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It has been over four years since the covid vaxx  rollout in December of 2020 and we have not seen mountains of dead bodies, sky high rates of disabilities, or birth rates crater to near zero. (birthrates are falling, sure, but they were doing that long before the vaxx)  By this time it should be obvious that the depopulation event isn't happening and isn't going to happen.  The overwhelming majority of vaxxies are alive and well.  How many pharmaceutical products do you know of where someone takes 1-3 doses, is completely asymptomatic for years, and then has a sudden onset of serious problems?  Besides ZOG wanted us all dead they have had the means and know how to create and deploy genetically modified bacteria for decades now.  Why bother with something new?
>>13488
And I would like to clarify my question again:
>How many pharmaceutical products are there where you take a couple of doses, are completely asymptomatic for years and then suddenly start having serious problems.

A pharmaceutical product where all three of the following conditions are true:
Patients take between 1-3 doses
Are completely asymptomatic for years
Suddenly onset of serious complications

Not:
They took x prescription at y dose for years and had problems later down the line.
They took the pill and immediately had serious problems.
I would also like to point out how unhelpful the antivaxx narratives are.  Most White people are vaxxed especially White women and Whites in the middle class.  Alienating them isn't a wise strategy.  The "shedding" horseshit is especially destructive.  "Isolate yourself inside to avoid normies shedding on you, goy!" "Avoid all White women because they are infertile and vaccinated, goy!"  Shekelberg is the only one benefiting from those beliefs.
>>13488
Bumping because for once OP was not a fagot and made his own thread for this discussion
>>13496
>we HAVE seen it..in fact we see it on the news every day
Bullshit.  There is no hiding hundreds of millions or billions of deaths.

>weve never seen before young sportists dropping dead at the middle of a game

https://www.glendalestar.com/news/moon-valley-athlete-dies-after-collapsing-at-football-game-against-cactus/article_15b68196-b8d4-11e7-872c-135f5272c349.html

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/death-on-the-basketball-court

https://www.telegram.com/story/news/local/east-valley/2015/07/30/sutton-teen-dies-while-swimming/33777260007/

All I had to do was search "athlete dies during game before:2019-01-01"  There is zero chance these were vaxx or covid related.
>>13501
Where did all the flu deaths go during that time?
>>13502
Probably misdiagnosed as covid due to perverse incentives for hospitals.  How does that prove the depopulation horseshit?
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>>13488
This nigga let someone inject him with an experimental jewish made gene therapy shot developed to combat a man-made virus released by his own government, because he wanted a free krispy kreme donut. lmao.
>>13504
That's great anon, now how does that prove that 5.55 billion people are going to drop dead?
>>13503
why would they go to such lengths and push it so hard on everyone if it was safe and effective? Why the masks, the distancing, the lockdowns that were clearly unncessesary from the start? 
 Why the miocarditis in young healthy people, still births and "long-covid" not long after the shots rolled out ? The manipulation of data, the "perverse incentives for hospitals" ?
 Why push it so hard ?
 That's the real question to be asked, not waiting for 'piles of dead bodies' , clearly they won't pile every dead body in front of your house, IF that dying is happening at that rate.
>>13506
I don't have any studies for total deaths on ventilator, but I have one from New York City.  Most of the deaths seem to be from fatties and old people. 
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9353963/
>>13507
>Why push it so hard ?
Probably because they had data that showed that people on the right are more likely to be "vaccine skeptical" and it was an opportunity for leftoids to remove people on the right from positions of power and influence and grab it for themselves.  That and our enemies love flexing power over us.  We all saw how much shitlibs enjoyed mask policing.  Given that it has been so long and we don't see mountains of bodies after 5.55 billion people took the thing it is unlikely depopulation is the agenda.
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>>13513
>Very impressive, okay so let's say it was just gullible fat and old people with the flu who appear to have been murdered knowingly by the pharmaceutical industry during COVID.
I don't think that is what happened.  I think what happened is doctors didn't know what to do at the beginning.  It is unlikely all the doctors are in on any conspiracies.

>Would you be able to fetch the actual efficacy numbers of the vaccine for us next? 
What source would you accept?  I know you won't take CDC data and most studies I am finding cite the CDC at some point.

>I'm talking about people who got sick after they got the vaccine.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8825448/
Serious side effects seem pretty rare here.
>only 3.1% of vaccine recipients sought medical care for side effects post-vaccination, and almost none (0.3%) were hospitalized. 

>>13514
>look up archive link
>childrenshealthdefense.org article links to another article in Epoch health further links to another French study 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363484655_Towards_the_emergence_of_a_new_form_of_the_neurodegenerative_Creutzfeldt-Jakob_disease_Twenty_six_cases_of_CJD_declared_a_few_days_after_a_COVID-19_vaccine_Jab

>We are studying  26  Creutzfeld   Jakob Diseases,   in  2021,  from  an  anamnesticpoint of view, centered on the chronological aspect of the evolution of this newprion disease, without being able to have an explanation of the etiopathogenicaspect   of   this   new   entity.  We   subsequently   recall   the   usual   history   of   thisdreadfull  subacute   disease,   and  compare   it   with  this   new,   extremely  acute,prion disease, following closely vaccinations. In a few weeks, more 50 cases ofalmost spontaneous  emergence  of  Creutzfeldt-Jakob   disease have   appeared in  Franceand Europe very soon after the injection of the first or second dose of Pfizer, Moderna orAstraZeneka vaccines.  To  summarize, of   the 26   cases analyzed,   the first   symptoms of CJD appeared  on average 11.38 days after  the injection of the COVID-19 "vaccine".  Ofthese 26 cases, 20 had died at the time of writing this article while 6 were still alive. The 20deaths occurred only 4.76 months after the  injection. Among them, 8 of them lead to asudden death (2.5 months). 
A prion disease that appears 12 days after exposure.  Usually CFJ takes at least a year after exposure so that's quite a claim and 26 cases out of the millions of people who took it.  It's been over 2 years since the study.  Where are all the prion deaths?
https://epi.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/Classic-CJD-fact-sheet.pdf
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/creutzfeldt-jakob-disease-cjd/symptoms/#:~:text=Familial%20CJD%20has%20the%20same,rather%20than%20a%20few%20months.
>>13496
Yup, OP is a faggot once again who should kill himself
>>13521
I was in a meeting dude.
>>13526
Go back in and tell them it didnt work
>>13521
Also when I find a paper I like to read beyond the title and abstract.  If you want me to give you data give me time to read it before I post it.  I'm probably not going to give you the first thing I see.  I know this is probably an alien concept to antivaxxers.
>>13527
Meeting wasn't about your ass.
>>13525
>boohoo I can't defend my doomsday predictions.
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>>13488
well it convinced me not to take it.
>>13534
Even if we assumed VAERS was completely accurate those are nowhere near depopulation deathshot numbers.
>>13535
you aren't smart enough for this job
>>13534
>Sounds like the opinion of someone who's pretending like the doctors and establishments aren't ON RECORD paid per COVID diagnosis/death.
The individual doctors were getting pay offs?  First I've heard of that.  Where did this happen?  Show me.
>I know you don't think that your self induced retardation isn't serious, but I can assure you it is.
Let's see some proof.
>>13539
I mean no one has been able to answer my questions so I'm clearly smarter than the dumb asses in this thread clinging to revenge fantasies and rapture LARP.
>>13543
Again that could have been done with a GM bacteria and I like how the goal is now to make low IQ consoomers and not depopulation.
>>13545
Ok so they got Medicare benefits for treatments.  Yeah I can see how that would influence diagnosis.  I don't see how that would make them be in on a conspiracy to kill patients.

>Okay, are you ready to visit vaers.hhs.gov?
Show me the page and then tell me how that data shows that we are facing a depopulation death shot.
>>13547
The thread was started calling out the depopulation narrative.  I assumed you defended it because you believe in that horse shit.  Tell me your position.
>>13550
You made a claim back it up.  I'm not going to do your research for you.
>>13551
Well I'm pretty sure that for a depopulation shot to be effective the world's population needs to be going down.  That doesn't seem to be happening.  https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL tell me how depopulation works when the population is increasing.
>>13553
You just sent me to the VAERS page.  You didn't show any specific graphs or charts or anything.  If you had such data proving depopulation you would have posted it by now.
>>13556
>can I see your data
>I'M NOT SHOWING YOU!
You're not going to show them because something proving depopulation doesn't exist.
>>13558
They were initially over 90% effective but as time went on the immunity slowly wore off and the virus mutated they became less effective.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison
Here's Yale cry about it.  It isn't uncommon for viruses to mutate or immunity to wane over time.  Plenty of other vaccines require boosters like tetanus or lose efficacy with new strains like the flu vaccine.
>>13561
Project warpspeed started in May of 2020 the rollout was in December 2020...  this going somewhere?
>>13563
>If they were able to develop a vaccine that was 90% effective, in seemingly record time as the pandemic was developing, why such a sharp drop off in efficacy over the years?
Probably because it was rushed.

>Are you suggesting we lost the technology to develop effective vaccines?
Flu vaccines are rarely anywhere close to 90% effective.  That doesn't mean they don't save lives.  A vaccine does not need to be 100% effective to be helpful.
>>13564
And how does the vaxx not being as effective as initially hoped prove some depopulation scheme?
>>13565
>there's no way for either of us to prove or debunk that depopulation isn't part of it?
I mean we can look outside and not see bodies on the streets or hospitals bursting at the seems.  It's been over 4 years. I would like you to refer to this post here >>13490
>>13567
You didn't provide any data.  You told me to comb through a database and do your research for you.  That's just dishonest gish gallop and you know it.
>>13570
Then pull up the data that proves the world is being depopulated.  You people had over 4 years.  If you had something like that you would have posted it by now.
>>13573
I don't want to have to comb through gigabytes of data.  You have something to prove your point then post it.
>>13576
If you have a chart or table you want me to look at go ahead and show me.
>>13579
>VAERS reported 34,385 deaths, 192,146 hospitalizations, and 1,521,347 adverse events. [21] [22] [23] Multiplying the numbers above by 41, the deaths and injuries are astronomical: 1,409,785 deaths, 7,877,986 hospitalizations, and 62,375,227 adverse events, 
"Adverse events" can be as benign as a headache.  Not too concerned there, but nearly 8,000,000 aditonal hospitalizations and 1,400,000 million deaths every year would have been very noticeable.  Multiplying by 41 seems to be a gross overestimate here.  Like go drive to your nearest hospital.  Does it look like we are seeing 8 million new hospitalizations every year?

And who is this guy.
>John D Wyndham
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Wyndham
>Scientists for 9/11 Truth
PhD in physics not biology.
>>13579
>arcjournals

https://beallslist.net/
ARC Journals
>>13584
You posted an article in a predatory journal from a member of "scientists for 9/11 truth"
>>13585
>>13587
Think you might have something a little better than that?  Preferably something that isn't from a journal on beallslist.net?  Even more preferable if it is from nature or cell.
>>13589
See I notice this is a common pattern among antivaxxers.  You commonly cite predatory journals, act as if they are gospel, and then get upset when people call out your bullshit.  If you had something better than this you would have posted it.
>>13587
>He believes the official 9/11 story
KEK
>>13592
I don't.  I think the government knew about it, funded it, and let it happen.  I don't think they planted bombs in the building.  Heat stress from a 7 hour uncontrolled burn explains building 7.
>>13593
They say open with your best, and the first actual data you linked came from a predatory journal.  That's kind of sad.  Let me guess it was the first result you found and you didn't even read it or check the validity of the journal?
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>>13595
>Heat stress from a 7 hour uncontrolled burn explains building 7
kek what other 2000 IQ takes do you have anon? enlighten us
>>13601
Dude you posted fucking journal from beallslist
>>13599
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KMvCWFCoVN4&pp=ygUbSGVhdCBzdHJlc3MgOS8xMSBidWlsZGluZyA3
9/11 was jews. it was retaliation for the first 9/11 aka Tisha B'Av (9 in 11) which occurred in 72AD. there were no planes on 9/11, only bombs. 

COVID was jews. COVID is the kabbalistic concept of demonic possession reversed -- DIVOC. 

CORONA stands for -- Coordinate Routing Nano-networks (https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2800795.2800809)

The 19 is numerological signalling corresponding to the position of the first and ninth letters of our alphabet -- A and I. 

Thus "COVID 19" means something akin to "Demonic AI". 

All the known world is under a communistic-satanic judeo-masonic dictatorship at this moment of my writing. That you fell for their "scary virus quick take my vaccine cure!" marketing scam is beyond laughable. Your credulity has cost so many of us our former lives (we, who took no vaccine, but suffered the raging gullibility of the goyim for four unending years). 

The purpose of ((( their ))) virus hoax was indeed depopulation. Interpreting Judaism as a longstanding cult-system whose singular purpose is the thinning of the number of living goyim is a sound interpretation. Everywhere in their Talmud you may read how vehemently their "sages" advise them to weaken and kill goyim wherever this can be done discreetly and effectively. Feminism, transgenderism, anti-natalism, mass immigration, vaccines, wars, veganism, abortion, even pornography, are all jewish weapons designed with the unambiguous purpose of cratering the number of existing gentiles. You will have observed that in all of these satanic depopulating projects *gradualness of effect* is a key strategic characteristic. Expecting everyone all at once to drop to the floor and die is insulting to the practiced plotting intelligence of the murderous wealthy jews behind this crime. Have you not noticed how much older everyone looks (all the vaccinated have aged 2-3 decades in 2-3 years)? 

Please stop taking vaccines. I will freely say that I never knew humanity was this stupid. I was and remained genuinely shocked.
>>13609
That is some powerful schizo shit.
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>>13608
>watch my zogslop youtube cope video
no
>>13611
Of course the dude linking predatory journals would believe such nonsense.
>>13615
for someone making appeals to authority its funny you are discounting a PhDs opinion on the topic because he doesn't share yours
>>13616
I'm discounting it because it is a gross overestimation (go look at any hospital right now and tell me if it looks like we are seeing 8 million new patients a year),  because the dude doesn't have a biology background, and because the journal is in bealls list.
>>13617
How do you look at schizo shit like that and not feel some sort of second hand embarrassment that it is heavily associated with the antivaxx movement?
>>13618
im talking about his position on 9/11 fuckwit
>>13621
The fact that he makes publications in journals on bealls list is enough for me to discount his position.  Remember that thread on fake degrees?  I posted a link to bealls list so people could make fake publications too.  I posted that link because those journals will accept any bullshit if you give them money.
>>13622
Sorry you don't have any evidence the sky is falling outside of quack blogs and preditory journals.
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>>13623
>>13625
You know any bioweapons where people are asymptomatic for years after exposure before suddenly dropping dead?
Also
>asking his opposition to prove a negative.
Typical.
>>13626
You believe journals on bealls list are good, because?
>>13629
Where did I do that?
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>>13628
His PhD in Physics is from Cambridge 

https://scientistsfor911truth.com/john-d-wyndham

and you think you know more than him about physics because the TalmudVision said so. 

Obviously your intuition for what is true and your ability to resist propaganda are dogshit and you should be permabanned until you lurk for about 40 years.
>>13632
How so?  I asked you to prove it was a depopulation deathshot.
>>13631
Even in Cambridge there are frauds and cheats.  A good way to tell is if they are posting in predatory journals.
>>13634
I can be pretty fucking sure.  The lack of dead bodies, the lack of massive disability rates, the fact that birth rates haven't cratered...  I mean I technically can't prove that life isn't simulation but I can be pretty damn sure that it isn't because I have no reason to believe that I'm in one.
>>13636
We had this discussion.  Started around 90 decreases over time.

How many dead vaxxies are there?
>>13640
>Well google says the same thing so it must be true :^)
Buddy your the one linking preditory journals.  I have cited pubmed and Yale.

>Millions
How many millions?  How do you know?  How does that number compare to the 5.55 billion people who took the fucking thing?
>>13642
20 million/5.55 billion = 0.0036036036
0.0036036036*100 = .3604%
Wow that's a spooky depopulation death shot.  Also every source on your list is full of shit.  Facebook boomer garbage.
>>13644
I'm glad you made it.  Shows people the kind of places antivaxxers get their information from.
>>13647
>I bet you wish you could drop dead on the spot rather than waiting for co-morbidites.
Yup pretty sure I only have 14 days to live.
>>13649
We can at least agree on the 14 words.  We wouldn't be here if we didn't.
>>13651
You think I'm a shill because I shit on a narrative that has produced failed doomsday predictions for 4 years straight.  I'm pretty active here outside of shit talking antivaxxers.  Pretty sure the reason I'm not banned is because mods know I'm not a shill.  I think they can see post history.
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>>13652
There are approximately 3 active mods on Ourchan, and I don't think any of them care enough, besides Jackal
And I only think you're a shill because you're literally shilling the vax.
Which I stopped assuming, briefly, when you agreed to make this thread, but you have shill-level debate skills.
So wether you glow or not isn't for me to decide at this point, but you are quite literally shilling for a bio-weapon which appears to have killed 20+ million people if you search anything besides Google.
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>>13653
Sorry for ID change BTW, I'm about to go find some real shills to bully on 4chan.
This thread is BOORRIINNGG
>>13653
>shill-level debate skills.
Elaborate.  Is this because I refuse to accept journals on bealls list or facebook boomer blogs?
>>13653
And I'm not saying you should go get the thing.  I'm saying it isn't a depopulation shot.
>>13658
>Well it's mostly your dismissiveness of literally any point I try to show you
Yeah I'm going to need convincing evidence if you are going to tell me 5.55 billion people will drop dead and handing me blogs, disreputable news outlets, a predatory journal, or a database with zero context isn't really going to convince anyone.  Like if I wanted to convince a shitlib that niggers commit more crime I would go to the FBI's website and link this exact table.  https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-43
Notice how all the numbers are right there nobody has to search for anything and everyone can see what I am talking about.  Claims given without evidence can be dismissed without evidence and the larger the claim the better the evidence should be.
>>13661
I understand your frustration.
But if you really wanted to debunk this, it would require going over the raw data yourself
>submitting a data request
something you said you don't wanna do.
>>13662
Again refer to the FBI table.  See how everything I would need to convince my opponent of my point is right there and everyone can see it so they can't get out of it?  See how it is from a reputable source and difficult to dismiss?  Give me something like that.
>>13664
> the FBI table
Okay, where is your data set that will convince me it's not a bioweapon?
All you have is "there's not a pile of dead bodies literally outside my window" as an argument.
> See how it is from a reputable source and difficult to dismiss?  Give me something like that.
I gave it to you, it's called the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
found at https://vaers.hhs.gov
Are you saying that's not credible?
Or that doing the work to find out could render your entire world-view obsolete?
If so, I understand your hesitation, and preference to spending all night arguing with me, rather than facing the facts.
>>13665
>Are you saying that's not credible?
Honestly I don't think it is as credible as you believe it is as literally anyone can make a claim.  Even VAERS says it's data varies in quality.  https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html. and I don't want the website I want a table like in the fbi example.  Notice how I gave exactly what was needed and directed to the exact table that showed what I wanted it to show.  I didn't link fbi.gov and call it a day.  I showed the exact table that has the information I'm trying to convince people is true.  I don't expect others to do my homework for me.  I get the feeling you don't know where to find that information and that is why you aren't giving me an exact location.
>>13666
>Honestly I don't think it is as credible as you believe 
So you're saying millions of people are willing to commit fraud in their own name to post false information about a vaccine that works as intended?
>I don't want the website I want a table
And I want you to get another booster shot, at this rate.
> Notice how I gave exactly what was needed and directed to the exact table that showed what I wanted it to show.
Notice how I've been trying to do this for you, all night, even trying several times to explain how you could create your own table of data to support your argument.
> I don't expect others to do my homework for me
Yet you expect experimental MRNA gene therapy prepared by a global government entity ahead of a pandemic scheduled seemingly just in time to overthrow an election to keep you from getting the sniffles....
>I get the feeling you don't know where to find that information and that is why you aren't giving me an exact location.
Good luck with your next booster.
I'm gonna go now!
>>13665
>Okay, where is your data set that will convince me it's not a bioweapon?
I can show you world population stats as I did in this thread.  I can show you the disability claims have not significantly increased in recent years as I did in the last thread.  I can, of course, also point to the lack of dead bodies after 4 years.  You understand that bioweapons like those devoloped in the Cold War do not take years for symptoms to appear right?  Why would this one be any different?
>>13669
Bye bye vaxxie.
Go get your next booster.
>>13488
There's a shitton of actual literal own side psyops and actual misinformation and a ton of retarded channers.

It became a kind of psychological war that invoked body disgust, to the point where antivaxxers adopted a mindset that anyone who took the vax will actually, no actually, go to hell by poisoning their soul with it.
Paranoia about breathing the same air as vaxxers.

Look, there are actual virological bioweapons that can fuck up your genes they could just spray from airplanes or put into the water supply.
The COVID virus itself had most of the same harmful effects as the vax if you got a bad case of it. Same spike proteins. But the same retards who are antivax fanatics think the virus is fake out of some paranoid sense of the virus and vax issues, which are scientific issues, being about power and whether you do what they tell you to do, mmmaaaannnnn.

So, to get this out of the way:
The virus is a bioweapon largely made by Jews/US gov. They lied about it.
The best I can guess about it is that it was incomplete/accidental or part of a kind of "stress event" to fuck with Trump. I assume a fuck ton of data was collected on human behavior and quietly on epidemiology and the "next" virus will be perfectly designed to kill retards if they decide to go that way.
Covid was actually bad. It did very fucked up shit like hide in your cells and use proteins from snake venom DNA to mask your symptoms and pain so you didn't know you were sick. Patients with 80% blood oxygen didn't report any distress.
It seems the omicron variant was an inevitable lesser strain, or a vaccine strain by white hats, and/or the experiment being called off.

Most covidtard arguments are meat brained.
>why were there suddenly no flu deaths it must have been reported as COVID
No, retards. Remember those massive lockdowns you kvetched about? They fucking actually had some effect
>then why did COVID spread?
Because it was that contagious

There are things about covid that are weird. It's so infection and it's superspreading and airborne. This means random things like
>It massively infects 50% of a room even if it's 10,000 people in there, but then everyone gets temporary immunity and it stops spreading for a while
This means it had apparent surges, but smoothed over the long run, covid was relatively slow spreading, it just busted through containment easily
>If you're outside, it's hard to catch
Masks outside was retarded, then again, people would huddle together under an umbrella and catch it so like, don't be up in someone's face either
>airborne
No need for all the hand sanitizer and plastic over food and bullshit
>t cell immunity
Is impossible to study as t cell lines and dangerous viruses are like 2 labs in the country, but as impossible as it is to study, t cell immunity is almost certainly why covid wasn't worse. massive blindspot by some medical types on not taking this more seriously

It also means that people seemed like they got worse sickness if they had a higher upfront "dose" of the virus. This is impossible to study since you'd have to control dosages and deliberately infect people. Masks legit, like actually block most of the water particles which carry the viral dose and substantially lower viral dose and are not a waste of time, especially N95 masks. 
>hurr but no study ever has
And retards will wear masks 99% of the day but take them off to eat for 10 minutes and chat with their friend and catch the virus then, making it seem like the mask didn't work
And like I said, it's literally impossible to study viral dose effect on health outcomes so while masks almost certainly make a difference, no you're not going to have a study with a population analysis p value to show they do.

Another problem is scientists don't know why a lot of people never seem to catch COVID or seem to catch it if tested but don't seem sick, don't feel sick, and we don't know if they spread it to other people. They literally don't know. It could be some dumb shit about your sinus bone shape filters the virus or something.

Leading to...
Japan's government used the coof ship as an illegal human experiment and figured out a lot of the epidemiology about COVID.
Japan's government
>systematically refused to test
>based their half-assed disease response on secret information from their experiment but never admitted to that
The refusal to test convinces some retards that Japan "didn't have lockdowns but had no virus problem". They had a massive virus problem, it wasn't recorded into statistics. Different Japanese agencies were shaming each other through passive aggressive memos about this.
However, Japan did at least understand things about how the virus spreads in "spurts" and has a weird way of affecting tons of people in a room but then not affecting others.

Ideally the US government would have studied the epidemiology more fastidiously, and by 1.5 months in had a very clear response plan with testing and sewage testing set up, and ended all lockdowns in favor of a sort of "be cautious for the next 2 weeks in this area" system that we had circa 2022. By summer 2021 it should have all been over. The government massively fucked up and just wanted the American people to twirl thumbs and do kabuki until the vaccine was out.

The best take on the vaccine was that if you're over 50 maybe take it but otherwise the risk is actually on parity from just catching the virus.
That to me is the clearest way to present the risk level of the vaccine.
They did massively lie about its harmfulness.
One reason was pharma profits.
One reason was it became political and about "owning MAGA".
Banning ivermectin was retarded.

The vax is toxic like ALL mrna tech ends up being toxic since there's no dosage control the liver just fucking pumps out what it's told to do.
The spike protein is not bad per se, but the type of thing that it is becomes extremely toxic at the high doses experienced. It's like blood asbestos, is the best way to put it.
It may cause health problems and cancers from damage the way asbestos does.
Then again, COVID may have long term health features too.
Avoiding the vaccine was probably smart.

The vax is not red deer.
It's not gene therapy. It's not a death timer. The study where rats died after 2 years is because you euthanize them after 2 years. The experimental vax isn't why they died.
Most of the harm from the vax seems to come shortly after you take it, so just don't get boosters anymore if you took it
>it's in my DNA
Yes, retarded faggot. All viruses and antigens that cause an immune response get encoded into DNA for the immunity of future generations. It's why we don't have black plague or anglo-saxon disease anymore.
You read some grifting fake MD who reported a basic fact of science and you interpreted it in the most retarded way. Congrats.

There, that's the facts on the whole covid bullshit.

When the next (real) virus hits, a lot of you retards are just going to go out and catch it and die.
>>13501
Yeah I remember hearing someone jumped in a lake and died of a heart attack and it was blamed on the vax so I looked it up pre-2019 and there was an article with the same story every 2-3 years.
>>13667
>So you're saying millions of people are willing to commit fraud in their own name to post false information about a vaccine that works as intended
I don't necessarily think it was fraud.  Maybe they attributed something to the vaxx that wasn't caused by the vaxx.  If they don't have a medical background how would they know?

>Notice how I've been trying to do this for you, all night, even trying several times to explain how you could create your own table of data to support your argument.
No you haven't told me how to use that site.

>Yet you expect experimental MRNA gene therapy prepared by a global government entity ahead of a pandemic scheduled seemingly just in time to overthrow an election to keep you from getting the sniffles....
Is it a poorly understood expirement or a bioweapon?  Why use an expirement as a bioweapon when they've had GM bacteria for decades?

>Good luck with your next booster.
If you don't have the info you don't have the info.  You would have posted something convincing to shut me up if you had it.

>I'm gonna go now!
Bye!
>>13675
Wait, are you saying we could settle this if I showed you how to submit a data request, in return for you submitting to me your full understanding of what's in the shots and how it's not harmful?
If so, I've already told you how several times, and am patiently awaiting your response!
>>13678
Show me the data request and the exact data you need for me to see that the vaxx is the poison you claim it is.
>>13673
I'm so glad I'm not alone in believing the die off is absolute horse shit.  Thank you.
>>13679
Okay, here you go
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8

You can figure out how to navigate a goverment website right?
Shouldn't take longer than the time you've invested ITT.
>exact data you need for me to see that the vaxx is the poison you claim it is.
Let's start with... anything!
Go ahead :^)
>>13681
OK I ask it to sort by vaccine type and serious and I get a 504.  That isn't very helpful.
>>13682
>That isn't very helpful.
Takes one to know one.
It's alright, we have time before your heart seizes.
>>13683
Why not just show the data you want to show?  Is it because you don't have it?
>>13684
You're the one that wants it, this is your thread, based on your world-view.
I'm just here to answer your questions.
It's not my fault your DNA has been so spliced and damaged you can't summon the courage to look into it for yourself.
>>13674
I suspect a lot of those posts are psyops.  Antivaxxers often won't look into the headlines.  Another common tactic is to post headlines of a celebrity with a history of cancer coming down with cancer or a habitual drug user dying of anything and blaming it on the vaxx.
>>13686
You don't have any data.  I understand.  Thank you anon.
>>13687
>Antivaxxers often won't look into the headlines
That's nothing compare to the way vax-shills REFUSE to look at VAERS data

>>13688
Yup, VAERS doesn't exist.
What a great thread
LOL
Alright seriously this time, you blew it.
BYE
>>13689
I told you what I wanted you couldn't provide it.  You don't have the data to prove me wrong if you did you would have posted it.  You even tried earlier with the predatory journal but I called you out in it and that didn't go as you hoped it would.  You have something to back up your view or your don't and clearly you don't.
>>13689
>>13690

I also really don't want to download a raw CSV.  I'm phone posting.  Don't understand why you can't post a table or something.  Actually do, it's because you don't have anything reputable that shows what you want it to show.
>>13696
So what exactly makes you cling to the bioweapon shit 4 years later?  Is it revenge fantasy or rapture larp?
>>13701
So revenge fantasy.
>>13705
You're welcome.
>>13609
150 IQ

>>13673
"Covid" doesn't even exist. A ghost plague psychologically engineered into existence by jewish media masters was enough to get ~95% of the world's people to inject themselves with an unknown drug cocktail, for free!
>>13718
I'm not sure that more famous people are dying now then in years before.  Antivaxxers love to post random deaths and smugly post "vaxx status?" without any look into prior medical history.  Go search for celebrity or athlete deaths prior to the vaxx.  You will find plenty.
The coof vax, like all actual vaccines, is about reduction in fertility. Bill Gates makes it clear whenever he talks about vaccines and health care initiatives, it's about reducing fertility.

The post on world population growth is on point, in spite of all the doom mongering about declining birth rates in developed countries - which is meant to reduce resistance to migration - the world population is on an exponential growth curve. The powers that be are trying desperately to throttle that back to stop catastrophic collapse of the world's economy which will mean mass starvation and cannibalism and the billions dead that everyone here is fantasizing about.

People don't realise how fertile human females can be if food is not a limitation. A single human female can produce 10 to 20 children over her reproductive lifetime and that is happening in some high fertility regions.

The coof debacle backfired to the extent that it's made a lot of people vaccine hesitant. It was never meant to outright kill people that would have been even more counter-productive than it turned out to be.

Of course because jews are in charge the profitability for plutocrats of the whole exercise was important baked in feature, that can never be missed from the equation.
>>13722
>The coof vax, like all actual vaccines, is about reduction in fertility.
Then why did it not significantly reduce fertility?

>Bill Gates makes it clear whenever he talks about vaccines and health care initiatives, it's about reducing fertility.
Bill Gates is a faggot not a doctor.
>>13723
Because the places with highest fertility have the least effective systems to deliver the vaccines. The people and places where vax uptake was most successful were those where it won't make any difference anyway since fertility was already well under control.

Also you need to brush up on your math some more. Dialing back on exponential growth takes some doing.

India has had many compulsory sterilization programmes but hasn't made any real dent in population growth in India and I doubt the vax will do much either.

Bill Gates being a doctor or not has nothing to with anything.
>>13724
Germany didn't have a sharp fertility decline.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=DE
Neither did Italy 
Went from 1.3 to 1.2 after the bat soup whoop
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=IT

The U.S. and the UK didn't go through significant declines either.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=US&start=2014

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=GB&start=2011

All of these countries were on declines long before covid and the vaxx doesn't seem to have much of an impact here.
>>13710
>the virus is fake
>but the vaccine is real

I can play this game
>the moon landing is fake, space is fake
>Aliens are real though

>North Korea is fake
>It's also based

This is all just a version of 
>actually its a good thing
>>13689
Right and VAERS shows what?

>HOLY FUCK 200% increase in deaths in youth 20-30
How many people normally die in a year ages 20-30
>500
>now it's 1000, out of 40 million.

Yeah, the vaccine carried inappropriate risk and its benefits were overstated. They lied. Don't take it, don't get boosted.
If you're over 50 and COVID before Omicron was going around, do probably take the vaccine.
There's no red deer.
Sorry, no refunds.
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>>13539
OP IS A RETARDED FAGGOT
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>>13623
>Super deluxe toaster levels of retardtion
You're behind on your booters, OP.  Get it before you catch the bird flu
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>>13728
>Right and VAERS shows what?
Try not to interpret the data too...
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You guys are wasting your time talking to this idiot.  He seems to have no idea why drug trials run 10 years in some cases.  To gauge long term effects.  That's why we have drug trials.  We don't just mix up a batch of shit, feed it to the dog, and if it doesn't kill the dog immediately, we give it everybody.  They didn't even give this shit to the fucking dog.  They didn't even go that far with the testing.   Some new gene therapy, never attempted before in humans, never animal tested, human tested for 6 weeks.  You'd have to be a fucking fool to take that shit, or ignorant, or both.  

These people are like jews.  It doesn't matter what you say, he'll be right back her tomorrow spewing the same shit.  This guy is a lost cause, don't bother.  

Dalcon Shield, look it up OP, though it won't matter.  You'll be right back her tomorrow posting this same bullshit.
>>13725
You are retarded or you imagine everyone else here is.
>>13752

and this
>>13760

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>>13760
You consider a .1 drop in fertility over the course of 4 years to be significant, why?
>>13768
Still butthurt I read past the abstract on the papers you linked?
>>13771
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8946961/
>Our study shows that BNT162b2 can be reverse transcribed to DNA in liver cell line Huh7, and this may give rise to the concern if BNT162b2-derived DNA may be integrated into the host genome and affect the integrity of genomic DNA, which may potentially mediate genotoxic side effects. At this stage, we do not know if DNA reverse transcribed from BNT162b2 is integrated into the cell genome.

The funny thing is that antivaxxers will shit on science because of the replication crisis and then go on to cite a single unrepeated study using CELL CULTURES as their strongest piece of evidence.  And frankly as difficult as cell cultures are to work with this is probably your strongest piece of evidence for your case.  At least it is from more respectable than the Epoch Times.  A single study that no one has repeated done in a cancer cell culture...
>>13772
And we will go ahead and link that other paper to get an idea how often the reverse transcribed dna might be integrating into the genome.

https://doi.org/10.1038/sj.gt.3302213
>Using simple intramuscular injection, the vast majority of plasmid DNA that persists is extrachromosomal, and the frequency of integration, if it occurs at all, is negligible. Generally, the level of plasmid remaining associated with HMW genomic DNA after gel purification of the injected muscle DNA is between 1 and 30 copies/mg DNA (or per 150 000 diploid cells).8–12 Similar results were obtained in the nonelectroporated sample in the present study. The residual plasmid that remains with HMW genomic DNA following gel purification could represent integrated plasmid, but it is also possible that the residual plasmid is extrachromosomal. Purification procedures almost never yield 100% pure material, and one copy (o1 10 17g) of plasmid/mg genomic DNA represents an impurity level of o100 billionth by weight.10 However, even if the residual plasmid in the gel-purified genomic DNA did represent integrated plasmid, one copy of integrated plasmid/mg of genomic DNA (representing 150 000 diploid cells) would be at least three orders of magnitude below the frequency of spontaneous gene-inactivating mutations, using a worstcase analysis (see Ledwith et al10 for a discussion of this calculation).
The paper later goes on to discuss how other delivery mechanisms could make things worse.  But an intramuscular injection has a worst case scenario of integration at a rate three orders of magnitude lower than spontaneous mutations.  I don't think a phenomenon that rare is likely to cause an outbreak of widespread cancers.
>>13752
>Dalcon Shield
What of it?  An implant that stays in the body for six months at a time is very different from the vax.

>Some new gene therapy, never attempted before in humans, never animal tested, human tested for 6 weeks
Trials may have been a little rushed, but that is not reason to scream that it is a depopulation event especially when you don't have any supporting evidence for that.  All available evidence shows that the world has not ended and it is probably not going to.
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keep up the great spam disinfo shill all the anons are going to get vaxed for sure!
>>13775
It's been 4 years.  No one cares if you get the vaxx at this point.  Clinging to revenge fantasies and rapture LARP 4 years later when over 99% "vaxxies" are completely fine.  None of you have offered any evidence to support your beliefs either aside from some sketchy news outlets, a predatory journal, and a government website without any specified tables or charts.  If one of you had some kind of serious proof for your bullshit you would have posted it by now.  None of you have posted that and you won't because it doesn't exist.  You are clining to revenge fantasies or rapture LARP.
>>13776
*Clinging to revenge fantasies and rapture LARP 4 years later when over 99% "vaxxies" are completely fine is cringe.
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>>13779
Ok?  How many other businesses are controlled by kikes in shady fraternal organizations?  That is hardly rare among large businesses.  What is rare, even for kikes, is deliberately attempting to kill their customers.  Do you have any evidence that is happening.   I mean 4 years later surely you have some pretty solid evidence that 5.55 billion people are going to drop dead?  Right?
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>>13781
Ok a few cherry picked examples from social media of people dying immediately after the shot proves that 5.55 billion people will die 4 years later how?
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>>13783
The only things these prove is that there is a risk of heat complications immediately after the shot and no one disputes that those risks exist.  Even the FDA and CDC agree that those rare side effects exist.  Do you have something that is going to prove that 5.55 billion people are going to die 4 years later?  I mean you've only had 4 years to do your research.  Surely you have something better than social media posts?
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>pol is 1 person npc strawman spam
>pro clot shot revisionism spam
You are not intelligent enough for this job kys nigger debunk my dick lmao
>>13786
I'm not going to pretend it's a depopulation death shot when the world's population isn't declining.  It's been 4 years dude and I don't think all of /pol/ believes this retardation and thank God for that.
>>13786
>pol is 1 person npc strawman spam
Nowhere did I claim all of /pol/ believes this bullshit.  This thread is attacking the depopulation narrative because it is retarded.  You faggots had 4 years to prove the sky is falling.  You could have gotten a bachelor's degree in biology and undergrad publications during that time period.  Instead the best I have seen in this thread are predatory journals, links to government sites with no tables or context, sketch news like the blogging hounds, and social media screen caps.  Surely you people would have posted something convincing if you had it.
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We're never taking any vax or giving any real thought to any lying zogbots such as yourself paid to astroturf your jewish murder bioweapons begging to get spoonfed info. 

seethe and dilate you retarded fat nigger
>>13790
I really don't care if you take it.  I don't think anyone does at this point.  Pandemic is long over.

>astroturf your jewish murder bioweapons 
What bioweapon takes this long?  You understand the bioweapon stockpiles from the Cold War would have killed you pretty quick.  It's been 4 years and every day the depopulation position is harder to defend.

>begging to get spoonfed info. 
>boohoo don't make me defend my position please.  I don't have anything and the revenge fantasy is the only thing I have to live for.
>>13538
<and that is because of an arbitrary standard that i just made up based on feelings and emotions which are honest and valid
>>13773
>I don't think
You're absolutely right, put more emotion into it. Just because we have evidence of it having occurred does not mean the evidence is correct!
A man is a man but sometimes he's a woman. Thank god anon you made my day and made this xigender boymoder happy because i feel valid again
>>13814
I think at this point this guy just wants to prove to himself he was not retarded when shooting some tv-pushed juice in itself
 You deserve to die either way because you're cattle-tier 
 I don't give 2 fucks about your  anime nonexistent sister
>>13792
 no self respecting national-socialist group would accept cattle tier fucktards in it's ranks. go munch a dildo, you coward
even if the vaxx is 'safe' it was ,proven to be inefficient and redundant in the long run, they made trillions out of it. You just injected some juice and called it a day, now you're expecting everyone that dropped dead to be labelled as vaccinated and written on vaers or some comical bs like that. Maybe you even want them on your front lawn
>>13812
The world's population has to be declining for it to be depopulated.  The numbers from VAERS do not show the world population is declining.

>You're absolutely right, put more emotion into it. Just because we have evidence of it having occurred does not mean the evidence is correct!
Something happening at a rate 1000x lower (3 orders of magnitude) than the rate of spontaneous mutations is causing a widespread cancer epidemic.   That's bullshit and you know it.  If you have something that suggests that it is happening at higher rate then post that and actually fucking read it this time.
>>13824
or they just made trillions of dollars on a bullshit vaxx while shitting the economy in every country that ate the bullshit up. Who cares at this point , right?
 say it with me: Caaatttleee-tieeer
>>13826
Again I never advocated for the shutdowns and I said they were stupid even at the time.  I am specifically talking about the depopulation narrative being stupid because it is.
>>13823
> no self respecting national-socialist group would accept cattle tier fucktards in it's ranks
Good luck alienating the majority of Whites especially the Whites in the professional classes and White women.  We need men of all hats to win this.
>>13828
I am specifically talking about the cattle tier pig stains that took it up the ass because they were afraid of the neo-coof
>even if the vaxx is 'safe' it was ,proven to be inefficient and redundant in the long run, they made trillions out of it
Don't be upset when people call out a narrative that was proven false.  Yeah there was abuse and that wasn't good, but it wasn't the literal end of the world.

>now you're expecting everyone that dropped dead to be labelled as vaccinated and written on vaers or some comical bs like that.
I'm expecting some evidence that the world's population is declining after 4 years of this shit.  It would be pretty difficult to hide hundreds of millions or billions of dead bodies.
>>13831
>I am specifically talking about the cattle tier pig stains that took it up the ass because they were afraid of the neo-coof
So you're upset they took trusted doctors over whatever bullshit this is?  >>13642
What about people who have to see patients or work with medicine or have immunocompromized family members or simply don't like getting sick.  You don't sperg out about people who take the flu vaccines and they take those for the same reasons.
>Yeah there was abuse and that wasn't good, but it wasn't the literal end of the world
 Nobody cares at this point, don't you get it? They fucked entire economies and divided everybody even further. You keep pushing your bodies out of sky mantra, NOBODY cares. 
 You took it like a pussy, and expect to be respected ? 
 Nobody respects cattle,  especially the people injecting them
>>13642
nah, this guy is some schizo oldman with other baseless fantasies about satanic worship, not many of us take him seriously
>>13834
I'm upset that everyone that was afraid enough ate that shit up like it was a SF end of the world
>population declining
 yes, the cattle are getting even more stupid by the year
 I'm done
>>13836
>Nobody cares at this point, don't you get it? 
Clearly they do.  People are pretty upset that I called the depopulation shit retarded and I still see covid vaxx 2 more weeks threads on 4/pol/

>They fucked entire economies and divided everybody even further.
That was not a good thing and I have said as much.  And how is "all vaxxies deserve to die" rhetoric not dividing people?

>yes, the cattle are getting even more stupid by the year
You have something to show then show it.  The global population has increased since the vaxx rollout.  Yes birthrates are declining but they were doing that well before the vaxx.
>>13836
>nah, this guy is some schizo oldman with other baseless fantasies about satanic worship, not many of us take him seriously
You understand how it must look to an outsider when such people aren't called on their bullshit in your circles, right?
>>13673
Made the best post in this thread.  There were absolutely psyops targeted to /ourguys/.
>>13838
 I don't care about "online outsiders", I don't live here
 The guy made an interesting post, you like him, based on what "scientific data" would his theory be real ? Japan hid their findings but china didn't ? China- the ones that forbid pregnancies not long ago? 
 You want data, let the poster prove some of his theory, otherwise I'm just standing on my theory of 'bullshit, forced, coerced, lying, d/c, manipulation, money-making' psy-op
 Based on the guy's long and pretty good read, what do you expect in the future? Genuine question. A real pandemic killing the not so gullible?
 Or should we keep on track with WEF about : localized wars, famines, slow decline of population. << this coudl be read back in 2019-2021, if you can remember.  You said you don't give a shit about bill gates but he was pretty much involved lmao
 You don't care about phds in physics, but schwab and gates can have a say ? Remember build back better? The new normal?
 I'm not here to argue anymore, but please stop expecting "5.5 gorillion deaths in 5 years"
, and stop the sister bullshit. 
 Let's have a real talk
>>13673
Which LLM did you use for this?
>>13898
correction: I don't have online circles, and don't care about "outsiders"
 and yes, I'm talking about the guy with the long post claiming covid was some wierd virus that infected 50% in a room, but out of 50% only 20% showed symptoms while the virus was jumping from sim to sim like in a game. While claiming masks were good because droplets contained etc etc
 Also claiming japan hid their findings but chinks didn't..  I find that to be a long strech
 Show me some data, or "proof", just like you claim
 Also I see people claim demons and shit, muh fucking "online circles"
 eh 
just answer the basics
>>13898
reeesending this post to emphasize the real questions
>>13838
one more good question: where did the japanese hid their findings along with the piling bodies you so wish to see ? By your claims it would be impossible to hide something like that
how did one fucking anon form this theory that you cling so much too? 
 let's talk real.. no demons, no masons
>>13898
I haven't mentioned my sister once in this thread and no if the dude with a physics PhD is publishing in a predatory journal I don't really care what he has to say.  Same for any other PhD posting in a predatory journal.  Shwab and gate do want to totalitarianism no doubt there, but the lack bodies indicates they aren't using a vaxx to do that.

>I'm not here to argue anymore, but please stop expecting "5.5 gorillion deaths in 5 years"
How many deaths should I expect and when?  Because I have not seen any evidence that world's population is declining. 

>what do you expect in the future? Genuine question. A real pandemic killing the not so gullible?
I expect that we will see more means for the kikes to consolidate control.  I don't think we will have another pandemic.  I don't think they would try that again.
>>13905
>where did the japanese hid their findings along with the piling bodies you so wish to see ? By your claims it would be impossible to hide something like that
You can only fudge the data so much before even normie journos would take notice.  Hundreds of millions of people would need to be dying by now for the depopulation narrative to make sense.  And something no one can seem to answer is my question at the beginning of the thread. >>13490
>>13900
I cast magic missile
>>13907
>You can only fudge the data so much before even normie journos would take notice
 I can claim the same about deaths along entire continents , I'm still calling on a decline curve over a long time just like bill gates and schwab 'predicted'. Why do you leave them out of the conversation ?
 Why do you think every death would be recorded as "from the vaxx/covid" after the whole shitshow stopped so suddenly in 2 years? Deaths will be deaths, doesn't matter if "sudden" "myocarditis" etc. 
  You should take into account the massive importation of nigger cattle in every country 
 Real question : what is your opinion on this massive psyop ?
 Let's ignore the fact that you were afraid and took unnecessary shots in your system (that could be potentially backstabbing, as this whole operation)
>>13919
on  another note: localized wars appeared suddenly after this whole "end of the world" scenario. -klaus
 russia> ukraine .. israel > gaza. some african continent backwaters idgaf ...
 just localized yknow, just like in "predictions"
you still think they wanted to 'stress trump' > like the big text you like? Looks generated but w.e
>>13919
>I'm still calling on a decline curve over a long time just like bill gates and schwab 'predicted'. 
Honestly I think the WEF types aren't as powerful as many in our circles believe them to be and that sounds like 2 more weeks cope.  Please refer to the question I posted at the start of this thread.

>Why do you think every death would be recorded as "from the vaxx/covid" after the whole shitshow stopped so suddenly in 2 years? Deaths will be deaths, doesn't matter if "sudden" "myocarditis" etc. 
I think we would see a lot more death and destruction if it were a bioweapon.  I don't think they would be necessarily recorded as vaxx deaths, but I think we would see a lot more deaths if it was designed to kill people.

>Real question : what is your opinion on this massive psyop ?
I think world powers panicked over leaked "bioweapon" that ended up being a dud and rushed a shitty product to market during an election year to score points.  I think shitlibs used to chaos to grab power and turn the screws on their enemies.  I don't think depopulation is the agenda.  As I said.  It has been 4 years.

> russia> ukraine .. israel > gaza. some african continent backwaters idgaf ...
Russia and Ukraine started shit long before the vax.  Remember Crimea?  And Israel and Palestinian didn't exactly have a buddy buddy relationship either before the vaxx.  Anyone could have predicted those countries would have problems.
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>>13674
OP blown the fuck out
>>13680
you didn't read it nigger
>>13927
I didn't agree with the "blood asbestos" thing but. 

>The vax is not red deer.
>It's not gene therapy. It's not a death timer. >The study where rats died after 2 years is because you euthanize them after 2 years. The experimental vax isn't why they died.
>Most of the harm from the vax seems to come shortly after you take it, so just don't get boosters anymore if you took it
Is basically the exact shit I am saying.
>>13927
 I'm inclined to think the same. I stopped reading after "japan hid their bs" while "china enforced lockdowns to keep the safety of citizens" crap. 
 Muh "50% infection in a room, delayed transmission and symptoms. Poltards are stupid, trust me. The elites were afraid and they pulled off '(after releasing this massive infection that can touch everyone in a room").. oh and the mask bullshit because droplets
 Myuh, ce plm sa mai crezi
>>13928
who the hell thinks the vax harm comes shortly  anymore? It did in some recipients , maybe, you still think 5 years is a good gauge in your statistics building case? It may take 3 generations to even see something if it was just sterlization.
 Just a theory, but a plausible one
 These facts still remain: enforced lockdowns were bullshit, enforced vaccinations in workers was even more bullshit, masked 1.5 m distance is and will still be bullshit even when talking about the flu. Closed businesses, and curfews .. 
> distancing 
 what?
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>>13936
> It may take 3 generations to even see something if it was just sterlization.
Oh come on dude.  What substance behaves like that?  This is 2 more weeks cope.  First it was red deer, then the vaxxening, then that ridiculous blue elk which I hope no one hear believed, now it is going to be your "great grandkids will be sterile"
Look I get that you were strong armed and that wasn't okay, but at some point you're gonna have to face that the predictions aren't coming true.

>These facts still remain: enforced lockdowns were bullshit, enforced vaccinations in workers was even more bullshit, masked 1.5 m distance is and will still be bullshit even when talking about the flu. Closed businesses, and curfews .. 
Yeah and all of that can be explained by over reacting officials and power tripping leftoids.  Not everything has to be a grand plan.
>>13938
>Oh come on dude.  What substance behaves like that? 
Do you know what experimental mRNA gene therapy does, anon?
>>13938
we both don't know how the gene therapy works. Let's be real.. spike proteins do what , in your opinion? Wtf are we even talking about on this subject.?
>Yeah and all of that can be explained by over reacting officials and power tripping leftoid 
 what?
>Look I get that you were strong armed and that wasn't okay
what? 
 you're still coping with this "leftoid" rhetoric when in reality we both know the real right doesn't even exist anymore. You still really think this was for trump's/the right stress? Are you still gullible my fucking bovine, overeacting officials? You seem so sure of yourself :| 
 I'm done with this thread, you're either reaching, because you're retarded or a shill - 
but I find you too retarded to be a shill
>>13939
nah man, he trusts the doctors that insisted on respirators and vaccines because they were given xp and gold on short term
 who cares man, they were doctors, everybody else is wrong, even if everything looks like a  commie bullshit propaganda
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>>13943
The way his priorities shifted from shilling his vaccine to 'own' the anti-vaxxers, to suddenly crying about race mixing is really making me horny. 
I think I'm going to go find a boosted mulatto leftist with green hair to spit in my mouth and give me VAIDS
>>13939
this is good question..
>>13944
green/pink haired festival/concert meat is on the table, you just need some weed or shroomies.. no need for mulatto. And patience to listen to that fucking music in small crowds of "ahahahaha""yooo, brooo" retards.
 But I digress, everybody needs a fuck
>>13939
From what I have seen there is nothing to suggest that it does anything like what you are suggesting 3 generations later.  Other mRNA organisms like viruses and viroids don't behave anything like that.

>>13942
>You still really think this was for trump's/the right stress? Are you still gullible my fucking bovine, overeacting officials? You seem so sure of yourself 
Yeah I do.  And I'm sure of myself because I'm pretty certain the doomsday predictions are wrong.  Information is only as valuable as its predictive power and none of the doomsday predictions have come remotely close to true.

>he trusts the doctors that insisted on respirators and vaccines because they were given xp and gold on short term
I trust them more than the shit I've seen in this thread.
>>13944
I can dismantle a doomsday predictions and be upset about mods advocating racemixing at the same time you know...
>>13948
When is your next booster shot and how many threads do you want to bake until you tell us?
>>13949
I'll get one in two more weeks right after 5.55 billion people drop dead.
>>13950
You don't sound very serious about it 
How's the science going to work if you don't believe in it?
>>13951
Why would anything require my belief?
>>13953
Well you obviously believe a lot of things and get angry when other people don't believe them so you tell me
>>13954
Look man I have stated earlier why I think the antivaxx narrative is harmful. >>13492
On top of the previously listed reasons the belief that all your ideological enemies will drop dead discourages meaningful actions.  Why bother with setting up communities or learning skills when all your enemies will die in just two more weeks and you will inherit the Earth just by sitting your ass?
>>13955
I see what you're trying to say. 
I also see your actions. 
Kek
>>13956
>I also see your actions. 
We were having great discussions here on starting a community before the nigger spammer drove people away.  I've been working and saving money for land.  I've learned how to use 3D printers and I'm starting to dick around with an m5stickc. (you should look into that device bulgaria anon you would have a lot of fun)  I improve myself and learn new skills all the time.
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>>13957
What made you suddenly decide to dedicate your life to sliding the honk FM thread where we were making political music to demoralize kikes?
It seems like ever since I brought up the VAERs data you've been on the defensive...
Should we start working on a vaccine to protect you from race mixers?
>>13959
>What made you suddenly decide to dedicate your life to sliding the honk FM thread where we were making political music to demoralize kikes?
It's a slow board and those were the (you)s I was getting.  Also the majority of that music is about the vaxx not kikes and their pets.  Shows you where the priorities are.

>It seems like ever since I brought up the VAERs data you've been on the defensive...
Oh it's YOU the dude who tossed a government website at me with no tables or context and thought that would convince anyone of anything.  I don't why you would expect anyone to take that as gospel.  You don't have evidence for your claims and you are upset I called you out on it.  Even one of your fellow antivaxx dudes called you a schizo.
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>>13960
Good, You're paying attention....
Well since you're still afraid of the VAERS data, and you refuse to do anything else with your life, I have another question for you.

If vaccines work and they're keeping niggers alive why do you support them?
>>13961
>Well since you're still afraid of the VAERS data
You're welcome to post the tables you want me to see at any time.
>If vaccines work and they're keeping niggers alive why do you support them?
This is a retarded line of reasoning.  Penicillin works and it keeps niggers alive.  I don't think anyone would be against Penicillin.  Although I certainly don't want to pay for niggers' healthcare.
>>13962
>You're welcome to post the tables you want me to see at any time.
You're welcome to make them yourself since it's so important to you
>>13963
You want me to see what you are talking about then post them...  anons, are you also getting 504 errors when you use the website?
>>13964
>You want me to see what you are talking about then post them
I've already made it clear that I just want you to keep replying to me forever
>>13965
I mean you know and I know that you aren't going to read whatever graph you post and I'm going to find a problem with it and then you will deny the problem exists and we will get in another large argument.  You can post your data and still get (you)s
>>13966
It's not my data, it's a government database with serious legal repercussions for submitting false data. 
And yes I know that's why you're afraid to investigate it yourself and need someone else to hold your hand so you can cherry pick in any way possible. 
When are you getting your next booster?
>>13770
>You consider a .1 drop in fertility over the course of 4 years to be significant, why?
Are you pretending you didn't understand what I wrote or imagining other people didn't.

And yes, when fertility is that low in the first place 0.1 is a significant change.  If you don't understand this your ignorance of mathematics and how human reproduction happens is large. Most likely however you're a shill because surely even a Yank can't be as stupid as you pretend to be.

Low fertility countries aren't actually the problem, which is the problem.
>>13967
>It's not my data, it's a government database with serious legal repercussions for submitting false data. 
I don't think anyone will be prosecuted for honest mistakes.

>And yes I know that's why you're afraid to investigate it yourself and need someone else to hold your hand so you can cherry pick in any way possible. 
You're afraid of being proven wrong that's why you won't provide anything.
>When are you getting your next booster?
We've been over that.  After 5.55 billion people drop dead.
>>13968
>And yes, when fertility is that low in the first place 0.1 is a significant change.
Compared to the trend that was ongoing before the vaxx?  Did you even look at the data I sent?
>>13969
>You're afraid of being proven wrong that's why you won't provide anything.
That's why you refuse to look what I provided, right?
>>13971
I tried dude I got 504 errors and I'm on a phone good luck with CSV files on a phone.  You have something you want to show me then show me.
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>>13972
> You have something you want to show me then show me.
I've already depicted you as the cringe wojak...
I'm afraid there's no damage left to be dealt....
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>>13973
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>>13942
>Let's be real.. spike proteins do what , in your opinion
The purpose of spike proteins in a virus are to help the virus enter the cell.  I think the spike proteins help train the immune system and the side effects are from over reactions in sensitive individuals.  I don't think this is something that is going to lie dormant for years or even generations and then cause serious problems.

Sorry I didn't answer that bit earlier.
>>13792
>You understand the bioweapon stockpiles from the Cold War would have killed you pretty quick.

This is more BS. The reasons bioweapons haven't been deployed since they used to throw corpses into besieged cities is because bioweapons are difficult to disperse and unpredictable in their effects. In a war scenario where public health measures are largely absent they would have greater effect but at that point what would be the point.

The coof bioweapon was interesting in that it's clearly a binary agent. The coof plus the vax is the bioweapon. But, to reprise my previous, the point of it isn't to stack corpses and it having that effect would be hugely counterproductive, which is why they're careful to ignore adverse effects.

The point of the coof was to reduce fertility across the globe particularly in low income, low IQ regions with high fertility. The effects in places where fertility is low already will be small and hard to see. The effects in places where fertility is high will likely be disappointing because the very populations that most need to be reduced in fertility have the least access to healthcare. In the case of many places previously targeted for vaccination campaigns there's a lot of vaccine hesitancy already, e.g.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39664158/
These high fertility populations may be low IQ but they can still put two and two together, having been heavily targeted for medical intervention they've seen the actual results.

Their ambitions weren't that great either, if you listen to Bill Gates the idea is to slow the rate of increase rather achieve an actual reduction in population. This is because the rate of increase is so enormous it's difficult to see how an actual decrease in population could be achieved in the current circumstances of the growth rates of the high fertility countries.

Far more effective, in my opinon, would be food shortages. That used to be the mechanism used by ((( the powers that be ))). But famines were a bad look given they call into question the competency of management.

At some point though if population growth isn't gotten under control somehow there will be famines and mass death and cannibalism.
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>>13647
Yes
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>>13609
>DIVOC
>>13970
>Compared to the trend that was ongoing before the vaxx?  Did you even look at the data I sent?

That's retarded on two levels. One is trends are imaginary and irrelevant when the data comes in. You would not expect fertility to continue to decline to absolute zero in the real world whatever the trend looked like previously unless it was obvious something was killing that population. Secondly the effect of coof would be negligible on a population where fertility was already negligible, this should be obvious to even a retard. In high fertility countries even forced sterilization campaigns show little effect. If you model this purely as numbers it's easy to see why. By modeling it as numbers I mean purely as abstract, it's a question of quantities and quantitative changes.

As I said you're either dumb or you're attempting to deliberately mislead.
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>>13976
Just someone with a good bullshit detector.

>At some point though if population growth isn't gotten under control somehow there will be famines and mass death and cannibalism.

Why would they need vaccines for any of that?  Feminism has been more effective at curtailment birthrates than any vaccine could hope to be.

>One is trends are imaginary and irrelevant when the data comes in. 
Pic related.

>You would not expect fertility to continue to decline to absolute zero in the real world whatever the trend looked like previously unless it was obvious something was killing that population. 
Why?  We see it in South Korea and something is killing the population there.  It ain't the vaxx.

>Secondly the effect of coof would be negligible on a population where fertility was already negligible, this should be obvious to even a retard. 
If the goal was to reduce fertility then it should be significantly reducing fertility just like the vaccines designed to reduce fertility...
https://www.improvac.com/nz/product-overview.aspx
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-vaccine-can-temporarily-neuter-dogs-for-a-single-year
https://www.improvac.com/nz/faq.aspx
https://sheltermedicine.vetmed.ufl.edu/2021/05/10/breakthrough-in-non-surgical-sterilization-for-cats-and-dogs/

The only one of those that isn't temporary is an adenovirus vector gene therapy that leaves DNA in the cytoplasm.
>>13983
I have every vaxx imaginable.  I collect them infact.  I even went to Russia and China to get sputnik and sinovac.
>>13985
Malone was one of many people working on mRNA and yeah I think he is a grifter at this point.  Dude even has an mRNA vaxx.
>>13987
It makes me someone who likes to piss on your revenge fantasy.  Got any charts or tables to show me?
>>13989
>You keep saying this, and I never even heard of it or thought about it until you started sliding threads.
Oh come on.  You've heard how the antivaxx types talk.  "Vaxxies deserve to die"  "they are all hellbound"  "vaxxies are worse than kikes" clearly there is a revenge fantasy element here.

>We've been over this, you refuse to use the website.
Again 504 errors.  You can show me what ever it is you want to show me.
>>13991
You've really never seen posts like that from antivaxx thread on 4/pol/ or frens/pol/?
>>13993
>>13994
>>13995
I can see you are having a moment.   Deep breaths anon.
>>13997
You know how I know you don't have anything?  Because you posted a link to a predatory journal earlier when I asked you to show vaers stats.  That was the best you had.
>>13982

>Why would they need vaccines for any of that?  Feminism has been more effective at curtailment birthrates than any vaccine could hope to be.

In Afghanistan, really? KEK. That's true in certain parts of the world but the persistently high fertility regions obviously need something different. One size does not fit all, we're not all the same whatever globohomo would like to pretend.
You also then contradict yourself by saying that many vaccines are about fertility reduction.

>>One is trends are imaginary and irrelevant when the data comes in. 
>Pic related.
You're retarded and need to go back to school. Obviously one of those people that believe computer modelling has some relationship to reality rather simply shows what you tell it to show.

>Why?  We see it in South Korea and something is killing the population there.  It ain't the vaxx.
Hilarious. South Korea has plenty of children, if you don't believe me actually go to S.E. Asia and observe the South Koreans with their small children. In any case, this is a multi-prong attack on fertility that's been going for at least centuries so the fact S. Korea falls when other places don't just proves that globohomo is wrong that all humans are interchangeable economic units that can treated identically.

>If the goal was to reduce fertility then it should be significantly reducing fertility just like the vaccines designed to reduce fertility...
>https://www.improvac.com/nz/product-overview.aspx
>https://www.sciencealert.com/new-vaccine-can-temporarily-neuter-dogs-for-a-single-year
>https://www.improvac.com/nz/faq.aspx
>https://sheltermedicine.vetmed.ufl.edu/2021/05/10/breakthrough-in-non-surgical-sterilization-for-cats-and-dogs/

I don't know why you're spamming this stuff, yes the primary purpose of vaccines, including the mRNA shots which are now somehow counted as vaccines, is to reduce fertility. Bill Gates bloviates about this at length every chance he gets.

>The only one of those that isn't temporary is an adenovirus vector gene therapy that leaves DNA in the cytoplasm.
Forget trying to baffle me with word salad I have a BSc in the field, back from the days when holding a degree actually proved something.

I agree with you in that coof isn't about mass death of existing people and no significant die off (because to make a dent on human population growth we really need to be looking at billions) will result as a result of the coof plus vax. It also appears it's pretty disappointing at having much of an effect on the high fertility populations that need to be knocked back. ((( They ))) made a ton of money though so it wasn't a loss from ((( their ))) pov I'm sure.
 >>14000
>In Afghanistan, really?
Afghanistan had a steady decline since the invasion.  The vaxx didn't seem to make a huge difference in the trend.

>Obviously one of those people that believe computer modelling has some relationship to reality rather simply shows what you tell it to show.
I think that trends in data exist and can be used to predict reality.  Go look at the FBI's data and tell me it doesn't accurately predict niggers.

>Hilarious. South Korea has plenty of children,
South Korea has among the lowest fertility rates on earth.  .8
>>14001
Afghanistan 
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=AF
South Korea
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KR
>>14000
>I agree with you in that coof isn't about mass death of existing people and no significant die off
I'm glad we agree on that much, but I think the slight dip in fertility after covid can accurately be explained by more people using dating apps.  Again I think the narrative that "Don't date White women because they are all infertile" is unhelpful and I don't think it is true.
>>14003
Do you have kids?
>>14007
Not yet, but that is the goal once I find someone I can trust.
>>14012
Show bobs and vagene
>>14001
> >>14000
>>In Afghanistan, really?
>Afghanistan had a steady decline since the invasion.  The vaxx didn't seem to make a huge difference in the trend.
Hilarious. The Taliban spun up a functioning health system in a hot minute that has accurate figures and totally isn't made up to be what the IMF and World Bank want to see. And has emancipated women and brought back feminism while they switch from AK to M16.

>>Obviously one of those people that believe computer modelling has some relationship to reality rather simply shows what you tell it to show.
>I think that trends in data exist and can be used to predict reality.  Go look at the FBI's data and tell me it doesn't accurately predict niggers.
Trends in data can by used with caution but ultimately they mean nothing compared to actual empirical observation. We don't need FBI data to tell us about niggers. The FBI figures are scammed in obvious ways, for instance spics classed as White to boost the White crime figures.

>>Hilarious. South Korea has plenty of children,
>South Korea has among the lowest fertility rates on earth.  .8
These numbers are fake. I've been boots on the ground in S.E. Asia and I can tell you it's obvious most of this stuff is made up as propaganda for various nefarious purposes.

For instance, you can take to the bank that India is lowballing its population to claim higher GDP per capita.

I can assure you there's no obvious lack of S. Koreans including families with children if you're in S.E. Asia.

Everyone here, except you apparently, quite rightly laughs at government and other official figures. They are made up propaganda BS. What we can see is the floods of jeets and nafris and sub-saharan sub humans and that there are flips everywhere, and I mean everywhere.

I would only trust trends I see in data I've collected myself. So called scientists make stuff up out of whole cloth all the time, let alone bureaucrats and politicians.

It's blatantly obvious from all sorts of data, like water company figures of water usage, or AE hospital contac figures, that the population of England is way higher than the government admits too - because the "missing" but in fact present population is migrants they don't want to admit to.

I had quite an interesting chat not so long ago with a guy who works for the World Bank building and maintaining data centers. Suffice it to say it's all fake and gay. His cognitive dissonance was moderately hilarious to me but actually he was mostly in touch with reality in the important ways that mattered to his own life. Working for the World Bank sounds like a pretty sweet gig.
>>14016
Can you show me data from a source you trust then?  Preferably the same source that shows South Korea has a higher birthrate.
>>14017

>Can you show me data from a source you trust then?  Preferably the same source that shows South Korea has a higher birthrate.
Hilarious. You are deliberately ignoring the substance of what I write and falling back on the old, "source, peer-reviewed studies" argument by authority mantra. You truly are retarded. Go back to twatter and reddit where you belong.

Autistic Anons and sundry sub clinical psychopaths and sociopaths are not impressed by peer pressure or other peoples opinions. Insights from other autists are the only really useful ones, if nothing else because they see the world the same way without the unnecessary colour of peer pressure.
>>14021

>Maybe YOU should be my valentine?
My wife would kill you. And I mean that literally.
>>14017
Asking for a source should be a bannable offense.  Only redditors pull this shit.
>>14035
The only reasons anyone would ask for a source are:
A.  To try to shut down an argument 
B.  To find the source and shut it down so it can't be used against them in a future argument.  Ever had a great site suddenly disappear?  Now you know why.
>>14037
He needs to get up to date on his mRNA shots and get back to us in five years and ten years.
You know what, shill?  I'll play ball.  You ever heard of the "bitch test" in South American prisons?  In the bitch test you are given the following scenario:  "you are given an umbrella and your brothers are outside in the rain.  What do you do?"  If you answer "I hold the umbrella out and let one of the brothers underneath it with me" you become a prison bitch.  If you answer "I throw the umbrella on the ground and stand in the rain with my brothers" then you are let in because you were willing to suffer with the rest of the gang.  You were not willing to suffer and you failed the bitch test.  I had to sleep in my fucking car and eat out of a god damn trash can because of vaxxies while you couldn't be bothered to risk your wage cuck job.  Go fuck yourself you fucking traitor.  I hope you die of VAIDS.
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I just stopped by to check on you OP, are you ok king? Seething over accepting dead babies being injected into your soul. Then losing connection with the source is no reason to shill vaccines. Personally I think you ended up on the wrong board.
>>14190
>Personally I think you ended up on the wrong board.
We should prevent "people" like OP from making that mistake again by banning such "people" on sight.
>>13488
Well you see, red deer was never organic
So arguing against it is effectively strawmanning
There's two things related to the vax saga that are hard to ignore/disprove though
> Excess deaths are statistically very high, especially in younger age groups where it's historically remarkably stable
> By focusing on the adverse effects, you are completely missing the reason why the covid saga was as scary as it was: the vast majority of western world citizen has effectively proven they're complete retards that will blindly follow whatever order comes from who's in control of the narrative
Let's talk about that, instead of the strawman shills built for themselves to argue against
>>14205
>> By focusing on the adverse effects, you are completely missing the reason why the covid saga was as scary as it was: the vast majority of western world citizen has effectively proven they're complete retards that will blindly follow whatever order comes from who's in control of the narrative
>Let's talk about that, instead of the strawman shills built for themselves to argue against

This was the big win for ((( the powers that be ))). Then again, it's always been pretty obvious the majority of people are useless eaters and order followers so really there's little room for surprise. 

The coof debacle takes me dangerously close to being sympathetic to concept of a big cull of useless eaters. Even without believing the vax somehow genetically modified them it's hard to see vaxxies as being fully human.
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>>14242
Maybe Bill Gates is secretly based.  I mean he does want to kill vaxxies after all.  That much has to count for something.
>>14243

>Maybe Bill Gates is secretly based.  I mean he does want to kill vaxxies after all.  That much has to count for something.
Bill Gates should be amongst those culled. I dream of a world safe for the autistic spergs of the chans. Humans are bound to go extinct at some point in time anyway, it's the way of the world.
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>>14242
research shows the longterm affects of the vaxx http://archive.today/YvHaH
The other thing the argument about vax deaths covers up is that the vax didn't actually save anyone - it did nothing to prevent the spread of coof or reduce the severity etc., it is the usual jew hideously expensive taxpayer funded snake oil that in the very best case scenario is mostly harmless for those who took it.
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>>14253
This is zased
>>14253
zased bro lol
Do I notice a bit of zasedposting lads?
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>>14304
if only you knew how zased things really are!
>>14253
Hello ZASED department?!
zased
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>>13999
So i got your VAERS data to work.  Went to section 3 I checked the covid-19 option and hit send.  This is what I found.  No wonder you didn't want to link it.  14932 deaths... 14933 deaths if we throw in the pet which the vaxx also killed somehow.  I knew you had nothing.
>>13488

Not reading that massive thread of retardation but op is obviously correct. There was no mass die off like a lot of us were saying there would be. Does that make the vax safe and effective? Also obviously not. But if the events described in that pic were going to happen from the vax they would have already.
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Petition to move thread to hell. Obvious non issue and a distraction. No reason for it not to make home in /hell

>revenge fantasy

Not gonna make it glownigger cuck.
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>>1274
I like to refer to it as a slave check. It's been quite some time since the last one. We PASSED! We, You and I are still both qualified to be slaves due to the normies out numbering us 10 to 1. If I recall. And oh boy its been a long road. But that might be the first check since the internet was released to the goyim.
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>>1391
It was who had exposure to alternative media versus those who didn't. Wasn't any bigger than that really. You can't realize you're wrong if you live in a bubble. Which was the entire covid narrative...
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I can't believe I'm seeing this thread.
The synagogue of satan never rests, do they?
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