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These are the future of warfare and a high priority threat against civillian populations by tyrannical governments. We need to brainstorm how to mitigate, detect, and disable them.

Jammers can be detected by triangulation. Modern versions are using fiber optic spooling which cannot be jammed. Wearing a thermal liner with buffer to prevent heat conduction is obviously suboptimal, particularly while the escapee is moving and heating up. 

Obviously we need more viable options for survival here
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>>37 (OP) 
The solution is have more fiber optic spooled drones than your enemy. On the battlefield kill any group that shows up IMMEDIATELY before they can launch the drones. That helps having knowledge where this group is at all times before they even get near the battlefield. Knowing where they sleep next to their wife 1000km away from the battlefield before they link up with everyone else is preferable for early warning detection. This drone shit is so bad. I would say if you're taking on a military unit this is easier because of EMSEC issues. Taking on a rag-tag civilian group would likely be harder. Because of it's natural camouflage of the glowie flavor. TLDR; drones are so bad, pray to the lord for peace instead. Don't even gaze into autonomouse AI swarming you won't even sleep anymore. The worlds situation is so bad I'm constantly sick lately.
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>>37 (OP) 
microwave weapons? directed ones obviously, we don't want omnidirectional fried zogbot.
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>>38
we should have a totally new approach to civilian electronics if the truth about datamining ever comes out.

The scenario is this being used by tyrannical police state governments to round up dissidents like an xmen days of future past comic.
I just can't help but think that drone warfare is the low-tech, pragmatic version of the movie "Runaway" (1984) where the wonder weapon were bullets that were heat-seeking and capable of making turns and all of that.
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>>41
i'm just surprised it took as long as it did to develop.
We've had people duct taping 9mm to RC helicopters all the way back in 2009 i'm pretty sure.
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Think we need to identify "How" they are killing people with drones.
which is mostly in open fields and closed off small spaces wtih large openings.
Additionally, if you were to move only at night, you'd have to consider whether the cloting you wear is NIR compliant (near infra-red) and consider your thermal footprint.
Frankly if you're going at night anyway, you should be using a ghilly out of mylar
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>>44
We are talking about scenarios where the government wants to get you and you start to bug. They will then deploy these things in your approximate area in large numbers, far higher than the naked eye can ever see (aprox 10k feet If I'm correct)  with telescopic zoom lenses and FLIR. All of the heat points on your bug route below will then get tagged by lower level drone surveys.  Once they tag you, it's essentially game over since the gov can send infinite resources pinging death drones at you. Keep in mind you will be dealing with foot and motor petrols on the road and trail systems, dawg pound teams, and eventually trackors and other sf adjacent spiggots sent out to get you. 

The mylar thing has issues. Number one being the noise they make. Number two being the fact that heat will inevitably breath around it. Number three that if you are moving with any speed as will be necessary you can't really lower this signature.  We basically need an electrically cooled fremen desert suit to avoid the predator timeline.  Anyways.
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>>45
>We basically need an electrically cooled fremen desert suit to avoid the predator timeline.  Anyways.
valid points, and i agree.
It genuinely sounds fucked all round.
Besides, the cooled suit plan will take at least two more decades, if not more.
Way too expensive to be considered for general development so we won't see any until it comes from the private sector.
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Home brew lasers can blind the optics of drones in a fraction of a second making FPV drones useless.  They don't even need to be very powerful as optics are extremely vulnerable.
Its just a matter of strapping together a few laser pointers and rig up a switch and a targeting optic with a filter on the end so you don't burn up your retinas
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>>60
No reason a few modifications to those holiday light projectors couldn't be used as a protective measure for a home base/bunker.
UV LEDs are also effective at blinding camera optics, but without the damaging effects.
I've swapped out the LEDs in cap lights to UV with great anonymizing effects for cameras while out and about, but the laser lite projectors could be amped up a bit maybe, and you'd have an "automatic" continuous sweep
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Sonic weapons can be easily defeated by making a personal shield out of foam board with an aluminum backing, two pieces at a 90 degree angle.   It will also defeat weapons that heat the skin.
>>49
I don't know why there isn't anyone making fully enclosed ballistic tactical helmets. Currently to get something like that you have to get a mishmash of ballistic helmet, gas mask, goggles, comms and earpro, all with their own attachment systems and questionable ability to play well together. Wouldn't it be nice to just have it all in one package? If someone can figure out a version of this that allows a decent cheek weld they could make a gorillion dollars.
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It would be too stylish.  Seems the modern military is all function no form anymore.
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>>37 (OP) 
git gud

Wouldnt infrared + net gun be a drone killing combo?
You take them down with 5.56: https://youtu.be/vL6bVkdG7IM?t=181.
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>>37 (OP) 
>Obviously we need more viable options for survival here
How about killing everyone that looks like this?  Cut out the middleman LOL
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You fart at them super hard. Also testing if this gay site lets me just post.
>>94
An anon once said that jews look like the corpses of dead White people, and I've never forgotten it.
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Locating enemy dro es can also be done by sound. With multiple microphones at strategic positions and algorithm could locate enemy an enemz drone. But with multiple one flying at the same time it get much more complex. Still it could make for an alarm system. Kind of like the early air raid detection systems in WW2
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