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On 4troons you used to have a lot of people bitching and moaning about real books being better than E-readers or that books were nowadays obsolete, but I have a different perspective on the matter.

Because I am broke the investment into an E-reader has paid off. I probably saved hundreds if not thousands of Euros by simply getting books online, however physical copies have their place. I usually just pick up books from 
the trash (before people throw away stuff here they put it in front of their house in a orderly manner for others to take) and second hand bookstores. There is no comparison between the feel of real paper, however I think that the E-ink technology has come so far that the difference is barely relevant as far as the optical act of reading goes.

What do you guys think?
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I agree broadly. Libgen, anna's archive and archive.org are lifesavers for money and speed of transmission. But I also concur with the bookbros who think paper is better than digital. Especially with retention, or documents you want to keep in emergency lights out scenarios. The issue is that computer screens and readers are too distracting and not good for retention.

I've done ereaders as well, like you have. The issue with those is typical models phone home.  I know there are hacks to get around this but I'm not sophisticated enough to do it. Also issues with not being able to rapidly flip to desired pages for review, but that's a minor thing.

Eink technology has world changing potential however. They are working on eink monitors for computer screens. That's what I want. The going rate was several thousand last I checked on amazon
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>>7
>They are working on eink monitors for computer screens
They are already a thing however it is irrational to use E-ink for high refresh purposes. Like yeah it is nice to read stuff off of those, however writing and editing code. watching videos etc. etc. is a pain and very electrically inefficient.

I have never encountered retention issues with E-readers though, my model is 8 years old so it doesn't even have Wifi or anything fancy like that. it just  opens epubs and pdfs.
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>>9
What's the brand name? I have a kindle or something, and it wants me to do their stupid login and sign up process that requires an internet connection to dox me.  There are workarounds involving flashing the authkeys onto it as if I'd registered but I haven't gotten around to doing it
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>>4 (OP) 
Real books are in fact better for most use cases, however ereaders are great for travel and for reading/storing "based" literature that is often hard to find or that you don't want people to know you're reading. For example, you can't find 200 Siecles Ensemble at your local library. Even if it was, do you really trust a library tech or librarian to keep your data secure from glownigs or "activists?"

Has anyone tried the boox or PineNote tablets? 
>how are they for reading epubs
>is it easy to open them up and physically disable the wifi cards for security and anti-distraction purposes
>how feasible is it to nigger-rig a BLE card or removable adaptor can get it to work
>how good is the audio playback
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>>10
Oh I don't know the exact model but it is a Sony. As I said, very old model, most likely one of their first. It is really slow if I am being very honest but it works and I don't mind waiting one or two seconds for it to turn the page.
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>Real books are in fact better for most use cases, however ereaders are great for travel and for reading/storing "based" literature that is often hard to find or that you don't want people to know you're reading.
Yup. That's what I use my E-reader for 99% of the time of. I read while traveling to work. Obviously you wouldn't want to be caught with a "For my Legionaries" on the tram by some Antifa ground whale.
Ive never had a kindle, I wish more phones had e-ink displays or displays like the TCL 40 NXTPAPER which is a close approximation with high refresh rates. 

I have been collecting a lot of books lately in digital format that would cost thousands to get copies of all of them so unfortunately I have to read those on screens.

Ive been listening to audiobooks more than reading for a while but the retention is shit, I need to start actually reading again.
>>7
Frens Library is also a great resource for free ebooks.

https://library.frenschan.org/
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>>15
Can confirm. Home page looks like a mess but they have most of their stuff categorized already:
https://library.frenschan.org/category?data=category&sort_param=stored
The issue with reading based lit on an ereader is the wiretappers now have a good log of your dissident interests one download at a time. Whereas if you buy a physical copies of things there's less of a trail and you can pass it on to others. Samizdat didn't start on the internet, it couldn't
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>>17
Nigger if you have any electronics made after 2000 in your house you are being spied on. Who the fuck cares if trannies at the CIA know im reading mein kampf lmao
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>>21
you're just making yourself a voluntary mark if you don't think about these things
EBOOK chads can't stop winning!
But seriously, only having physical copies of the absolute most important books to you is definitely the way to go.
>>11
>boox 
I really want one of their tablets, and looking at the others in the market, boox shit seem to have the best value by far, and not even that bad of a quality.
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>>11
>>29

I recently got a boox tablet, specifically for the PDF reflow feature. Many of the books from the frenschan library and archive.org are poor-quality scans of physical books. the ability to reflow is huge. other brands might have this feature, and I am aware there are desktop applications to do this, but not all books are modified n the same way and the ability to do it on the reader is huge. FYI there are a large number of people complaining about their scummy warranty policy but i am very gentle with the device and i've been happy so far
I have owned a Pocketbook Basic Lux 2 E-reader for many years and the thing has held out throughout that time through the thick and thin. The Basic Lux 2 was the latest model when I bought it but Basic Lux 3 and in 2023 Basic Lux 4 have now come out though I still love my second generation just fine. The model is exactly like it sounds, a basic E-ink E-reader with some extra bells and whistles added. There is a charm to still owning an older model. Hopefully it lasts many more years to come. Nowadays most of what I read is based literature so it almost always falls to me being glued to the E-reader screen over a book although I still own some physical books.
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>>4 (OP) 
I have found that fiction is best for audiobooks, non-fiction or fiction that requires checking footnotes (humanities and soft sciences, but also looking at you Infinite Jest) is best with e-books, and books that require extensive note-taking or working through (hard science) are best when physical.
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>>69
>physical copies are best for hard science textbooks
If it wasn't for the light reflecting off the glossy paper and hurting my eyes while making it hard to read the text, I'd agree. I just get the digital copies for free from my university's sperg centre and put them on my ereader and laptop. Luckily they give me both PDF and epub formats, very convenient. But if it wasn't for the glossy ultra-reflective paper I'd prefer physical textbooks (until I have trouble selling them because the cunt professor or department wants a new edition every year).
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>>101
You make a good counter-point. I found this very same issue with the new editions of the Feynman books on Physics.
>>4 (OP) 
I think that if it is printed on paper, that makes it much more difficult for people who don't like the idea of free access to information to delete it or change it with one mouse click.
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>>103
Yes. Both are good.
I literally have no alternative, Vietniggers are illiterate retards and not worth reading, so ebooks are the only option
>>4 (OP) 
there was also a lot of love for e-readers there. an e-reader is one of the most effecient ways one could use money, as long as one actually uses it and keeps back-ups.
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