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Are liberals too far gone to reason with, or is there still a chance to change their minds and reach some kind of agreement?
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>>47192 (OP) 
well leftism is a mental disorder so there is that

imagine claiming men get pregnant and girls have dicks

???
It highly depends on what their existing conditioning is, how intelligent they are, and what their existing race/class affiliation is. A white woman of mid to low intelligence who was bullshit university educated and watched reinforcing propaganda cannot be converted. A white man by contrast who is not a homosexual or otherwise preconditioned to affiliate probably can be.

Logic is really at the mercy of someone's prejudices. If they think something is normative they will defend and ultimately begin to internalize the rhetoric used to justify it when pressed. You do not want them to internalize or harden their positions at all, you want to switch the programming before the kid gets pozzed. This is why the soft sell of gently presenting the alternative and letting them see it to expose their cognitive inconsistencies is so important.

Anyways public debate is based and very manly and a valuable skill so everyone should do it.
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for instance, you ever hear of the experiment where subjects were forcibly given certain pieces of art rather than getting to choose? Eventually they actually liked the artwork despite their counterparts who did get to chose not having an affinity for the same pieces at all.

This is the mindset of the normie. They've never thought critically about their society, they were just given it. Now they think it's theres and will defend it just like the painting those subjects were given
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>>47192 (OP) 
>Are liberals too far gone to reason with

The time for having debates and using facts are long gone. You have to use optics and nudge people in the right direction. In the clip you provided you can hear that the guy above is just rehearsing you typical breadtuber phrases, the NPC meme in full display.

You can lead the horse to the water but not force it to drink... and most horses in this case are indeed thirsty.
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>>47245
>>47246
You pretty much said it all.
SOME liberals can be shown the light, maybe 10-20%, bout only if they are exposed to the realities extant of the discussion, and are intelligent enough to see what's going on instead of being TOLD what they are seeing.
That said, I have given up on trying to convince even family members, either overtly or covertly(subtle hints and comments about false narratives) since it has been seen time and time again, you can NOT force redpills, they MUST be taken willingly, and usually are, only after being primed for a length of time with a self-awareness of their own cognitive dissonance.

Most will simply roll back into their comfortable screen routine and forget all about the "problematic" info after a single day.
What are you gonna do? Spend countless days/months/years trying to save one "True Believer" only to have them revert? Waste of time.
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Consider the many parables of the Missionaries and the NIGGER Cannibals.
Pick one, ANY one.
It's almost a 1 to 1 correlation.

Yes, 80-90% of "Liberals" are merely programmed "NIGGERS" whom are only useful as "Cogs in the Machine"
Visual ((( Entertainment&Info ))) has been the greatest brainwashing breakthrough ever, and when reinforced with an artificially produced sense of mass consensus, even Whites of above average IQ and other intelligences are easily converted into "True BeLIEvers"
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This is a good thread to discuses the NPC/Wojak/Pepe phenomena.

NPCs, Wojack, Pepe and Evolutionary (Para)-Psychology
AKA
Hylics, Psychics, & Pneumatic, the 3 stages of soul as classically identified by Plato.

>We have all known for years, decades even for some oldfags, that the majority of people just don't
really think critically, have common sense, or even a seeming comprehension of their own memory/history.
Resulting in all kinds of names, sheeple, lemmings, drones, background characters, or in recent 
memetic times now, NPCs; non-player characters. Memetically emerging into the greater awareness as 
NPC in 2017 due to a news article released though anon had been speculating on this exact concept for
at least a year before not counting other preexisting conceptual-memetic lines of energy.

The crux of what the sciene said is 3/4, literally 75% of people have no inner monologue. Without this
there can be no refinement of the logo-ic/logic aspect or intellect in a power user sense and thus one
is subject to waves of mental/emotional energy, of which memes are high coherent ways of delivery and
self-reinforcement, though I digress. Without a capacity to even process input stimuli 75% of people just
re-act, or you may say, execute memetic programs as they have not the awareness nor desire to override.
Another problem with this is the NPCs can even matrix agents (i.e., Mr. Smith) and otherwise normal people
but highly subject to energy tides and equally unconscious can act 'out of character' and even have memory
blackouts in which minor possessions happen if they are not virtuous enough. The Greeks knew this state
of being as a hylic, one subject to matter and thus tormented to toil in it.

These seemingly empty people or cardboard cutouts, NPCs almost all but devoid of their own individually
unique freewill expression and desires, often semiconsciously (or unconsciously) part of some
collective(s) as they do not have enough solar will to stand against the elements, chaos, and world
alone. and so they are subsumed by cult(ures) around them even if it does not serve them. Band-waggoning
along, socialiting away because the ego says that being a pariah is not good for survival chances. 
But it goes deeper than just that... and we're getting there.

Moreover even the 25% that had (some) awareness of monologue had not it all the time nor complete
mastery when they did have it, ergo the 'thinking class' or maybe we should say 'memeing class' of
folk are a quite small percent which is the tail wagging the dog, though again, we anons have seen
this for years, the juicy creative chaos of /b/, and latter, /pol/ cascading down though the 
reddit>tumblr>funnyjunk>ebaums>facebook-esque path.

So we made memes, and to became such a big incident that you couldn't even say or search for "NPC"
on google, youtube, facebook, twitter, et al. for a while in the fall/early winter of 2017. The
reason for such a massive censorship was because it was a super effective meme, it actually resulted
in jarring quite many into more self realization and thus they got nudged into the lands of feels
and thinking about thoughts, or you may way they became feelsguy after breaking through the NPC, and
as they refine eventually one could become a psychic, (Greek Psyche is the goddess personification
of the soul or the body of mental-emotional-desire energy) and start to work with the waves of
subtle force which actually shapes the world. Though even the best psychics are little more than
great sailors/surfers of energy which one may call Wojak in the more mature and resolved form.

However to actually drive the energy of psyche, to deliver motive force, one needed the breath of
spirit, known to the Greeks as a pneumatic. This really represents the transformation or rebirth of
the individual, both into absolute individuality, and then into a completely refined (reshaped) being,
quite perhaps likely very unlike the previous one (like a blue pill compared to a red pill, or even
green or iron pill). So the frog, as a literal metaphor of nature for imitation or mastery of walking
on two world, comes to us. Pepe as the awakened avatar of Kek, though some varieties of the
semi-initiated semi-profane foul bachelor frog may be seen as the many forms/faces of chaos bridging
again from the lower orders, through periods of chaos, to higher ones.

All the while the High memetic priests, inscribing with cosmic wisdom (often geometrical, mathematical,
and/or sonic) with quick wit, glimmering austerity and tauntingly surreal mystery just begging to be
asked why and thus though about.
>lulz we trollz U
Pretty much, but now we are doing this to 100,000 people at time. and the end result of the trolling
is to awaken people not (necessary) to feed the lulz machine. The ultimate zen art of trolling was
master by most anons by 2010 or 2011 at the latest.

It takes ENORMOUS force of will of will to stand above the temporal tides, of family, of civilization,
etc, which is why anon is precisely suited to just such an endeavor as it's supreme taskmaster. We
learned how not to leak our mental power (getting into troll-tastic arguments) and have to save our
emotional power (healthy skepticism and through fact finding before emotional resolution and weight
behind a belief, years of research at least.
>lurk 2 years minimum

Aside from mental fortitude a necessary component is vitality. The raw force of life and power itself,
seen by some cultures, like the Taoists, Tibetans & Lakota, as lightning (and the latter most with
horses as the earthly animal totem thereof). Funny enough though we have this ancient Aryan concept
of Lightning war, Vajra(kilaya), Thor, Blitzkriege, Umman, or even Gangis Khan coming from nowhere with
irresistible force (no electrical impedance could suffice). And so the less conductive elements must
bow, by axe, horse, spear, or literal electrical god-like presence that makes fallen men not even dare
to try disrespecting an obviously superior hero/demigod.

This is getting on track, I promise though first I must give appropriate mythological context for the unlearned.

Lightning, or more formally now-a-days, electricity. Is the supremely unconquerable element, like fire,
but higher order and not quenchable by water, in fact the reverse may well be true (flash boiling of water
or other electro-repulsive effects). In other words the air (O2), water (H+HO), move as an electrical
response to lightning, or even on small scales, bio-electricity or chi. When you move elements you are
their lord, you by force of will commandeth, not by hammer nor blade but pure creative imagination, vital
desire, and vivid focus. This will make flows that carry the earth (heavier minerals, salts, and very
importantly, metals). Any how, the water moves always, it's currents, both of emotion energy and literal
water, within (blood, flesh, bile, etc) and without (rivers, clouds, wells) conveys magnetic charges
bother measurable and most importantly cultivatable!

Back to electricity, the most conductive element in the body (and indeed on Terra Firma now) is Gold,
Au, Auro, Oro. Contained within mono-atomic form in our blood (mostly) and other tissues here and there
(some collection in solar plexus and mid brain). Increases your solar power conductive capacity, and also
literally with devoutness your increases actual measurable electrical charge conductive rate (top voltage,
pressure of electrons in transference of charge) and also mono-atomic gold density increases. You are
becoming more conductive. That's good, but must be balance, by the Moon (silver) as the pair of noble
(or virtuous) metals or divine masculine and feminine and there are many many more... Don't overload
yourselves anons.

The sun conducts and ra-diates the electrical power, though in concentrated form, Zeus, Jupiter, Thor
is a distinct domain from Sol, Ra, Sonne. So also working with the power of electricity itself increases
your capacity to be 'overwhelmingly unconquerable against all enemies of compassion' (Tibetan desript.)
or you may say your electrical spirit-soul amperage (or flowrate of electrical ionic effects). These
disciplines allow one to self-order (recompose the body and soul) and then once your power overfloweth
enough your creative influence in the world may, dare we now say appropriate poetically epic as all the
glimmer of the depths of esoteric depths of memes is where 20 years of channing has gotten us (in the
greater, collective humanity, morphogenetic field responses and even oversouls of other kingdoms of
life aswell).

So any how. all this to say the very first degree of initiation of known in most western occult systems
is known as the wizard, the wizened one, the magi, or more explicitly the worker and weaver of all 4
elements, body, Earth, soil, down drawing though temperature neutral; water, emotions, magnetism,
contracting and cooling; air, gases (notably O2 in biochem), as expansive though temperature neutral;
fire, heating, expanding, desire, raw creativity/life/vital force (Od, Vril, Prana). By the command of
the elements, one is their own master in all domains. This is when the transformation of the seeker or
neophyte (feelsguy/feelsfrog/wojack) is achieved into the learned initiate, the sage (Pepe) and at
higher levels high priest(ess) who becomes Avatara (Kek) at will.

This concludes my write up formally, though here's my notes and foot notes:

>S-so memes are just memes right?
They are archetypal forms written into our oversoul, brought out (so we thought) by random chaos of
memeing by the 100,000 shitposts. Turns out from chaos order is born, and really the only necessary
qualifying factor is to, sustain the presence.
>lurk 2 years
It's really quite funny how such was our rules of the internet and so many other seemingly arbitrary
self-imposed customs reforged us, and created a fountain that is memeing the world a-new in our collective
self-idealized image. We are on a brave new seas anon.

The cthonic aetheirc tides (moon cults) of that have held the world since the dawn of Pisces are waning;
the shifting of the ages is upon us and the total effectiveness of memetic (psychic) warfare over
exoteric (hylic) war is proof that the old military orders are gone and done, now stand the era of mind,
air, Aquarius, the militancy (discipline) of psychic force, though also the light, levity, and expansive
freedom thereof shall be delivered increasingly unto now and even what us initiated oldfags can see is
but glimmer of a glimmer of what is yet to be. Things are ever exponentializing, mind over matter is real,
Live it!

So remember, always meme responsibly, keep a well manicured memetic garden within your own psyche. Keep
faith anon, we are winning, we are growing stronger, and we are waxing h-ero-ically ageless.
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And now some capped high brow analysis of NPC. >>47333 >>47327 thanks pics for studies folder.
>>47192 (OP) 
this guy is like 13 years old bro
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Last 2 pics are original NPC source from 2016, 2 whole years before it surfaced on the normienet.
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>>47327
Yes, that's quite true. The person chooses whether they want to parse the contents of the logic. I only started following race realism for instance after first debating it with the polacks as opposed and then deciding I wanted to read a troublesome inheritance by Wade. That's probably a pretty normal flowchart. First the mere exposure, then the appearance of a debate to interest the user to the other side, then the innocuous appearance of literature on the subject which the user might read. If they read it, they'll eventually internalize the view of the proponent and be drawn into reading more and more. It's not any more or less complicated, people are just very tribal in how they think and are surrounded in self-supporting ecosystems of ideas which reproduce that quo.

tl;dr for intellectual people show them books, the beginning depths of the rabbit hole, and talk up the mere facts which they might then examine because of how controversial it is. Curiosity and the social sell work hand in hand
>1 post by this id
>Irrelevant time wasting question
Guess we're back to being 4tranny.
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>>47192 (OP) 
Leftist here.  Fully redpilled on Zionism, free speech, etc.

Why am I still a Leftist?  Labor rights, conspiracy issues.

Even ecology.  Fully redpilled on the Global Climate Change hoax.  But my opinion is complex.  There is change, but it's caused by the Zio-Pentagon's HAARP and other such worldwide ionospheric heaters, to force a global government.  Otherwise, I do not appreciate corporations getting the "right" to dump mercury etc. in my water.

I agree with a lot of RFK Jr before he began bootlicking Israel.

I am not vaxxed.  I am "redpilled" on a lot of issues.  I would never vote for another Democrat but neither a Republican.  It's a false dichotomy.  Both are controlled by Israel via blackmail & bribes.

We are in danger of antisemitism laws & "red flag laws" which will be used to disarm the public & eliminate private property.  Private agriculture will be seized.

I don't know if there's any hope for the West.  I donate to Massie monthly but I can't be sure he's not controlled opposition.  I will continue to donate but I will also be on guard.

The Deep State is real.  The Deep State is not Leftist or Right-wing.  The Deep State is Luciferian/Zionist/Mithraic/demonic.  They play both roles, Left & Right, to destroy both sides.
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Liberals are tools of Propagandists.
The Propagandists uses them to help in the White Genocide movement.

Yes, absolutely they are a lost cause.
Have you seen how much training it takes, to train a dog not to grab a piece of food on the ground in front of them?

The dog, genetically, has a pack order and even when under your hierarchy, will still be extremely stubborn to train in this regard.

Now imagine a Human, who is genetically not from a pack order, who does not believe it is below you in any hierarchy, and you want to convince it that it's beliefs are wrong?

To make matters worse, all of the fake Celebrities, Musicians, Athletes and other tools of the Propagandists, are being used to reinforce the Liberal that they are correct.

This is a nearly impossible task.
>>47479
>deepstate is [...] Mithraic
That is not the word to use. Mithra is:
>sworn enemy of lies
>warrantor of oaths
>wielder of the sword of truth
Kindly check this out to properly see your context.
https://annas-archive.org/md5/0b4622e5b977663e5e73c3135dec9d83

Your on the path anon.
>>47395
That is Quite an eccellent compilation of NPC pics and vids.
I also appreciate your so-called "Wall of text" being broken down into a readable form.
Thank you for your contribution.

AnYONE who wants to save these pics should do so now.
The Spacemonke(owner) has finally had just about enough of the egregious bullshit that comes with trying to run an IB, in the present socio-political environment.
I fear that while it's had a good run... /OUR/Chan is about to be DONE.

Pics are already B& from posting.
*Remember: It's NOT his fault. ANY man would eventually crack under this sort of pressure.
Sadly,. It was some of "Our OWN" who helped to push this ending forward.
I've a feeling that there are those who would just love to REKT a site like this, just to be able to take it over.
 Thanks again SPaceMonke, you were a HERO for a good 7 months.
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>>47475
TOP ZOZZLE!!
You are an Illiterate FAGGOTNIGGERKIKE if you came here to post this without being aware that OP may very well still be here, but under a different ID due to the ABILITY to use VPNs and Tor.
KYS Turbo FAGGOT.
lollololololololololololololololololool
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There is going to need to be an orgy of building of Lunatic Asylums to warehouse these degenerates and segregate them from actual people.
>>47567
<text board mode activated
DOESNT MATTER
Just use links for all multi media. What matters is spirit. Not gonna stop or even slow me.
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>>47387
Interesting breakdown. The connection between Plato’s soul types and internet archetypes is surprisingly deep. Memes really are shaping how people think maybe even evolve.
>>47327
some one should do a version of the NPC meme on the right but instead of static its a bunch of selfies of normies that all come together to make the color gray of the NPC golem
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>>47648
wait other right as in the left fuck I'm dyslexic
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>>47192 (OP) 
Every individual is unique, and it's impossible to predict how someone will respond to a particular argument or approach. However, by engaging in respectful and open-minded dialogue, we can create opportunities for growth, understanding, and potentially, a shift in perspectives.
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>>47649
As my brain ages and crumbles I seem to be getting the odd bout of numbers dsylexia (dyscalculia) which is a cunt when it comes to captchas and passwords.
>>46793
Dihexa @ Science bio. Only run a few times at most with anticancer adjuncts like Quercetin or Turmeric. It stays in the system for about a month
>>47568
Kys fag
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>>47751
>thinks 1pbtid is a thing on tor/vpn enabled image boards
kek nah nigger you dun goofed
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>>47192 (OP) 
I think it’s more productive to try to understand each other rather than writing off a whole group. People often have good reasons for what they believe, even if we don’t agree. Finding common ground is hard but not impossible.
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>>47192 (OP) 
Martinez shilled for Azov in Ukraine. He's the ((( allowed ))) person left to be active after they took all the others down that were there and relevant before that clown.

And about stupids and wrongs: Bottomless pits. Better idea: Find out what you want and means to make it happen.
>>47982
Fuck that. No mercy. Total extermination. Leave no trace behind. Why you have an enemy you have no other choice. Kill or be killed.
>>47765
>Are liberals too far gone?
Definition of an irrelevant time wasting question thread but go back to writing blog posts to no one.
>>47192 (OP) 
Fucking dumbass antifa white soy boy leftist... Clueless about reality living in some blm fantasy... this is an example of the dumbasses that will continue to screw up our culture and society in the next generation... The mentally ill spawn of dumbass liberal woke parents...
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>>47192 (OP) 
Who knows? At this point, probably. But maybe not. Few things are more redpilling on race and immigration than traveling to third world shitholes if you're a left-environmentalist, and I speak from personal experience. Especially if you remember what life was like in England and Germany before mass migration. Still, some people can't make the logical jump and extrapolate based on what they've seen. Others end up arriving at the same conclusions as a certain math professor well before they read his works.
>>47673
AI slop
>>47982
AI slop
>>47192 (OP) 
Shut the power to the cities of for a month and you just created a moderate

Shut the power off for a year and you created a nazi
yeah they are too far gone. They are both stupider than the right and arguably more radicalized and firmly fixed in their social mileus. The peak retardation we saw during covid is what they will do for the rest of our lives. BLM, masks, le democracy in decay and jan 6 fedsurrection... those were their big lies
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