bombing provoked such outrage I don't think anything more could ever be justified
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Others here say it will:
>Barring a surprise, Congress and its elected leaders are on track to give President Trump the equivalent of a green light ahead of a potential major war in the Middle East.

>Why it matters: War Powers Act resolutions, including one that Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) intends to force next week, are meant to restrain the president.

>But House Democrats appear short of the Republican support they would need to pass a symbolic resolution against Trump.
>An early defeat of one in either chamber could make it easier for Trump to let slip the dogs of war.

>The big picture: A U.S. campaign against Iran could drag out for weeks, sources have told Axios' Barak Ravid.

>"I think there is 90% chance we see kinetic action in the next few weeks," one Trump adviser told Axios.
>The U.S. has deployed a massive build-up
The following article is pretty long, but I think it's a very good read:



Iran exists today because of its missiles, says former UN weapons inspector
February 20, 2026


As Washington once again raises the prospect of confrontation with Tehran, questions about U.S. intentions - and the limits of American power - have returned to the center of debate in West Asia. In an exclusive interview with the Tehran Times, Scott Ritter, a former UN weapons inspector and U.S. Marine intelligence officer, discussed how Washington views talks with Iran, what it hopes to achieve with the country, as well as the growing risk of military escalation.

Ritter believes that the United States is using diplomacy less as a route to agreement than as a tactical tool to buy time, apply pressure, and shape the conditions for confrontation. In his remarks to the Tehran Times, he outlined what he sees as the real thinking behind U.S. and Israeli demands, warned against misreading Iran’s deterrence, and described the potentially catastrophic consequences of a war for the region - and far beyond.

Read the full text of the interview below.


Trump has called regime change in Iran "the best thing that could happen". From your perspective, how realistic is it that the U.S. could actually achieve that, and are there any historical examples that help put this into context?

It is important to understand that when President Trump articulates regime change in the way he has, it reflects official U.S. policy. Iran should not be misled into believing that there is any pathway to the normalization of relations through negotiations. Negotiations, in this context, serve purely as a pretext to prepare the ground for a regime-change operation.

The United States has a long history of carrying out regime-change operations in other countries. The operation against Saddam Hussein in Iraq, for example, was a decades-long effort. Muammar Gaddafi, Bashar al-Assad, and Nicolás Maduro are other cases often cited. The fact remains that the United States has repeatedly sought to remove targeted governments from power.

These statements are not made in a vacuum. They are tied to a broader policy framework and to concrete measures that are already underway. Iran has recently endured a period of severe violence orchestrated by the United States and Israel with the explicit aim of weakening the Iranian system in pursuit of regime change. This is not a hypothetical scenario; it is a real policy and a genuine threat to Iran.


There's a lot of talk in the U.S. about precision strikes versus a full-scale invasion. If a limited air campaign happened, what do you think would be the first targets, and how might that affect the region as a whole?

It is clear that there are two types of strikes the United States could consider. One would be a so-called demonstration strike, similar to what occurred at the end of the 12-day war - a short, symbolic attack designed to demonstrate American power and allow Washington to posture without achieving any substantive outcome. Such strikes are typically employed when the United States recognizes that it cannot realistically achieve its ultimate objectives.

If, however, the United States moves beyond a demonstration strike, it would signal a commitment to a decisive and existential outcome for Iran - namely, regime change. That represents a fundamentally different approach, and it is closely tied to domestic American politics. It is important for Iranians to understand that U.S. policy toward Iran is deeply influenced by internal political considerations.

The current U.S. president faces a critical midterm election in November and is already under significant political pressure due to domestic issues, including immigration policies, the role of ICE, and the deployment of militarized police forces in American cities. He risks losing control of the House of Representatives, which could expose him to impeachment proceedings during the second half of his term - an outcome he is keen to avoid.

The president campaigned on a promise to avoid major wars in the Middle East. If the United States were to enter a large-scale regime-change war with Iran, he would need to secure a clear and decisive victory. Failure to do so would likely be politically devastating. This calculation is central to current U.S. decision-making.

There is ongoing discussion about a week-long military operation against Iran, and such an operation would be designed to be decisive, with the explicit goal of bringing down the Islamic Republic. This possibility must be taken seriously. At the same time, the political risks involved may ultimately prevent the president from making such a decision. Without a guaranteed outcome in terms of regime change, the United States could become trapped in an open-ended conflict - something that would carry severe political consequences for him at home..."


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https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/524030/Iran-exists-today-because-of-its-missiles-says-former-UN-weapons
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Why would Iran give up all their Cards just so they can get bombed anyway. Look at our track record. Libya gave up all it's defenses and Giddafy got a pipe up his ass. Iraq didn't aspire to have Nukes and was attacked and Saddam Hung anyway. Syria overthrew it's king with the help and Blessing of usa aligned fighters and they get bombed daily and their land taken anyway. Look at the state of Afghanistan after we were done with it.
Is it any mystery why they don't just capitulate so they can get destroyed after the deal.
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The problem with the option of giving up Iran's Nuclear weapons program, is that they know if they do Israel and America will invade and occupy them. The standoff rather resembles what was happening in Iraq at this point prior to the invasion. They can't disarm because they know they will have a future war with Israel.

Maybe america wins the bombing campaign, but with Russian Aid flowing to Iran obviously they will have to occupy it. And then that's a second insurgency scenario they cannot win. Moreover it is so unpopular they wouldn't even be able to get that far.

I truly do not know how this problem can resolve short of Israel backing off and things cooling. The more disruption in MENA that happens the more trouble it will bring years later
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Understanding Why General Caine Cannot Guarantee a Slam-Dunk Success if the US Attacks Iran
February 24. 2026


"...Iran is unlikely to be sitting passively waiting to be hit. While the US will be launching AGMs at Iranian targets, the Iranians will be launching drones and ballistic missiles at the air bases in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, as well as going after other US targets in the region. I think this helps explain with General Caine and CIA Director Ratclifffe reportedly told Trump that they could not guarantee the success of a surgical strike. 

This will mark the first time since the end of WW II that the US will engage a country with a missile/drone capability that could neutralize US air assets and inflict heavy damage of US and ally military infrastructure..."

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https://sonar21.com/understanding-why-general-caine-cannot-guarantee-a-slam-dunk-success-if-the-us-attacks-iran/
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>>56288
>This will mark the first time since the end of WW II that the US will engage a country with a missile/drone capability that could neutralize US air assets and inflict heavy damage of US and ally military infrastructure..."
This is absolutely the case. Iram has been building and stockpiling these missiles for nearly 2 decades as the only deterrent against us and our great ally. They see what happened to all the other neighboring countries that capitulated or went the peaceful route. I seriously doubt they'll make any concessions on their ballistic missiles. The Nukes they will negotiate away though. I hope it doesn't come to a war, It would be bad for everyone and we'll be paying $7 a gallon for gas.
>>56288
there seems to be considerable fear about things escalating and turning into a mega regional war. Like what Iraq was trying with scud launches during the gulf war but even bigger. But any gut check would tell you that Iran cannot be held except through a ground campaign. And a ground campaign is more than just a bombing run and would inflict massive humanitarian havok. Although I do suspect the initial American losses will still be low.

This is such a strange and turbulent time. I cannot even see a pathway to safely exiting this crisis short of letting time heal
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>>56290
> Iran cannot be held except through a ground campaign. 
No way will anyone attempt a ground campaign. It would be so costly in terms of casualties and there's no appetite for that from us or any one else.
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>>56302
I'd be relieved if that was current thinking. But if that's the case, what the hell is the objective here? Do they think they can mow Iran every few years with PGMs now and that's the end of it?
>>55652 (OP) 
> America's 'big armada' won't change the equation - at least not in Trump's favor J
It's on. We and Israil attacked Iram. Lets see what happens now.
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>>56335
based. If they only do a bombing campaign without a protracted ground invasion I doubt there would be significant pushback
>>55746
Aged like milk, of course. Are you brown? Or do you just enjoy swallowing obvious propaganda from browns?
>>55946
This chinkshit got assblasted. Thanks for the laughs though. Are you Indian?
>>56165
Only a gay faggot believed Trump. Kill yourself for your horrible judgement and traitorous actions. Have you not been paying any attention at all to ZOG actions?
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