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British is hebrew for covenant men
>brit is covenant
>ish is men
>ain is fountain
Everything about history is a lie, the US Revolutionary war was actually a rebellion against the Gods Chosen Israelites aka European whites, the revolutionary leaders of the USA were freemasons and luciferian satanists, Benjamin Franklin was in the hellfire club and had hundreds of corpses under his london home, they say that the US revolution started as a protest against taxes, yet the outcome is US citizens being taxed at rates never seen before to fund nightmare crimes against humanity in underground bases, which has turned into a global empire of corruption.

>>53932 (OP) 
There's too much they could never have anticipated in the 1700's. They formulated the USA on the premise that people were inherently honest. They couldn't foresee and evil foreign interest penetrate so deeply into our morales.

Here are my thoughts on this topic.

These founding fathers, listed in the previous post, were adherents of the Scottish School of Common Sense.

But what's particularly interesting is that, along with the fundamental principles, they also implemented Improved ideas of non-religious idealism.
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>>53935
>They formulated the USA on the premise that people were inherently honest.

Yes, you're absolutely right about that...

This is precisely the basis of their non-religious, idealistic beliefs that I mentioned here.

The knowledge that a society of equals is possible.

But the problem, as always, was implementation.

So, if a couple of founding fathers could somehow agree with each other and delimit their personal holdings...then how could this be done for MILLIONS?

Well, here's the answer...NO WAY.

There are simply no solutions to the problem of scaling society. That was their shortsightedness...or maybe I'M WRONG?!

And they merely laid the BASIS...for thinking...that, hundreds...maybe thousands of years from now...would have led to the desired result?
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>They couldn't foresee and evil foreign interest penetrate so deeply into our morales.

I think they COULD have foreseen it. And they created this changed direction by creating the United States, knowing that the experiment would fail in reality, but would live on as an idea on paper...waiting for the moment of "real implementation."

Otherwise...we wouldn't be discussing this here.

that early period was when large numbers of people owned their own homesteader properties with homes. They were relatively autonomous in a sense and so the idea of distributed power reflected a practical social order. Especially considering anyone could pick up a musket and in short order and in short order contest the government if they really felt like it.

as for the rest. I think people tend to exaggerate the deep conspiracies. The States had their moment during the two world wars until about the 90's, then negative demographic trends and economic globalization began to catch up with them. Wealth disparities between commoners and elites does have something to do with it as well.

That period's goal of self sustaining landowners would be a good one to try and emulate. Most people view it in a favourable light

>>53933
>Gods Chosen Israelites aka European whites
If that theory about Isrealites is actually true and can be proven genetically for example it would mean a lot for Christianity being fundamental part of Europe. No more would we believe that Israelite aristocracy or virgin Mary and then God Jesus himself (in human form) were Semites or had Neanderthal DNA, but rather they were Indo-Europeans by ancestry. But i doubt that is the case as it stands right. MENA is a hotspot of debate of who belonged to what ancestral group, although its mainly ANF, ANA, Natufians, what else? Indo-Europeans were up north as they came up conquering and i dont know how much they influenced the gene pool in the Crescent Moon.

>>53935
Their zeitgeist was different than ours, simply put.

>>53948
>that early period was when large numbers of people owned their own homesteader properties with homes.
Lets be honest m8. Lots of Americans and Canadians do still own their own property, especially outside of big cities. Its not like this has completely vanished.

>>53961
Can't speak for Canadians, but no American (ethnic European) owns their house in the United States. If you don't pay taxes on the land or house, a SWAT team shows up eventually. It's renting, except you have more control over arbitrary increases in rent.

Naturally, non-Whites including jews either are paid to live by the system or have a printer for the infinite money supply to handle this.

>>53961
Right, and that's why rural areas vote conservative. Because they want to conserve their holdings and want minimal interference from the government. Nu-Liberalism by contrast was and is more of an urban phenomena involving landless wageslaves living like bugs. The bugs have had their natural aversions to disguising conditions broken down by chronic exposure, and also have little material possessions to speak of and so little investment in the status quo.

But of course, back before, even cities were relatively small and surrounded by propertied petite bourgeoise types. This was the backbone of the liberal-conservative era, the small businessman and the rural landowner. Both of which generally favoured a conservative quo of sorts for their own reasons. And that was a good foundation for society because generally speaking most had a buy-in. These revolutionary movements come when people lack social investment or are getting squeezed by economic pressures. All very modern issues

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what made the Americas more unique was that practically everyone could get off the boat and become a landowner. Or would soon become one. By contrast Europe had the legacy of serfdom and nobles to deal with, and more congested conditions for land purchase. Thus more landless and revolutionary types existed. America, by contrast, had it's socialist moment but never to the level as threatening as elsewhere. In large part because the small focus network of society had decent social mobility and large amounts of investment. It was a good system, and a fitting one in which to launch the early democracies of the time

>>53965
>If you don't pay taxes on the land or house, a SWAT team shows up eventually. It's renting, except you have more control over arbitrary increases in rent.
We pay taxes for property here too, but due to how Eastern Europe works, SWAT raid would take sometime to happen, they are lazy so wont commit really unless you are a dangerous criminal that can hurt the regime.

>>53968
Or would soon become one. By contrast Europe had the legacy of serfdom and nobles to deal with, and more congested conditions for land purchase.
I dont know. Western and Northern Europe seem to have figured it out very good, even Southern too. What Balkans lacks is proper organisation, look how well organised are Dutch places, they look very well planned, over here people just dont give a fuck about proper planning. Region of Zlatibor suffered to this very heavily, from once a pure natural mountainess region, it became filled with expensive apartments (which do look nice), but no one really lives in them and they are everywhere nonsensically.

>>53988
>We pay taxes for property here too, but due to how Eastern Europe works, SWAT raid would take sometime to happen, they are lazy so wont commit really unless you are a dangerous criminal that can hurt the regime.
Checked. Then it's fair to say nobody owns anything, unless they're an expressly privileged rootless poor racial class (gypsies, niggers, etc.) or an excessively privileged rootless rich racial class that prints the money in the first place (jews). Neither group needs to earn or work their taxes on the property. Either is the enemy.

>>53989
Lol Gyppos are welfare leeches 101. Unlike niggers they never wanted to integrated and were always prefferable of positive segregation, they did have tries from some of their and other Balkan groups to politicize position of gypsies as a minority and virtue-signal but it just cant ever take roots properly simply because their low IQs cant push it through and cygany doesnt have the same impact as the name niggers. Although when i read works of Radoje Domanovic (serbian satirical writer) i do wish i had my status of a honorary African so i can get my gibs from Europe lol. We are amerimutts of Europe so it wont work out. Mixture of Indo-Europeans, ANF, EHG, but the other two are a bit more dominant.

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>>53990
>Mixture of Indo-Europeans, ANF, EHG, but the other two are a bit more dominant.
Are you the anon with the 20% indigenous American heritage? Is there no way you can leverage this as an advantage to get gibs from the state? I was the main anon answering your questions from your thread, but I've been taking some time to give you a full reply here recently to your last question.

>>53988
Right, Europe had a congested economic system which was highly class-stratified, and that eventually led to socialists taking power after a protracted struggle. That socialist welfare state system, which rendered a high quality of life and had many benefits, has now become very dysfunctional in Europe and paved the way for the great replacement and authoritarian censorship of the region. America had more social mobility and better investment in life metrics, so historically (but not today) it was able to avoid having to make the same major concessions to socialist governance. 

The Balkans. I don't know your entire story, but I think the real problem was Yugoslavia was pushed to come apart and that was what ruined your region. It's true that Tito's system wasn't wealthy or enviable, but I suppose at least it had cohesion of a sort.

>>53991
Nah, im not him. Im a dwarf with blondish hair and reddish beard and a straight nose, light skin. Not so typical of a Serb. I look more Irish, i mean i do live in the northern part of the country.

>>53992
>but I suppose at least it had cohesion of a sort.
Nah, it was held to together just like the last Yugoslavia because of illterate peasant class that made up majority of Kingdom Of Serbia prior, they are very prone to intra betrayals and are professionals at changing sides for their own benefit. Only literate Serbs were the ones from Vojvodina and they were the only ones who had coherent idea of a Serbian state going forward, while in the west, you had Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia where it first started as Illyrianism (then later Yugoslavism) which is logical, you want to honor legacy of the Rome, but the problem is, legacy of the Rome in the Balkans was supposed to be honored by the Serbian Empire in middle ages, but how are you gonna honor something so great when the people who are supposed to do it have behaviour that rivals those of niggers and jews. Thats why Serbs always boast about Battle Of Kosovo, but purpousfully wont tell you about "Battle" Of Maritsa in 1371, it was not a battle, but rather a tragic massacre caused by overly inflated ego, it is commonly described as the greatest defeat of christendom, eastern particularly, but i personally think it doomed good chunk of Europe to this day.

>The Balkans. I don't know your entire story
Its an interesting rope to walk on you know. I sometimes feel bad for Western whites who have to listen to various Balkaners explain them stuff from here. It is quite simple tho in my own eyes. Legacy of Rome had to be honored after the collapse (Both Western and Eastern), everyone carved/took their place across entirety of geographical Europe, except Serbia who was after creating an empire expected by both Greece and Bulgaria to carve its place in the Balkans then it failed miserably, people just gave, converted en masse and then pledged allegiances to other big powers, there was no more point in being Serbian, it all then turned into low trust survival of the most cunning and scummy.

>>53948
>That period's goal of self sustaining landowners would be a good one to try and emulate.

You've captured the essence well.

And the most important question...why isn't this the main goal NOW?

And the answer is simple...land is taxed...land doesn't belong to people even after they buy it. THE DREAM IS DEAD.

>>53965
The concept of private property is greatly exaggerated.

This phenomenon can truly be called a LONG-TERM LEASE... The land is not yours... The land is federal and belongs to the ELITE, which hides behind democratic institutions and shields itself with a population of goyim, so that autonomous individuals cannot exist in this world independently of THEIR SYSTEM.

>>53967
The right-wing also doesn't understand that the lands are not theirs... but ultimately belong to a SUPER PREDATOR, to whom they pay rent every year FOR "THEIR LAND"

By the way, Trump is a great example of this phenomenon, having transformed the right into a moderate left.

A true RIGHT right-winger will shoot any federal bastard a mile before they even get to his house...no questions asked.

>>54058
>instead of actually fixing anything

You shouldn't have said these words...I'm also a fan of action...WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?

>>54057
>The concept of private property is greatly exaggerated.

>>54058
Because I offer solutions...unlike the people who criticize me.

I make plans, diagrams...I explain point by point...but still the flow of criticism never stops, as if THE PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE ME HAVE A BETTER PLAN, BUT THEY SIMPLY CAN'T SAY IT BECAUSE THEIR TONGUES ARE IN ASSES...

In the asses of nature, hierarchy, the economy, the elite, the entire system... anyone...

If you have a better solution than mine, rather than being a slave to this 8 billion dollar bug-infested mess... THEN GO FORWARD?! I'd love to hear it... I won't even criticize them...

>>53936

The founding fathers created a 250 year empire where hundreds of millions of people have lived in relative peace and comfort, and you speak about it as if it is a failed project.
American society has not undergone even one proper iteration, i.e. bloody revolution, since the war for independence.

I am not supporting the west's now botched and dilapidated society. I am only saying that you need to consider the alternatives to fully appreciate what has been accomplished. 
What could otherwise have been another gruesome chapter of feudalism and serfdom (a class under which you'd likely have found yourself, regardless of talent) became instead an highly literate and noble nation of autonomous individuals.

The federalization was and always is inevitable. Nations are an organism comprised of human beings rather than cells, and as such they decay and die and they nourish new nations. The founding fathers knew this and gave us what tools they could to allow for a quick rejuvenation of free society.

>>53935
They absolutely did foresee the evil, and they made many provisions in light of that. This is why Americans feel they have a right to free speech, to bear arms, 
and to other behaviors which are technically privileges not rights. The anti-federalists were well represented in our constitutional amendments.

>>54203
i like the way you think, medkit

>>54203
>American society has not undergone even one proper iteration, i.e. bloody revolution, since the war for independence
uhhh.... the civil war?

>>54427
Unsuccessful rebellion, therefore no revolution...

The Constitution of the founding fathers remains, with significant amendments no doubt, but of a relatively gradual influence.
Real revolutions turn the political landscape into something unrecognizable after just a few years.

America was a nation designed specifically for revolution by those brave enough to seize it. And ONLY those brave men should direct its reemergence. The brainless human livestock will always just submit to whichever regime validates them by refilling slop in their feeding troughs and patting them firmly on the head. 
The nationwide armament, the (never fully realized) right to free speech and expression are among the artifacts produced by prevailing sentiment of anti-federalists in early America.
Tyranny was not just supposed to be difficult, it was supposed to bring about the next iteration. Unfortunately many people today are trapped (intentionally) by the delusion that an increasing necessity of violence and self-sacrifice to correct a botched society is evidence of a fundamental error. This we can attribute to the modern secularization of people whose lapse in theological history fails to remind them that man, and the designs thereof, are destined to corruption since the original sin of Adam. The white European migrations to America can be separated into two categories, those before the revolution, and those after. The descendants of the latter remain largely ignorant of the revolutionary foundations of America, but will soon have to learn.

This Russian knows nothing of the American's autonomy, his tactful dissent, and aspirations of continual rebirth. Unfortunate mongrels of his country only know how to topple what little sophistication exists among mindless overflow of prostitutes, paupers, and cretins. He is obnoxious, but we endure worse idiots than this so whatever.
Every American, (that is, man of heritage in America) is a seed of prospective enterprise in doctrine, in industry, and in governance. To men in absolute captivity, the hope of fighting to the death is fantasy. They have already been conquered. To the American and more precisely to the Christian, it is a destiny already prophesied.

Also, I apologize that I haven't better articulated my thoughts, I am quite sick at the moment...

>>54203
>The founding fathers created a 250 year empire where hundreds of millions of people have lived in relative peace and comfort, and you speak about it as if it is a failed project.

My country helped, a lot, bankrupted itself to do so, once it was done we weren't invited nor warned about the signature of that paper, actually they threatened to go to war if they didn't go away but not before giving back rightful clay.
It was a failed project on day one, too many anglos doing the usual anglos shenanigans.

>>53932 (OP) 
The founding myth and the character of it's key figures are incredibly interesting and based. It's like a pantheon of "American Gods", each with strong narratives and backstories. It has AURA. Many Americans still do believe in the bill of rights, many of us will always see it as wrong when those are trampled on. We we're supposed to rise up an kill the usurpers a long time ago.  

> I mean that among "Americans," there are very few AMERICANS...

I agree, some literally give no fucks, the red/blue schism has widened to the extent that neither people who can identify with political parties, sees the other as American. Many from both camps are guilty of not holding the ideas of the founders at the forefront.

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>>53932 (OP) 
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The founding fathers saw the new Republic as the successor of Aryan governments from ancient times.  

https://deepamerica.substack.com/p/hengist-horsa-and-moses

Aryans invented democracy, and they always gravitated back to it in times of conflict because it's the only way to govern a country full of people who can all kick your ass.  

The Celts survived just fine for thousands of years without any ((( statutory law ))) or ((( centralized government ))). 

TL;DR Don't speak to me until you read The 5000 Year Leap

>>57642
Is every tor poster here kike or just you?

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>>57643
Two options kike.

If you switch sides now, you can still look forward to a  minimum security room with galvanized square steel and clean aluminum panels at worst.  Otherwise your options are getting liquidated by ZOG or getting your ears and nose sliced off as a warning to the other glowniggers.

^
fed, fed, fed; the fed. You won't do shit

>>57658
Iran will destroy Israel.

>>54203
>They absolutely did foresee the evil, and they made many provisions in light of that. This is why Americans feel they have a right to free speech, to bear arms, 
Hear hear

>>54619
> too many anglos doing the usual anglos shenanigans.
Hear... Hear