/g/ - Technology

>>958 (OP) 
>What are your favorite tools for android root/hacking/modding?
Whatever let's me gain root and unlock the bootloader so I can install a secure rom.
>Not to mention I've never owned a phone that can use a custom OS 
Why?

>>958 (OP) 
I'm convinced grapheneOS is a glowop

>>969
tor is but we still use it. Pine OS is good but has the issue of shipping overseas where the enemy will tamper with it

You must have a phone where you can take out the battery easily. Basically everything else is fun but nonessential and you should rely on them as little as possible. An enemy can easily bug you and take control of a modern smartphone os

>>971
GrapheneOS is a unique sort of glowop because I can tell torfags "yeah tor is a military project" and they'll agree. If you tell a GOS fag "Graphene is a military project" they lose their fucking minds and swarm around you to protect the OS.

Graphene says they're formally audited and that every audit reported "not even a minor improvement could be made." No audit, in the history of computing, has ever had that result, and they claim it's happened multiple times. If you ask the team for proof, they'll say "audits aren't that important anyway" and refuse to prove it. GOS lead dev is ukranian, they'll insist that he's not and that it doesn't matter anyway. Point to a press release where they claim he's conscripted, they'll stop responding. The team claims to have audited the hardware drivers for the pixels. Point out that those drivers aren't released, they say they looked at the blobs. Point out that blobs don't constitute an audit and they'll tell you it doesn't matter anyway and change the subject.

They're either the biggest midwits in the space or they're a fed project.

>>972
>If you tell a GOS fag "Graphene is a military project" they lose their fucking minds and swarm around you to protect the OS.
Just wait until you realize who created ARPANET aka the Internet.

>>973
I'm aware.

>>972
so glad we have gamers on this site. The privacy guru retards also were shilling iphone as the most secure or something stupid when in reality it's a live cloud upload. 

People have told me graphene doesn't fix like, firmware? level problems when it sends. So it's like using a bugged laptop with a clean OS but obviously the bug is hardware and you can't just get rid of it using just an OS. 

I think people who use smartphones unironically long term are fucking retarded. Feds bug them with public market hacks and they turn into real time beacons, bugs, cameras, and mind readers if you are so stupid as to use the apps and internet access. Dissidents can't be tricked by any of that. The agencies have a double standard where they want their hardware to be secure enough for civvies not to mess with, but for the government to be able to intrude on everybody whenever they want. So yeah tl;dr on premise I agree

>>972
Could be. I like that it doesn't have Google's (or Apple's) niggerlicious software unless you explicitly allow it, and soon it won't have Google's niggerlicious hardware either. It also seems like a more user-friendly product.

>>958 (OP) 
Ironically by obtaining root to your own device, you are breaking AOSP's SELinux security barriers that keep apps siloed.  You will be opening the doors to glowie-infested apps (of whatever stripe) to widely surveil you.  It is ill-advised to actually root.  

Instead either buy an unlocked Pixel for GrapheneOS, or wait for the Motorola GrapheneOS devices.  Do not root it.  Throw your samstung goyaxy or crapple ipwn in the trash, buy a device which [better] respects your sovereignty.  Pixel has been the Android reference device for ages, so it only makes sense that it's the most 'free'/'open' full featured device on the market.

Shills telling you to buy a onepuss, samstung, or whatever other shitbrick they're pushing, and simply root it or install a significantly less secure [than GrapheneOS] image, are either retards who understand not safe secs, or are glowies placing stumbling blocks in front of you.

I hate google too, if you don't want to give them money then pick yours up second hand.

>>969
Glowies are human too, what does the glowie use to not be glowed on himself?

>>971
Glowies needed Tor in order to operate in hostile territories.  If they intentionally designed it to be weak, hostiles could discover them too.

>>972
>>976
omg this thread is full of your kind *facepalm*

>>976
>The agencies have a double standard where they want their hardware to be secure enough for civvies not to mess with, but for the government to be able to intrude on everybody whenever they want. So yeah tl;dr on premise I agree

Let's wargame this...

You're a glownigger.  Your job is to use your glowie goodies to glow on victim civvies.  You eventually clock out for the day... what do you take out of your pocket to use yourself?

GrapheneOS exists for this reason.

>>998
the only conclusion is you use the most reasonably secure piece of hardware available which other normal people would use.  All of these high privacy interventions achieve the exact opposite of the goal they're supposed to be achieving, because you stick out. The herd level of privacy is a vpn + optimized browser. That's the reality, we are living in glass houses and the normal people still think the walls are real. It's actually maddening if you ever talk to people about how bad things have gotten and how clueless the average person is

>why would you need to hide that?
I don't know parent, do you think the government knew your specific choices in women, your specific interests, your voting habits, where you get your news, and what you said last week in private back when you were growing up? The problem comes back to tech illiteracy and the illusion of not being in a panopticon. If people knew that, they would opt for data privacy. That's the real future, and it has to come from the policy level as well otherwise it's just going to be more privacy theatre

>>1001
It also has to do with boomers never seeing the weaponized form of this data and still thinking it's harmless. Big Data is the covid vaccine of 2026, it's the exact same pattern of people blindly opting in when they could opt out and society suffering in consequence for it. But the worse reality is that you are forced to use the internet to interact with the world and get news, think, all sorts of things now. So you can't simply say fuckit, I'm ditching the internet forever. Because you might as well be disconnected from society altogether. It's a dark future until we figure this out collectively

>>1001
Appreciably reasonable reply.  Thank you.

>>1005
it's such a complicated topic. Obviously graphene, tor, qubes + whonix, open source router software, hoping multiple access points, cycling e-personas etc is the answer. That's the logical answer anyone who views the problem for what it is has to conclude, so even a hobbyist will do that if they watch the runes enough. But outliers stick out and achieve the opposite of what they want, and they can't stay for long in the high sec state without drawing attention.

So it probably just comes down to self control, and how you present digitally. What you click, what you say, what you allow yourself to express. It's not the tech, it's you. This applies to offline and online conversation. The high level people just don't click the flags, hardly use the internet if at all, and use very normie software and shroud themselves in a normie cloak of interests to look dumb. Look up what snowy ed did in switzerland digitally, the dude would have come off as a stupid redditard who enjoyed street fighter but he was actually part of the station. 

But if you become that character, the one who plays dumb to keep sweet, I mean you're basically taking the matrix bluepill every day knowingly. So I think anons just have to run the risks sometimes and touch grass later. We live in hell

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>>1005

Come on faggots, we deserve better glownigger shills than this garbage.

>>994
>>1010
I've extensively talked with grapheneOS devs/staff

they lie and misrepresent facts constantly. Words mean nothing to them, except as vessels to push their narrative. 

>GRAPHENEOS IS NOT SECURE
>GRAPHENEOS IS NOT SECURE
Do not treat grapheneOS as if it is secure. It is not. It doesn't represent more than a mild improvement in security over any other android.

Do not use an android phone.
Do not use a graphene phone.
A linux phone is what you want. 
A dumbphone is best.

>>1014
A dumbphone is best. I use graphmeme because the battery life is better than stock, I don't like google, I need something like fagdroid for work and the pixel takes decent photos.

>>1016
Well actually no phone is probably best, but you know what I mean

>>1016
The power of smartphones with internet and apps becomes a liability because an attacker can pretty much click to hack and then use all of them against you