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And then the government starts trying to arrest you, gangstalk you, or insert paid off influencer shills to keep you from speaking or on the plantation.  It's like "democracy" isn't really the underlying model of our form of government, and is merely a descriptive form for the process of manufacturing consent. Y'know? 

Elite figures, when they hear people talking about wanting the right to vote because of human rights and all these other stupid things actually laugh. Because that's not how they interface with politics whatsoever. They have money and they use it to transform society into molding into their desired thought patterns. Voting has nothing to do with it.  You could take away the electoral ballot and they would still be paying for propaganda ops, secret police, bribery and compromise of intermediary figures, and private armies anyways. The concept of your vote having any power is a misnomer designed to continue keeping you in the lie that our system of government reflects popular interests. Actually it doesn't. 

Because the freedom of dissident actors to speak is tightly regulated and controlled, dampened and then channelized into predictable routes where they are segregated from society and unable to actually influence it. Western countries in the information age are simply highly formalized aristocracies where power is competed with among a select number of figures in the ruling class. One which no longer has any connection to popular needs these days anyways.


The answer for average people, of course, is to delgitimize the entire system by pointing this out
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>>13822 (OP) 
yeah most important thing to understand is almost everything you encounter is designed to enslave you and the more visible you are, the more often the enslaving mechanisms will target you. the answer is to build systems outside of the slavery and not be loud about it so that the slavemasters with all their surveilance mechanisms don't hear about it. simple as.
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>>13826
Okay fed. 

Actually the correct answer is to spread the message so vocally that it drives the entire discussion and shifts the paradigm away from the controlled consensus. Direct threats are easily countered unless a large audience exists to drive and support it
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>>13827

don't call me fed, that's an insult, people who work for the government are all rapists in one way or another. i don't need to rape anyone, i'm healthy and good looking and people wanna meet me all the time. i won the social game, i don't need to wear a uniform and order people around and force them to do what my boss told me, i don't have a boss or respect the concept of leadership because it is just another form of slavery. i have something better no government can provide: people just naturally want to please me so working for the government can add nothing to my life.

>Actually the correct answer is to spread the message so vocally that it drives the entire discussion and shifts the paradigm away from the controlled consensus. Direct threats are easily countered unless a large audience exists to drive and support it

i respect your approach and i am glad you are doing it but i have been coincidented and experimented upon too much to be loud. i can barely survive being quiet.
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>>13822 (OP) 
tl:dr
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>>13828
>>13829
were being raided by retards.
>>13831
So be the way of the web
>>13831
they're feds anon.  The shot is trying to get op to stop talking so more people stay as cattle
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>>13831
>wants the site to grow
>but wants to keep discussion feel academic
Yeah, thats not gonna work. Its basic quality/quantity trade off buddy.
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>>13839
I feel like we had it mostly academic. And that works better.
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>>13840
Fixating on "academic" formats is a major flaw too. 
If you can't say things in basic terms you are a retard and should kill yourself
>>13828
Sorry, I do see the logic in your reasoning. As for me, the hostility is because of the government causing me to be unable to distinguish real participants from agitators. Some people can do what you are doing, others take the activist route and burn themselves alive just telling the truth for others to hear it. The digital age doesn't resemble normal political cycles from prior periods of history whatsoever.
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>>13845
He has siad in one message 
 "i have been coincidented and experimented upon too much to be loud. i can barely survive being quiet.".
          Why would anybody read this, and think it is a good idea?
>illegals getting 150k loans for housing or businesses
>people like me get nothing and are told "goy it is okay".
         If others have a lot and I have nothing. then these invaders & traitors all have to die.
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>>13837
>they're feds anon. The shot is trying to get op to stop talking so more people stay as cattle

well it doesn't work. the normies woke up. how does it feel to work in the government building acting like you are "protecting democracy" while in reality merely protecting your cannibal child-raping masters and you are so bad at it that it does not work. so your entire 8 hour day of work as an intenret-censor or internet-soldier is completely in vain and you are unable to defend the honor of your master, meanwhile you hate yourself and get fat and soon the system will collapse so you can't even afford liposuction anymore.

some people do actual work and build roads or collect trash and then there are these retarded internet soldiers who are supposed to make sure their evil masters aren't disrespected AND NOTHING BUT DISRESPECT IS HAPPENING ONLINE. that's failure on their part.
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>>13849
that's an interesting flip. But no, I am not in a gov office
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>>13849
Normies didnt wake up, they just like being victims and seeking justice for virtue signall points. When ever is the sheep independent,  you tell me?
>>13855
Nice try fed. But people can see what a scam it is with their eyes now
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Let me get this straight:
"Democracy" is the system of government where you can only vote the "right way" (and not be punished), if the powers that be know the "progressive side of history" is going to win the elections. Otherwise it's extremely dangerous to our democracy and we should nullify the electoral results because of evil russia, the sexists, da neo nazis (all 100 of them), or the threats to "our" liberal "democratic" values.

Value #1: White people can never hold any power unless it helps a proud woman of color get in front of them
Value #2: Incels are the worst people on the planet and should not be allowed to speak in public (that's terrorism!)
Value #3: You can never, ever, ever, say that you don't agree with our "liberal" values otherwise you are a natzhee and so you can't vooo'te and should be punched
Value #4:  We are always the most "tolerant" (belligerent) and "open minded" (indoctrinated) people imaginable to those who aren't like us, and we can't allow any dissent against that because that's our "liberal" code
Value #5: The courts should overturn anything that ever contradicts this, and should ban all freedom of speech and assembly for anyone who disagrees to save democracy from the racists

Based "Democracy"! Based?
when 2 in 10 think there's no reform possible from within their institutions, that's progress.  When 4 in 10 believe it we're set to win. And we don't even have to fire a shot.

I care not what the other 70% think as long as 30% know it's all a lie and do so passionately. What do the rest do but sit back and watch the iphone tell them what to think, anyways?

Democracy today is nothing but a captured lie serving the interests of elite powerbrokers as they rig the game using their control of the system. How can we trust elections when the winners are picked and chosen? How can we really believe the "vote" represents the public when half the population cannot speak and the other quarter is so powerless their voice means nothing?

Better wake up and quick, anon, because the day we destroy faith in the system is the day we get a better deal. The magic trick of liberal values is nearly over- nobody is looking at the circus performers
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